Don't know if you are going to like this answer or not, but ttokkyo is a company which was built specifically for the illegal sale of vet steroids; to Americans mainly. Their concerns were not with quality but quantity. Meaning that they wanted to make there products cheap to sell alot. For example, the issue that has come up with their anavar causing gyno. Just try to tell me that their isn't dbol in the anavar. You can figure out the rest on your own.