Scar Tissue!!

[Outtlaw]

What do you guys do about this crap? I swear this is the one major side effect roids have given me all these years. My glutes are shot. My quads are shot. My delts are almost to that point.... I dont know what to do anymore. Tricep injects aren't working like I want them to, and I dont inject chest anymore since my injury. Do you guys just pretend like the scar tissue isnt there and inject anyways?? I need some advice.

 

[DieselGunz]

Isnt it hard to inject into scar tissue?

 

[Outtlaw]

Isnt it hard to inject into scar tissue?

Yes, meaning it's hard to get the needle and liquid in.

 

[ALIN]

i try using the finest gauge pins available that will work and also rotate sites and areas of injection frequent.

 

[marshallmadman]

What gauge of pins are you using?

 

[gymratforlife]

What do you guys do about this crap? I swear this is the one major side effect roids have given me all these years. My glutes are shot. My quads are shot. My delts are almost to that point.... I dont know what to do anymore. Tricep injects aren't working like I want them to, and I dont inject chest anymore since my injury. Do you guys just pretend like the scar tissue isnt there and inject anyways?? I need some advice.

LoL funny you should post this I was just thinking that I shouldnt be shooting in my glutes anymore since the last 2 shots I have taken are still there in each side as knots due to no room for it to go I guess.Hard as hell to put the pin in 2.Then again I have been shooting with 23 gauge pins wich is not the best.Im just wondering if you dont shoot there for a year or so will it ever go back to normal?

 

[Outtlaw]

What gauge of pins are you using?

25g. The worst of my scar tissue (mid quads and glutes) came from when I 1st started juicin and only had access to 21g pinz. But I've been using 25g for yrs now.

It's not so much the gauge that's causing the problems but the amount of injects I have to do in my cycles.

 

[Outtlaw]

i try using the finest gauge pins available that will work and also rotate sites and areas of injection frequent.

I've always done this, but when you're doing ED injects there's not many places left to rotate to.

 

[gymratforlife]

I've always done this, but when you're doing ED injects there's not many places left to rotate to.

This is why I dont fuck with short esters anymore.

 

[Outtlaw]

LoL funny you should post this I was just thinking that I shouldnt be shooting in my glutes anymore since the last 2 shots I have taken are still there in each side as knots due to no room for it to go I guess.Hard as hell to put the pin in 2.Then again I have been shooting with 23 gauge pins wich is not the best.Im just wondering if you dont shoot there for a year or so will it ever go back to normal?

I've noticed that on my time off, the scar tissue seems to dissipate somewhat. But it has never gone away, and it builds right back up fairly quickly once I start injecting again. Im honestly thinking of starting to incorporate more orals in my cycles.

 

[Outtlaw]

This is why I dont fuck with short esters anymore.

At this point, even running long esters I could never get away with once a week injects. Those were the good ol days when I could grow on 250mg/wk of sust. Doesnt work like that anymore for me. If only I could get my gear dosed at 500mg/ml I'd be set.

 

[gymratforlife]

At this point, even running long esters I could never get away with once a week injects. Those were the good ol days when I could grow on 250mg/wk of sust. Doesnt work like that anymore for me. If only I could get my gear dosed at 500mg/ml I'd be set.

Its fairly easy to do if you want to homebrew bro and it comes out really nice.I loved my homebrew Test/Cyp combo it was 200mg of each per ml and smooth as silk.

 

[marshallmadman]

25g. The worst of my scar tissue (mid quads and glutes) came from when I 1st started juicin and only had access to 21g pinz. But I've been using 25g for yrs now.

It's not so much the gauge that's causing the problems but the amount of injects I have to do in my cycles.

I could have guessed that you were using 25g. pins. It is really difficult to push oil through those small pins. Try using a 22 or a 23 once just to make sure it's not just the pin size holding you up. Deep tissue massage can help to break up scar tissue. I only bring up the 25 gauge pin issue because I thought that I had scar tissue problems earlier this year, but it turned out that I needed to heat up my gear to get it to go through that small of a pin. I know you're not a newbie, and neither am I. It's easy to jump to the scar tissue conclusion, but now I know I was wrong, and hopefully you are too.

Ever try injecting your lats? They are pretty easy, and they can hold a lotta gear.

 

[Outtlaw]

Never tried lats. I'll give them a shot next go around and see how it works out. Im also gonna start heating my gear (not the 1st time that's been suggested) as I never do that either. Hopefully this will help out somewhat.

 

[maldorf]

I've always done this, but when you're doing ED injects there's not many places left to rotate to.

Exactly. I have the same problem. If I hit scar tissue the liquid wont even budge out of the syringe, its like it is clogged up or something. I will have to pull it out then and restick in another spot, and that blows.

 

[maldorf]

I could have guessed that you were using 25g. pins. It is really difficult to push oil through those small pins. Try using a 22 or a 23 once just to make sure it's not just the pin size holding you up. Deep tissue massage can help to break up scar tissue. I only bring up the 25 gauge pin issue because I thought that I had scar tissue problems earlier this year, but it turned out that I needed to heat up my gear to get it to go through that small of a pin. I know you're not a newbie, and neither am I. It's easy to jump to the scar tissue conclusion, but now I know I was wrong, and hopefully you are too.

Ever try injecting your lats? They are pretty easy, and they can hold a lotta gear.

I have had the scar tissue problem with guages as large as 22 guage, so the guage made no difference for me.

 

[paridhm]

I inject through it, but it takes a while to get all the gear through it. In fact, I did that yesterday. Annoying, but that's the price you pay.

 

[maldorf]

I inject through it, but it takes a while to get all the gear through it. In fact, I did that yesterday. Annoying, but that's the price you pay.

hum, the situation i have encountered is really bad. I tried to do that once and the liquid in the syringe actually shot out the back where the plunger is and none went into the site.

 

[nsashbl01]

I could have guessed that you were using 25g. pins. It is really difficult to push oil through those small pins. Try using a 22 or a 23 once just to make sure it's not just the pin size holding you up. Deep tissue massage can help to break up scar tissue. I only bring up the 25 gauge pin issue because I thought that I had scar tissue problems earlier this year, but it turned out that I needed to heat up my gear to get it to go through that small of a pin. I know you're not a newbie, and neither am I. It's easy to jump to the scar tissue conclusion, but now I know I was wrong, and hopefully you are too.

Ever try injecting your lats? They are pretty easy, and they can hold a lotta gear.

I do the same shit. Always use 25ga, and hit lats, delts, quads, rarely glutes, have hit bi's. Lats are so easy for me. I just cross my arms. The syringe goes in the arm closest to my body, and my other hand holds onto the elbow of the injecting arm. Heating it really helps too.....

 

[bigdho]

I had the same problem. Try switching to a 21 gauge 1 1/2 needle a put it all the way in the oil will go through faster and being that deep you will pass through the scaring.

 

[CENTURION44]

I use 25g 1.5in pinz....have 4 cycles under my belt and my quads are filling up with scar tissue...I find that if i inject in my glutes...i develop less scar tissue for some reason..but I hate doing glute injects....id rather do quads and calfs anyday of the week .... No more ED or EOD cycles for me....I learned that lesson the hard way...just cant do it...

My question is...is there anything that you can add to your gear to thin it out? I wouldnt have aproblem doing more injects with say a 29g pin if there was something safe to thin out the gear with..that wont make it BURN like a bitch

 

[maldorf]

I had the same problem. Try switching to a 21 gauge 1 1/2 needle a put it all the way in the oil will go through faster and being that deep you will pass through the scaring.

Good point, you can go with a longer or shorter needle and miss the scar tissue. I sometimes dont inject as deep as usual and avoid hitting the scar tissues.

 

[nsashbl01]

I use 25g 1.5in pinz....have 4 cycles under my belt and my quads are filling up with scar tissue...I find that if i inject in my glutes...i develop less scar tissue for some reason..but I hate doing glute injects....id rather do quads and calfs anyday of the week .... No more ED or EOD cycles for me....I learned that lesson the hard way...just cant do it...

My question is...is there anything that you can add to your gear to thin it out? I wouldnt have aproblem doing more injects with say a 29g pin if there was something safe to thin out the gear with..that wont make it BURN like a bitch

I have a whole bunch of 25x1.5 pins you can have. Those are impossible to push. I tried twice and said screw it. I use 1" or 5/8". I was pushing so hard with one of those the body of the syringe ruptured! Started pissing right out of the side of the syringe! You must have some serious patience!

 

[Dial_tone]

I stick with long esters so I don't have to drill too many holes. I also use the smallest needle practicable. I gave up on trying to push oil thru 25g one handed; I save those for b-12. I only use 23gb in the butt/quads for oils and abs/delts for b-12, igf-1, hcg with a 25g or 29g insulin pin.

 

[CENTURION44]

I have a whole bunch of 25x1.5 pins you can have. Those are impossible to push. I tried twice and said screw it. I use 1" or 5/8". I was pushing so hard with one of those the body of the syringe ruptured! Started pissing right out of the side of the syringe! You must have some serious patience!

I counted with a stop watch.....3cc in my right quad....went thru at 25g 1.5" in just over 30seconds....I warm it up though..and never have had a problem pushing

 

[2NDOMEGA]

Have you tried ultrasound or interferential electrotherapy to break up the "scar tissue". Might work, just an idea. It is used sometimes to loosen tissue post trauma. It will increase circulation for sure.

 

[Outtlaw]

Have you tried ultrasound or interferential electrotherapy to break up the "scar tissue". Might work, just an idea. It is used sometimes to loosen tissue post trauma. It will increase circulation for sure.

I've heard of this, but Im not trying to dish out a truckload of cash to do ultrasounds and shit.

 

[Outtlaw]

I counted with a stop watch.....3cc in my right quad....went thru at 25g 1.5" in just over 30seconds....I warm it up though..and never have had a problem pushing

What's your method for warming up the gear?

 

[nsashbl01]

What's your method for warming up the gear?

Ultrsounds are not to expensive. Go to a chiro. I run a trickle of hot water. Hold the syringe in it by the needle. let the stream hit the middle of the body and run down towards the plunger.

 

[CENTURION44]

What's your method for warming up the gear?

I use a 20g to draw and 25g to inject...after i draw i lay the full syringe atop a lamp...with a 75 to 100 watt bulb in for about 30 seconds to a minute....just see how it feels...it should be pretty warm to the touch...thins it out ALLOT..Patience is the key..a firm steady push will get it out in no time....id rather spend a minute injecting than be riddled with scar tissue..dont get me wrong..i still get some...but not nearly as much as when i used 22 or 23g pins...