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Jeff_rys

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my package was seized because IP mentionned "Melatonine" on the documents. Melatonine is forbidden in Belgium.
He always tells everybody: "don't tell us what to do, how to pack, how to sent", so i feel that when things go wrong it is HIS fault.

He will never sell GH again, it is off the list. I loose about $1150 since he only wants to refund his profit, which is about $150.

So, remember ordering from China is on your own risk, i just found out.

I will put this on all the boards where it is possible. The only way to stop me is to BAN me off the board.
 
I have been exiled long enough. This post only goes to show u that I WAS RIGHT. IP conducts business in a very unrpofessional manner. To hell with this bastard. I demand reinstatement into Triedia.
 
How many fuckin times have I said this. There are plenty of other guys who are WAY more profesional then him and who's main goals are to please the customers. He gets pissed off at the drop of a fuckin pin. It's not worth it, he's not the fuckin pope so don't you guys try to dis-agree with me cause what I just said is the truth.

M18
 
Iam vindicated. I want an apology for being CRUCIFIED in my attempt to educate others on the dangers from ordering with that asshole.
 
Re: Well Mustang, until this week everything was ok

Jeff_rys said:
so, everyone here on EF was right afterall:(
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I hate to say it but we were..YThere are many people who order from him and thats fine but if you say the wrong thing your fucked weather he has your money or not. It's happend before and it WILL happen many more times to come

M18
 
ip is a dickhead !

I tried to deal with that fucker for the first time and he would only send my package Fed-ex (signature required) I asked him to send it regular mail because the chances are better. He told me to grow and come back to him in a few years. Fuck that dick, I am 28 YO. His products suck and I don't know why he gets so much hype. this guy is an asshole and VERY unprofessional. I be damned if I ever order his shit products from him or a reseller ever again. Fuck that bastard. after his sales go way down then he will maybe grow up and run his business like an adult.
 
SJ, calm down with the postson this guy, you have said your piece and we all know how you feel so leave it at that. Thank you

M18
 
guys i just want say i agree with u....i've been on his anavar for 3.5 weeks and still not a bit of strength gain!!!!!!!! its fake i know it is.... sad part is i ordered clomid as well..hope it works!! i thought his var was the best
 
Jeff - sorry to hear this happened to you. You have been around quite a long time and you have a very good insight on many subjects. You and M18 have just convinced me of what my opinion of IP is.

Why is Triedia so intent on protecting him?
 
I have ordered from IP several times, each time I sent him one Email with the info he asked for, and in less than two weeks I got my package. His prices are unbeliveable, and you better believe that if he wasn't around with his low prices everyone would be charging a lot more for stuff like anavar, dbol, etc. In my opinion hes one of the best, you know his stuff is legit and you know hes not going to scam you.
 
Not trying to stir up a big pot of shit but, YOU are the one that ordered from him, but now he is "bathtub boy"...Did you think that before your pakaged got siezed ? I'm not saying that you being mad is wrong, because I would be, but I think the accusations of his gear being made in bathtubs is complete bullshit...There is no proof of this....
 
muscleup said:
Not trying to stir up a big pot of shit but, YOU are the one that ordered from him, but now he is "bathtub boy"...Did you think that before your pakaged got siezed ? I'm not saying that you being mad is wrong, because I would be, but I think the accusations of his gear being made in bathtubs is complete bullshit...There is no proof of this....
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No there's no proof of that but its funny to picture some little Chinese guy mixing up chemicals in his bathtub with a wooden spoon. :D
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
How many fuckin times have I said this. There are plenty of other guys who are WAY more profesional then him and who's main goals are to please the customers. He gets pissed off at the drop of a fuckin pin. It's not worth it, he's not the fuckin pope so don't you guys try to dis-agree with me cause what I just said is the truth.

M18
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Exactly, I may have missed something in the past, but there are oter guys that can basically get the same shit and dont act like a fuking cocksucker about it, and not to mention have a better reputation for getting shit here in a resonable amount of time.

????????????????:confused:
 
genarr3 said:
"NO GEAR FOR YOU! - COME BACK IN ONE YEAR!" ~ gear nazi
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BWWAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAAA

IP is always polite and cordial...see my sig for proof. :D

I will admit he does help in driving down prices!
 


Why is Triedia so intent on protecting him? [/B]
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I dont know what gave you that impression. If it is because of SynergyJim being banned, then you might want to take a look at this thread a little harder bro. See how every other fucking post in this Thread is some annoying little cartoon that Jim makes so that the people he told 3 seconds ago how much he hates IP, can see it again in case they allready forgot??? Well, that is exactly how he conducted himself at Triedia, only it wasnt every other POST in a Thread, but rather EVERY OTHER THREAD that was him fucking rambling like this. So he was banned because of THAT...NOT because Triedia protects IP. I guess the Mods just figured that they would like to have some room on the board for someone else to post something usefull, rather than have SynergyJim taking up every ounce of fucking Bandwidth with his posts ya know?!?! Ill be the first guy to tell you that the only way I will EVER order his products is through "other means", if you get my meaning. NEVER through him directly. Who needs to be treated like that. And BY THE WAY..."Lift or Die"...He aint Chinese.
 
Lift or Die said:
And besides that, he cooks that shit up in his bathtub. :D
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That, and the fact that his packaging is so bad he might as well package the shit loosely in a pringles can, has been my reason for not wanting to touch his shit... EVER... I'm glad people are finally starting to see the light on this fucking bathtub gear mix master.... damn..

YUM
 
There is so much contorversy that I will stay away from the man too. Like Stang said I will go with people with a proven track record for fast service, top quality packaging and customer service.
 
JunkYardDogg24 said:
There is so much contorversy that I will stay away from the man too. Like Stang said I will go with people with a proven track record for fast service, top quality packaging and customer service.
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Customer service the most important!
 
I'm sorry you guys feel that way toward his products but I have nothing but positive things to say. I put my friend on a dbol+winny cycle he gained about 15lbs. Myself I will start a cyp+eq+dbol very soon and will let you know of my results.
 
Me and my bros have had nothing but pleasant experiences with the man. Between us theirs been a few dozen orders, longest turnaround 12 days. Had our first pack seized just recently and we had heard the horror stories but in our experience those stories are full of crap. We gave the man the info he needed and he's doing a full resend on a large order.

The man is efficient, reliable and cheap, what else can you ask for in a source really. Some guys may be better talkers but ultimately whats important??? That you get good stuff, cheap and quickly or that you get someone who gives you that warm fuzzy feeling after reading his overly priced price list ?

We've been around the game for a while and have seen many golden guys that turned out to be not so golden, many sure things that missed, this guys not dodged people, he's always been there and the bottom line is people get results from his stuff. So if you don't like the way he does biz then use his resellers so you don't have to deal with him but all in all in our experiences the mans been nothing short of great. If you don't like his products or dont trust them then its by all means its your choice to believe what you want but the sheer volume that he does goes to show that people like his products and that his business practices while not as some would wish are good enough to warrant all the repeat customers. So he must be doing something right.


WBB
 
Originally posted by Pennywise but edited by M18


Don't post sources names on this board dumb ass!!! Think before you open your fuckin mouth. Strike one!! :mad:

M18
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Then why allow this name to be posted freely. You cannot bend the rules to your liking. Either enforce all the rules equally and act like a mod, or let someone else do your work for you. That is a real nice attitude you have there bub.
 
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Pennywise said:
Then why allow this name to be posted freely. You cannot bend the rules to your liking. Either enforce all the rules equally and act like a mod, or let someone else do your work for you. That is a real nice attitude you have there bub.
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** is a brand as well as the name of a source but it has been used so freely around the boards that it is common nature. You openly named a source which is not allowed. Next time think! I don;'t have an attitude at all and I always act like a mod and enforce the rules so who the hell are you to tell me I am doing otherwise ?

M18
 
i don't get it?

RdStrcklnd said:
I have ordered from IP several times, each time I sent him one Email with the info he asked for, and in less than two weeks I got my package. His prices are unbeliveable, and you better believe that if he wasn't around with his low prices everyone would be charging a lot more for stuff like anavar, dbol, etc. In my opinion hes one of the best, you know his stuff is legit and you know hes not going to scam you.
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So what he is doing to me is NORMAL?????
 
i don't know if they protect him

Anal AssPlorer said:
Jeff - sorry to hear this happened to you. You have been around quite a long time and you have a very good insight on many subjects. You and M18 have just convinced me of what my opinion of IP is.

Why is Triedia so intent on protecting him?
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i am not saying his goods are good or bad, that's up to the person to make up his mind.

No way i would have wasted $1350 if i had know, that he would NOT resend when seized. Furthermore, he decided to put "Melatonine" on the package, not me. He did this the first time as well, with a small order and it came through. But still if he would have mentionned Ginseng or Thee it would have passed, simple as that.
 
MUSTANG_18 said:


** is a brand as well as the name of a source but it has been used so freely around the boards that it is common nature. You openly named a source which is not allowed. Next time think! I don;'t have an attitude at all and I always act like a mod and enforce the rules so who the hell are you to tell me I am doing otherwise ?

M18
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It is a generic product not a brand name. I don't know what you consider a source, but someone who makes it and deals it sure as hell sounds like a source to me. And I am telling you you are doing otherwise, because you are. Enforcing something some of the times, when it suits you, is not very kosher.
 
Pennywise said:

Enforcing something some of the times, when it suits you, is not very kosher.
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Please explain how me doing this woul suit me ? I am not a source nor do I back either sources in question on this thread so I would like to know how ? ** is mentioned in just about every 2 thread on this board but the other one was not...You can't think you were right in posting a legit sources name openly to try and prove a point and if you feel you did nothing wrong then I feel very sorry for you

M18
 
i am leaving in 1 hour for France

but will stop in Liege when i return. That's where the package is.
1) i will wait for the customs letter after that, because they will NOT give it to me, but i will give it another try.
2) once i know who will do the analysing, i will ask THEM to give me my package back. Once they tell me what is in it (can well be Melatonine, why not?, i will ask my doc a prescript and give it another try.
3) don't know how the GH (if GH) will react, since it has to be in the fridge and is not.

So i will inform everybody here. Those still wanting to order from the Chinaman, should have their head examinated.
 
sorry SynergyJim

I would have to disagree and say that he is a very unprofessional asshole.
 
MUSTANG_18 said:


if you feel you did nothing wrong then I feel very sorry for you

M18
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As I feel the same sorrow for you because you think you are right. Just because his name is in every other thread proves to me that the mods only enforce the rules when they feel like it. Or when they don't like a particular person. A source is a source, and each should be treated the same. There is absolutely no reason one person should be listed openly all the time, especially when there is supposedly no open source posting.
 
Pennywise said:
As I feel the same sorrow for you because you think you are right. Just because his name is in every other thread proves to me that the mods only enforce the rules when they feel like it. Or when they don't like a particular person. A source is a source, and each should be treated the same. There is absolutely no reason one person should be listed openly all the time, especially when there is supposedly no open source posting.
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I see your point BUT since I have not been told to delete anything naming ** openly unless it is a direct e-mail I see no reason to start now. As for you you named, that is the name of a source who as far as I know is very legit and I have been told to delete all threads or posts openly naming source. Why ** is not included in that list, don't ask me but I am doing my job

M18
 
MUSTANG_18 said:

I see your point BUT since I have not been told to delete anything naming ** openly unless it is a direct e-mail I see no reason to start now. As for you you named, that is the name of a source who as far as I know is very legit and I have been told to delete all threads or posts openly naming source. Why ** is not included in that list, don't ask me but I am doing my job

M18
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I understand where you are coming from, but that is no reason to jump down someone's throat when they are trying to make a point. Maybe the mods should ask why one source is allowed to be named, mostly in defamation, and not any others. I also don't think you have to wait for the order to delete mention of his name, as you did not wait to do so for the guy I mentioned, who by the way is a ripoff.
 
Pennywise said:
I understand where you are coming from, but that is no reason to jump down someone's throat when they are trying to make a point. Maybe the mods should ask why one source is allowed to be named, mostly in defamation, and not any others. I also don't think you have to wait for the order to delete mention of his name, as you did not wait to do so for the guy I mentioned, who by the way is a ripoff.
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He may be a ripoff but he's still legit. I didn't jump down anyones throat I just stated a fact.

M18
 
MUSTANG_18 said:


He may be a ripoff but he's still legit. I didn't jump down anyones throat I just stated a fact.

M18
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No, you told me to "shut your fucking mouth." That is not a polite way of telling someone to not post something.
 
Order from the G man, he now has operations here in the US and he is very polite and nice to his customers. He ships as fast as he can and the stuff he sells is pretty good brazillian stuff. I trust a place like that more than a communist country with all fucked up laws and stuff.
 
Pennywise said:
No, you told me to "shut your fucking mouth." That is not a polite way of telling someone to not post something.
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I don't remember saying that but if I did then I am sorry as I have had a couple very rough months but I still stand behind my opinion of him.

M18
 
Pennywise said:
No, you told me to "shut your fucking mouth." That is not a polite way of telling someone to not post something.
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No more picking on Mustang, or else you'll have me to
deal with..... capische?

Good. :)

Fonz
 
This is funny. What happened to all those people that have placed several posts previously saying that they have had great results from **'s stuff? Are we confusing professionalism (or lack of it) with effetiveness of his gear?
 
This is Bullshit!!!!!!!!!

you know not for nothing but isn't there alot of ** bashing going on?
The guy has been in business for a while now and his gear is very good and not only that but i have only been cycling his gear for some time now and i've never had a problem.
So please unless you have experience with his gear then don't bash it.....
Liftin' large........
 
i only order from one ** remailer in the us, never delt with the man himself, i like the orals, and the injects make me grow fast, 13 lbs in 10 days right now on cyp and eq, BUT i will never use the injects again for my ass and delts have been swollen and in major pain since the start of the cycle 10 days ago!!!!!!i have never had theese gains NOR THIS MUCH PAIN!!!!
 
Iceman, i've personaly never had a problem with him.
As long as people treat him with respect he does it in return...
You know i had my gear lost in the mail once during the trade center disaster and after waiting 8 weeks he ended up resending my order again..
With no questions asked...
Liftin' large
 
IP's an asshole. He used to beat me up and steal my lunch money and wipe boogers in my hair in elementary school.
 
have you ever noticed that when someone shares critisism about certain products.....that mysteriuosly, alot of under 500 posters come and chime in saying how great the stuff is, and how critics are full of donkey balls????


hmmmm?

<hand on chin>


most of the those under 500 poster, sometimes have only 20 -40 threads to their name......

like in this thread.;)
 
Well I have more than 20-30 post, I think his gear is legit in most cases,,,now you can get a bad batch here and there, but That happens with any gear.
 
OMEGA said:
have you ever noticed that when someone shares critisism about certain products.....that mysteriuosly, alot of under 500 posters come and chime in saying how great the stuff is, and how critics are full of donkey balls????


hmmmm?

<hand on chin>


most of the those under 500 poster, sometimes have only 20 -40 threads to their name......

like in this thread.;)
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The amount of threads someone has should not matter ..
Experiance is what matters.
And i have some with ** gear.
I've tried the European gear and i get the same results..
So why not go with what works,I get a great price which means i can do a longer cycle or add more gear to a cycle.
His prices are VERY GOOD and i don't think anybody can beat them..
Listen go with what works for you.
The only thing i don't like is the bashing of**
Liftin'Large......
 
Omega,

Has it ever occured to you that maybe just maybe that there are knowledgable bros that don't have post counts into the multiple thousands here at elite?

I could site examples of bros with little or no knowledge who have racked up considerable posts. Post counts indicate who has the most free time not the people with the most credibility or knoweldge. In some cases, huck, e2, it is the case of the bro being credible and knowledgable and posting alot (well e2 back in the day) but there's few bros like these guys.

There is a world outside the elite boards so don't be so quick to dismiss an opinion cause its from someone with a post count under a 100 cause he may be a vet from other boards or just simply have some input that is relevant.


WBB
 
OMEGA said:
have you ever noticed that when someone shares critisism about certain products.....that mysteriuosly, alot of under 500 posters come and chime in saying how great the stuff is, and how critics are full of donkey balls????
hmmmm?
hand on chin>
most of the those under 500 poster, sometimes have only 20 -40 threads to their name......
like in this thread.;)
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Well, I have over 500 posts and like his products and so do many guys I know. As for the man himself I can't say because I've never orderd from him and always get it throgh someone else. I've seen alot of post that people complain of his packaging so I just stick with the guy I know has good packaging and service.
 
WBB said:
Omega,

Has it ever occured to you that maybe just maybe that there are knowledgable bros that don't have post counts into the multiple thousands here at elite?

I could site examples of bros with little or no knowledge who have racked up considerable posts. Post counts indicate who has the most free time not the people with the most credibility or knoweldge. In some cases, huck, e2, it is the case of the bro being credible and knowledgable and posting alot (well e2 back in the day) but there's few bros like these guys.

There is a world outside the elite boards so don't be so quick to dismiss an opinion cause its from someone with a post count under a 100 cause he may be a vet from other boards or just simply have some input that is relevant.


WBB
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you know you are very right, and I am sorry to have generalized .

but as for personal obeservation, I can honestly say that mutliple people that I know in person have been very unhappy.

some get sick, some get nothing, some maybe gain 5 pounds..........last time I checked.....

juice was suppost to make you feel good, and not make your body sore.......sure an initial flew or something, but not perpetual lethargy, and wondering if your going to get sick with one batch or the other.

now that being said...I am just sharing, and not saying that you are wrong.....or any other supporters.

take my opine however you like it.
 
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well today i went to customs to try to convince them

to give me my gear back.

They have sent 2 vials of 4U.I. for analysing, as was decided last week.
I had to make a declaration. As soon as analysed they will sent me a letter how it will go further.

Another strange thing. I ordered AND PAYED for 100 4 U.I. GH and 30 Sustanon Karachi ($1200 + $100 for the Karachis).

Customs let me see the open package, how it was sent, but there are NO Karachis inside. Only the 100 vials of GH, less the 2 that where sent to the lab.
I had to make a declaration and sign the paper only for the vials, no Sust. So where they sent??????

I still am trying to get my gear back, but as soon as they know what is in it....well i have one change on a thousand.....
 
Hey Jeff, are you willing to take the risk to spend some time in jail? If you tried to get it back. I can understand that you want it back but isnt it illegal in Belgium bro?
 
no, they will not put me in jail, BUT

if they do not release it, autorities will book me (i will have to pay a serious amount of money). Also i will have to sign a paper that they may have the stuff, so they can destroy it. If i do not sign, i will have to answer the judge in tribunal.....

I will see how far i can push it without having more trouble.

My god, the stuff was there before my nose and i could not take it with me.....
 
Junior Mint said:


OOOOOHH! Stop scaring people with your coolness, FONZ.
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LOL.....you need a life pal...... :) :) :)

Jeff.....you should have placed your order with a european guy.
China is just not well liked in the EU.
GH is just not a drug you want to have seized b/c
it is relatively expensive.
As for the Sust not arriving, he probably(IP) sent it in another
package. It would be illogical not to.

Fonz
 
yes, Fonz he told me so by email

but i didn't know he was sending it from another country.
As for the GH, well i learned my lesson.
In EU Gh is more expensive then the Chinese one. I hate to admit it (given the circumstances), but i liked the result of his GH.
 
Mustang is 100% correct. There are too many other sources out there who you can trust and who sell legit shit. Not bathtub scum.
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
SJ, calm down with the postson this guy, you have said your piece and we all know how you feel so leave it at that. Thank you

M18
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I agree and I hate to say this but you would have to be crazy to order from him as look at how his name is thrown around.
Don't you think sooner or later he will go down.
I am on several other boards and he is all over all of them !!!!

I say stick to domestic for safety ?!?!?
Just my thoughts...


WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE #1
2 IS NOT A WINNER AND
3 NOBODY REMEMBERS !!!
 
Re: mine was seized and resent

Stivard said:
I just had my gear seized from him and he resent it
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maybe he likes you better then me, or maybe:

1) he gains more on the products you ordered from him
2) you didn't order for $1300, so it is a "less pain in the ass".
3) he resent some packages for his "good" name.
 
You NO likey Eyepees service? Huh Joe?

Me send wight away..ok?;)

pffffffffffftttttttttttttttttt~~~~~~~~~
 
Jeff, I Believe It

Jeff, I recall sending the guy a rather detailed email, telling him who I am and who referred me to him and for what reasons, etc.

What I got back in reply was a shock. Others have commented on him as "The Soup Nazi" from Seinfeld (NO GEAR FOR YOU). Sheesh, what an attitude problem. It wasn't directly offensive, but it's like the guy didn't read...and what he sent was gibberish.

It's a general issue I have with people who claim to be sources but who can't communicate effectively in English (or of gear, in English) and whose business conduct and ethics reflect, well, the shithole in which they live. They're not sources, because sources are consultants also; they're just gear-sellers who only give a damn about money - as much and as soon as possible.

Dexter
 
Uh...

Am I missing something here, gotmilk? As I read, the topic was IP and Jeff's experience with IP. Kindly clarify, if not on this thread then via email to me.

Dexter
 
Dex...I was mocking that idiot IP. I take it you've never had the pleasure of dealing with his crap?
 
Jeff,

Are you sure it is worth continuing to push this and perhaps have deeper trouble forth coming? Why not just drop it with customs before it goes too far and you wind up in serious trouble?
 
gotmilk, thanks for the clarification. No, I never used any of his stuff. I only heard comments which got me curious, so I emailed him.

I guess I can now understand what you said, based on the practically unintelligible reply I got from him. Why deal with a jerk? Maybe he's just a paranoid meglomaniac, like others I've known; seems to be, judging from his email.

Dexter
 
well maybe yes

Anal AssPlorer said:
Jeff,

Are you sure it is worth continuing to push this and perhaps have deeper trouble forth coming? Why not just drop it with customs before it goes too far and you wind up in serious trouble?
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Anyway i went overthere, they took my statement. I was lying of course and that could be the part they will not like. What else could i say that it was. Afterall it was declared as Melatonine.
If they for this and eventually drugs like heroine they will not find what is in it. That could be a reason they will not release it. So, in the long run i will have to say that it is GH. I can get a prescript from my doc, at least in a normal situation. I asked them if having a script made any difference. They answered "NO".
I will go as far as i can, but will not go to court. I probably loose another $500 or $600 and cannot win. The judge will not say that i am right and Narcotics was wrong. Afterall they where doing there job.
Today on Trieda IP offered me $150 which was his profit on the deal. So if the Sust comes through, i loose $1050 and some dollars i spent on Moneygram ($50).
When i have contact with Narcotics again, i will ask them specific if the package was seized because it was sent express or because Melatonine was mentionned on it.
 
Good luck bro. I wish you the best. Please let us know what happens.
 
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