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Sweet_Bitch

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I'm 26, 5'6", 180 lbs. I gained 50 lbs in about 1 year and am now ready to lose it. I've never had a wieght problem before so I'm not real up to par and how to lose it. My husband is on a cutting cycle right now so I have a partner-which I've read is key. We eat chicken, shrimp, very lean pork and steak. Veggie's-lots of veggie's-and rice. I've cut out soda, juice, and all alcohol with the exception of the occasional glass of wine. I do cardio 4 days a week, 30-40 minutes a day. Not much, but WAY more then I was doing. He also has me taking Clen-although now that I've read some of the posts here, I'm not so sure it's a such a good idea. I know that I need to start lifting, but time is a HUGE issue. Right now I do cardio in the AM becuase I've read that AM is the best time for that. If I lift in the evenings, I can't hit the gym until around 8, due to my work schedule. Is this too late? When would I eat? Before or after? I've been listening to him for too long I think and it's time to get some input and advice from the girls!!!
 
Sweet_Bitch said:
I'm 26, 5'6", 180 lbs. I gained 50 lbs in about 1 year and am now ready to lose it. I've never had a wieght problem before so I'm not real up to par and how to lose it. My husband is on a cutting cycle right now so I have a partner-which I've read is key. We eat chicken, shrimp, very lean pork and steak. Veggie's-lots of veggie's-and rice. I've cut out soda, juice, and all alcohol with the exception of the occasional glass of wine. I do cardio 4 days a week, 30-40 minutes a day. Not much, but WAY more then I was doing. He also has me taking Clen-although now that I've read some of the posts here, I'm not so sure it's a such a good idea. I know that I need to start lifting, but time is a HUGE issue. Right now I do cardio in the AM becuase I've read that AM is the best time for that. If I lift in the evenings, I can't hit the gym until around 8, due to my work schedule. Is this too late? When would I eat? Before or after? I've been listening to him for too long I think and it's time to get some input and advice from the girls!!!
List exactly what you are eating when you are eating it and exactly what you are doing in terms of lifting. Then we can begin to help.
From what I have read so for cut the clen ASAP and don't even think about T3. If you want an extra boast give an ECA a try first a lot milder then clen and wont hinder your progress later on. You MUST start lifting you can't get to where you want to go with out it.
Oh Welcome to Elite :qt:
 
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Eating

Breakfast:
1 Cup Carnation Instant Breakfast shake or cereal

Lunch:
Veggie's, veggie-'s, and more veggie's

Dinner:
6 oz Chicken/Pork/Shrimp/or Steak (Lean)
Veggie's
Carb (typically 1/2 cup of rice)

I can't do most protein shakes-they make me puke. I can eat all the veggie's I can get my hands on all day. Also, that's what I snack on throughout the day.

I'm not lifting at all right now-trying to figure out some kind of schedule-work schedule really restricts what I can do and when.

I know it's not too specific, but it's the best I've got. No soda, no juice, no breads/pasta, no ice cream. (This is the worst!!! LOL)
 
Sweet_Bitch said:
Eating

Breakfast:
1 Cup Carnation Instant Breakfast shake or cereal

Lunch:
Veggie's, veggie-'s, and more veggie's

Dinner:
6 oz Chicken/Pork/Shrimp/or Steak (Lean)
Veggie's
Carb (typically 1/2 cup of rice)

I can't do most protein shakes-they make me puke. I can eat all the veggie's I can get my hands on all day. Also, that's what I snack on throughout the day.

I'm not lifting at all right now-trying to figure out some kind of schedule-work schedule really restricts what I can do and when.

I know it's not too specific, but it's the best I've got. No soda, no juice, no breads/pasta, no ice cream. (This is the worst!!! LOL)
Where is the protien????? You are not eating enough you are starving your self girl! The sticky at the top has a list of diets Daisy recomds and they are alll awsome check that out.
Telll me a little more about the amount of time you have and when try to come up with something workable for you.
 
Sweet_Bitch said:
Eating

Breakfast:
1 Cup Carnation Instant Breakfast shake or cereal --> You need a carb source & a protein here. Like eggs (1 yolk 4-5 whites) & oatmeal + 1 tblsp flax meal or Oatmeal + walnuts + protein powder

Lunch:
Veggie's, veggie-'s, and more veggie's --> this meal should be about 3 hours after breakfast. You need a healthy fat & a protein (~4 oz) in addition to your carb source. If you're not going to be working out in the evening you need another carb here. Insert the brown rice or small sweet potato

Dinner:
6 oz Chicken/Pork/Shrimp/or Steak (Lean)
Veggie's
Carb (typically 1/2 cup of rice) -- Again have this meal 3 hours after lunch. If you won't be working out in the evening, skip the rice & have a large salad with your protein + healthy fat, like olive oil.

Also, 3 meals a day is not enough. You need about 5 small meals per day, spaced 3 hours apart. Also, you need to lift. The increased muscle mass will burn more calories than fat alone will. If you cannot work out at night then lift on the other days per week in the morning that you don't do cardio.


I can't do most protein shakes-they make me puke. I can eat all the veggie's I can get my hands on all day. Also, that's what I snack on throughout the day.

I'm not lifting at all right now-trying to figure out some kind of schedule-work schedule really restricts what I can do and when.

I know it's not too specific, but it's the best I've got. No soda, no juice, no breads/pasta, no ice cream. (This is the worst!!! LOL)

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I'm not hungry though-and that is definetly a change for me!! I gained the weight by over eating-A LOT. This is the same amount that I use to eat, so I'm comfortable with it. But if it's seriously lacking I'll step it up. I just do't know how. Where do I get the protien?

I'll drop the clen, no problem. As for the ECA-my husband use to take those, so I know what they are. But where to get the "E"? And what are proper amounts? Wait...can I ask that on here? If not, I'm sorry...new to this
 
Sweet_Bitch said:
I'm not hungry though-and that is definetly a change for me!! I gained the weight by over eating-A LOT. This is the same amount that I use to eat, so I'm comfortable with it. But if it's seriously lacking I'll step it up. I just do't know how. Where do I get the protien?

I'll drop the clen, no problem. As for the ECA-my husband use to take those, so I know what they are. But where to get the "E"? And what are proper amounts? Wait...can I ask that on here? If not, I'm sorry...new to this

I can't advise you on supplements, as I don't take them..... know nothing about them....

You may want to track your meals via a free web site like www.fitday.com to see what your intake actually is. Also, you can cut 2 oz of protein off your evening meal to have at another meal. Remember, by keeping your body fueled properly, it will have no reason to retain fat.

Also, eating plans vary by person. Try it for 4 weeks & see what the results are. If they aren't to your liking, change it up. But, it's advisable to have a protein, a carb, and a healthy fat at every meal. Your body cannot produce EFA's on it's own -- and your body needs them, so it's up to you to provide them.

It's like your car -- it needs gas, radiator fluid, water in the radiator & oil to run. It's up to you to provide them for your car to run properly. Your body is no different.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Where is the protien????? You are not eating enough you are starving your self girl! The sticky at the top has a list of diets Daisy recomds and they are alll awsome check that out.
Telll me a little more about the amount of time you have and when try to come up with something workable for you.

I work 8:00 to 7:30 four days a week-that's w/ commute. I can handle getting up early for cardio-I'm up anyway. I definetly need one full day off-I'm too new to the scene to go totally hard core. I can easily fit lifting in 3 days a week if I cut one day of cardio and lift at 3 different times. But is this alright?
 
jenscats5 said:

I'm an idiot, really dumb-I'm just going to say that now....

Need examples of "healthy fats and proteins". Also, olive oil? Drink it or can I put it on something...please say the latter:)

I'm sorry-been years since I've been up on all of this.
 
One of the big falacies about dieting is that you have to starve yourself to lose weight. The idea is to provide your body enough (but not too much) fuel at optimal times over the course of the day, and then be active enough to burn it. Generally it is suggested to eat 5-6 small meals over the course of the day. This comes from the idea that proteins, fats & carbs all metabolize with 1-3 hours. After 3 hours your body has used its fuel and may be looking for more.

To run a quick critique of your diet, here are my comments:

Breakfast - I would toss both the Instant Breakfast & the cereal as options. This is primarily processed carb or sugar and little or no protein. Better options are oatmeal, and you can flavor that by mixing in protein mix (so you aren't gagging on a protein mix) or make eggs - like 1 whole egg & 4 egg whites. I keep it simple & just scramble these. You could also throw in some ground turkey or even just a hunk of grilled chicken for protein. Don't think just in terms of "breakfast food". This is what you start your day with after "fasting" for the number of hours since your last meal. It is also a place to put your carbs other than fibrous carbs for the day because your day is starting & you will be actively burning the carbs.

Mid-morning snack - Throw in some almonds maybe here. This is one good source of fat. Here is where we start looking at a small "meal" every 2-3 hours. I don't like being hungry so I don't skip these just because it isn't time for breakfast / lunch / dinner.

Lunch - Veggies is good. Veggies, veggies, veggies is good. Throw some grilled chicken or tuna on top of your veggies and its even better. You can also throw in some good fats here - vinegar & oil for example. A good olive oil or flax seed oil is an excellent source. I'm like you - I can't "drink" flax oil. But mix it in as salad dressing & its great. You might also put 3 oz sweet potatoe here - another good complex carb source.

Mid-afternoon snack - Some brown rice & veggies maybe?

Dinner - Yours looks fine.

Training-wise - You are doing cardio in the morning. Lots of people talk about AM cardio on an empty stomach. I prefer doing cardio first thing on an empty stomach because I usually cramp up if I eat first. But I have to get done early enough before I start getting starving hungry for breakfast. When you start lifting, I don't think its a bad thing to train at 8 pm. I've been in the gym easily that late with my late work days. I would just make sure to give myself enough time before bed to "come down" from the adrenelin kick though. You might also want to throw down a little bit of food after training as well before going to bed. After training is a good time to throw in a little simple carb because you've burned all your glycogen and you can afford to replace some of it. If I get hungry at night, some options have been a tbls of peanut butter (fat source - also will metabolize slower than carbs or proteins so your body has a shorter period of time on "empty" until the next meal in the morning). I also keep cottage cheese around (non-fat) as something to eat if I get hungry. And just to satisfy the munchies, keep sugar-free jello & sugar-free ice pops around. And make sure to give yourself a cheat meal at least once/ week so you dont' get totally bored with the diet and so you can accommodate some social activity without feeling either like you are breaking your diet or that you are having to give up "fun" to stick to your diet.

As far as the clen goes - for the buzz, headache & problems sleeping, I never considered it a good option and the return on it is not all that great. But it depends on the person. There are over the counter thermogenics options that won't give you the crazy buzz. You can check some stuff that is popular among EF'ers at the AF Store (https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/).
 
Sassy69 said:
One of the big falacies about dieting is that you have to starve yourself to lose weight. The idea is to provide your body enough (but not too much) fuel at optimal times over the course of the day, and then be active enough to burn it. Generally it is suggested to eat 5-6 small meals over the course of the day. This comes from the idea that proteins, fats & carbs all metabolize with 1-3 hours. After 3 hours your body has used its fuel and may be looking for more.
Word this has to be the hardest thing a women will ever learn when training. I suggest you really read the above statment carefully cause this the one of the best pieces of advice you will ever recieve on diet.
 
Sassy ... your post is right on target. That is the best advice. You definitely need more protein. And your first meal is SO important. Just cinnamon oatmeal is not enough and too much (not enough protein and too much crap carbs).

Good luck. There are many resources on the board for you to use. You can also do a search. Coming to the point of finding the perfect program for success for yourself takes both time and effort...research research research....and trial and error.
 
Sweet_Bitch said:
I'm an idiot, really dumb-I'm just going to say that now....

Need examples of "healthy fats and proteins". Also, olive oil? Drink it or can I put it on something...please say the latter:)

I'm sorry-been years since I've been up on all of this.

Proteins = chicken breast, turkey breast, ground turkey breast, lean ground beef, lean beef steaks/roasts, tuna, eggs, fresh fish (salmon, tuna, etc), Trader Joe's has salmon & tuna patties reasonably priced

Healthy fats = walnuts, almonds, olive oil, flax oil, avocados, flax meal

I put my healthy fats on/in things....like I mix 1 tblsp of flax meal into my oatmeal, 1 tsp flax oil in my protein shakes, 1 tblsp olive oil on my salads or mixed into my rice/veggie mixtures.....
 
only thing I'd add is that you need to just eat, not "diet".

If you're "dieting" you've deceided to temporarily follow a reduced calorie daily menu, then when you've reached your bodyweight goal your "diet" is over. Then what will you eat? Same stuff you ate before? Almost certainly. Guess what will happen then?

In order to permanently reduce and maintain a lower bodyfat level you need to create a daily menu you can live with. A maintenance diet will allow you more calories than a fatloss diet, but it mustl have fewer calories than your pre-fatloss diet in order to keep you leaner.
 
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