Second cycle, 8 weeks in, advice please

[eatsleeplift]

Whats up guys, and gals.. before I jump into the question, heres my stats

Age 24
Height 6'3"
Weight 193
Week 1-12 Test prop 150mg EOD
Week 1-8 Test 400- 100mg/week, stopped because I ran out, and hated the pip
PCT Clomid and Adex 3 days after last pin.

Heres where my question comes in--

Week 9-12 Tren A 125mg/EOD

Is this too much, too little, or will i be fine?


Ive not had any sides at all this entire cylce.. which is very odd to me. I began the cycle at 171.7 lbs and just weighed in at 193, so Im absolutely happy with my gains. A lot i think is due to my diet, and I drink a gallon of milk a day (GOMAD) and let me tell you.. amazing way to add weight for all you skinny guys! Lift, eat and drink a hell of a lot of milk!

My question is mainly about the tren a, ive had friends use it and swear its gods gift to man. I think personally it would be a great end to my cycle to get me up to 200, Im not trying to cut or bulk with it because im so tall, i even out fairly well. I just want to make sure I am not overdoing it with the 125mg eod and if not could i do it ED for the last 4 weeks?

 

[kc17]

Whats up guys, and gals.. before I jump into the question, heres my stats

Age 24
Height 6'3"
Weight 193
Week 1-12 Test prop 150mg EOD
Week 1-8 Test 400- 100mg/week, stopped because I ran out, and hated the pip
PCT Clomid and Adex 3 days after last pin.

Heres where my question comes in--

Week 9-12 Tren A 125mg/EOD

Is this too much, too little, or will i be fine?


Ive not had any sides at all this entire cylce.. which is very odd to me. I began the cycle at 171.7 lbs and just weighed in at 193, so Im absolutely happy with my gains. A lot i think is due to my diet, and I drink a gallon of milk a day (GOMAD) and let me tell you.. amazing way to add weight for all you skinny guys! Lift, eat and drink a hell of a lot of milk!

My question is mainly about the tren a, ive had friends use it and swear its gods gift to man. I think personally it would be a great end to my cycle to get me up to 200, Im not trying to cut or bulk with it because im so tall, i even out fairly well. I just want to make sure I am not overdoing it with the 125mg eod and if not could i do it ED for the last 4 weeks?

If you decide to run tren a 100mg eod is enough .good luck is the sides get too bad just drop it.

 

[eatsleeplift]

I appreciate the quick response KC

Would it be detrimental to run it ED?

I've only run test before, and know how it affects me through and through. With tren a, some people run it completely different than the next person and I feel like there is a lot of mixed theories on it.

 

[underattack]

I appreciate the quick response KC

Would it be detrimental to run it ED?

I've only run test before, and know how it affects me through and through. With tren a, some people run it completely different than the next person and I feel like there is a lot of mixed theories on it.

Imo never run tren at the end of your cycle. Atleast not first time. It will prolly shut you down really hard. And thats why i like to have test in my system stleast two weeks arter last pin. Also tren is nothing you should decide on doing that fast. Ita a harsh drug with harsh sides.

With taht said, 100mg eod is a nice place to start. Also make sure u have prolactine control on hand..

 

[rustilldown]

I appreciate the quick response KC

Would it be detrimental to run it ED?

I've only run test before, and know how it affects me through and through. With tren a, some people run it completely different than the next person and I feel like there is a lot of mixed theories on it.

Well I would say 50mgs / day is plenty. But do you have caber? Prami? Anything to help counter the nasty sides that come about. Also at 6'3 you easily could have made those gains natty but since that's a thing of the past now oh well. Personally I wouldn't add tren at all if your happy with your gains and no sides then maybe you should finish up have a nice solid pct and go from there. Adding compounds here and there can sometimes over complicate and be counter productive.. Just some constructive criticism - Mike

 

[rustilldown]

Imo never run tren at the end of your cycle. Atleast not first time. It will prolly shut you down really hard. And thats why i like to have test in my system stleast two weeks arter last pin. Also tren is nothing you should decide on doing that fast. Ita a harsh drug with harsh sides.

With taht said, 100mg eod is a nice place to start. Also make sure u have prolactine control on hand..

^^ what he said just beat me too it!

 

[eatsleeplift]

I appreciate the responses, I dont like when everyone agrees haha this is good, I like hearing everyones ideas.

Being that I havent been thus far very prone to sides in the past on either cycles ive run (test only), do you guys think the tren a sides will be minimal as well? If i decide to go forward with it, i dont know if I want to run Dostinex mainly because it also has a lot of negative sides, and I dont know if i can get my hands on any soon.

What would you recommend that would be less potent than the caper? Obviously running any tren will shut me down, but im 8 weeks in now so im certain im already shut down until my PCT

 

[eatsleeplift]

caber*

 

[-SD-]

At 6'3, any reason why youre not 200 lbs without any drugs?

 

[kc17]

I appreciate the quick response KC

Would it be detrimental to run it ED?

I've only run test before, and know how it affects me through and through. With tren a, some people run it completely different than the next person and I feel like there is a lot of mixed theories on it.

you can run it ed at 50mg but are you down for all that pinning ?

 

[eatsleeplift]

SD Yeah ive always been naturally skinny, runs in the family. Father didnt fill out until late twenties after the military, my older brother is 28, 6'1 and hasnt gotten over 170 his whole life. Must been a shit basket of genetics.

KC- I dont mind the pinning, my girlfriend is a nurse so she does all of them, and with a 25ga needle i never feel it anyways lol

ive decided to go forth with the tren for the next 4 weeks and picking up some provi and will start asap

 

[kc17]

SD Yeah ive always been naturally skinny, runs in the family. Father didnt fill out until late twenties after the military, my older brother is 28, 6'1 and hasnt gotten over 170 his whole life. Must been a shit basket of genetics.

KC- I dont mind the pinning, my girlfriend is a nurse so she does all of them, and with a 25ga needle i never feel it anyways lol

ive decided to go forth with the tren for the next 4 weeks and picking up some provi and will start asap

go for it bro , Im curretly running tren btw pinning eod with prop..

 

[eatsleeplift]

I love the prop, little pip here and there but its great because the sides are minimal compared to longer ester tests IMO. How long have you been running the tren? good results?

 

[TheRippedReverend]

At 6'3, any reason why youre not 200 lbs without any drugs?

My thoughts 100%!!!!

Horrible unresearched cycle not flaming just tellin it how it is.

 

[kc17]

Imo never run tren at the end of your cycle. Atleast not first time. It will prolly shut you down really hard. And thats why i like to have test in my system stleast two weeks arter last pin. Also tren is nothing you should decide on doing that fast. Ita a harsh drug with harsh sides.

With taht said, 100mg eod is a nice place to start. Also make sure u have prolactine control on hand..

tren ace will be out of your system in a few days , there's no need to run test 2 weeks longer .

 

[TheSVPdeal]

My thoughts 100%!!!!

Horrible unresearched cycle not flaming just tellin it how it is.

I agree. Why run test 400 with test prop?

It's also a good idea to run the test past the tren 2-4 weeks. You're going to need some caber or prami also.

Your PCT needs some work too, Man. There are a great number of threads on the subject including a sticky so I won't touch this. If you write out an update, I'm sure you will get guidance. Or keep it as is and log how that works out for you.

You mentioned adex. Are you running it during your cycle or any AI?

You're a young guy and tall. I don't believe in the skinny gene thing. Food makes you bigger. It would've been nice to start at over 200 but whatever.

Good luck. I'll follow along for a bit.

 

[kc17]

SD Yeah ive always been naturally skinny, runs in the family. Father didnt fill out until late twenties after the military, my older brother is 28, 6'1 and hasnt gotten over 170 his whole life. Must been a shit basket of genetics.

KC- I dont mind the pinning, my girlfriend is a nurse so she does all of them, and with a 25ga needle i never feel it anyways lol

ive decided to go forth with the tren for the next 4 weeks and picking up some provi and will start asap

I do agree with some of the guys regarding your food intake,you nee to work on that and theres only one way: eat more basically

 

[underattack]

tren ace will be out of your system in a few days , there's no need to run test 2 weeks longer .

Im not talkig about when it clears your system. Im talking about thw feeling you get when its out. Really rough ride to clear test and tren at same time. You feel better if you run test a few weeks after imo

 

[Iron Warrior707]

You were 6'3 at 171 before cycle, you were way too skinny with no base, and yes the best thing you could come up with is the genetic excuse..

I was 5'8 130lb at 18 years old, now at 23 im 5'9 230 with no roids, still droping fat and gaining muscle.. Admit you were looking for a shortcut with no hard work..
Your diet and training must be shit, keep making genetic excuses why you were skinny..

 

[TheRippedReverend]

I agree. Why run test 400 with test prop?

It's also a good idea to run the test past the tren 2-4 weeks. You're going to need some caber or prami also.

Your PCT needs some work too, Man. There are a great number of threads on the subject including a sticky so I won't touch this. If you write out an update, I'm sure you will get guidance. Or keep it as is and log how that works out for you.

You mentioned adex. Are you running it during your cycle or any AI?

You're a young guy and tall. I don't believe in the skinny gene thing. Food makes you bigger. It would've been nice to start at over 200 but whatever.

Good luck. I'll follow along for a bit.

Took the words out of my mouth I just didnt feel like writing all that.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

You were 6'3 at 171 before cycle, you were way too skinny with no base, and yes the best thing you could come up with is the genetic excuse..

I was 5'8 130lb at 18 years old, now at 23 im 5'9 230 with no roids, still droping fat and gaining muscle.. Admit you were looking for a shortcut with no hard work..
Your diet and training must be shit, keep making genetic excuses why you were skinny..

A little harsh but yeah.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

Took the words out of my mouth I just didnt feel like writing all that.

Teamwork makes the dream work.

 

[the small soldier]

At 6'3, any reason why youre not 200 lbs without any drugs?

my thoughts exactly. at 5'6" I went from 122 pounds to 205 pounds in 6 years

 

[eatsleeplift]

ironwarrior707,

calm down, you sound like you have little man syndrome. First off, I eat like a horse, and I eat the right things, 70% of my gains have solely been because of my diet, I also gained a lot of the weight from a gallon of milk a day on top of my diet. Secondly, I didn't know you knew my genetics doc, but my entire family-entire- is very skinny. If it were just me, I would go with your train of thought, but ive got brothers that are all the same size weight and height and my father who has the same build, I overcame family genetics. You say you haven't touched gear, yet you're actively posting on this site for over a while about anabolics. Thanks for your advice, or lack thereof.

For the rest of you who have been beyond helpful and given honest insight into this post--Thank you for being an adult and giving me constructive criticism, not some douchebag response like ironwarrior, so for that, I appreciate you.

As far as the question/s about the t400- I ran it because I had it, and ran the prop with it because the t400 had little prop in it.

To the ones asking about the tren a, Ive ordered a prolactin control and ill end the cycle at 14 weeks. Im running the test two weeks longer than the tren, so 12-14 will be test only.

I think ive answered majority of the responses, and again, I very much appreciate the veteran responses and insight, way to welcome a brother to the boards!