Satch/ Could you please help???

[worldgrappler]

Satch I was hoping you could help me. This is the cycle I'm planning on doing. I'm a pro MMA fighter and I get tested that the reason for the low test. Also I have never used Insulin before and I was hoping you could help me out. I have 3 Novolog insulin pens 100 units of insulin in each.

2 Iu. GH /ED
250mg TEST/ Every 5 days
6 I.u Insulin after workout.



Also because of my training when would it be best to take the insulin after a weight training session or my sparring session? also should I run test with GH and Insulin or can I run GH and Slin alone.

Thanx Satch for your time

 

[RADAR]

Satch I was hoping you could help me. This is the cycle I'm planning on doing. I'm a pro MMA fighter and I get tested that the reason for the low test. Also I have never used Insulin before and I was hoping you could help me out. I have 3 Novolog insulin pens 100 units of insulin in each.

2 Iu. GH /ED
250mg TEST/ Every 5 days
6 I.u Insulin after workout.







Also because of my training when would it be best to take the insulin after a weight training session or my sparring session? also should I run test with GH and Insulin or can I run GH and Slin alone.

Thanx Satch for your time

What is your training history, weight & age??? That would help a ton.

RADAR

 

[Bruce]

satch is a great dude and all but any particular reasons why bros are coming on here now and calling him out for questions many of us can help with. i understand he is knows a shit load but so do others bro.

 

[will b huge]

Satch I was hoping you could help me. This is the cycle I'm planning on doing. I'm a pro MMA fighter and I get tested that the reason for the low test. Also I have never used Insulin before and I was hoping you could help me out. I have 3 Novolog insulin pens 100 units of insulin in each.

2 Iu. GH /ED
250mg TEST/ Every 5 days
6 I.u Insulin after workout.



Also because of my training when would it be best to take the insulin after a weight training session or my sparring session? also should I run test with GH and Insulin or can I run GH and Slin alone.

Thanx Satch for your time

Although 6iu isnt that much, just the question scares me that more research may be needed.....Insulin/Gh can put you in the hospital quick if not careful.....I'd strongly suggest getting yourself a blood glucose meter and start logging your readings and know how everything effects you and how much......furthermore, you may need to inject your insulin halfway through your sparring session.......and depending on diet....if insulin/gh is high and glucose is scarcely in the body like 3mmol (due to insulin inject)---you could have a seizure, go into a coma, most likely get rushed to the hospital to get a sugar shot, etc......


Also, a question I had, is if you want the cycle to be that serious to maximize anabolic effects by adding INSULIN, then why only 2iu per day of GH---bump it up to 4iu...and you need to run for many months.....

Good Luck bro.....

 

[Excidium28]

Insulin made me bipolar as shit! Never doin it again.

 

[satchboogie]

to be honest bro, i dont know much about the proper use of insulin nor hgh for that matter.

all i can relay to you is what i've read on the boards.
but im not the type to copy and paste some shit and make you believe i been there..

i speak from personal experience so with this one i cant help out much.

but i assure you the good bros here can.

bump for the good bro!

 

[needsize]

satch is a great dude and all but any particular reasons why bros are coming on here now and calling him out for questions many of us can help with. i understand he is knows a shit load but so do others bro.

I was wondering the same thing....primo questions I can see, but I dont know that satch really has much experience with insulin or gh

 

[ed2005]

Satch I was hoping you could help me. This is the cycle I'm planning on doing. I'm a pro MMA fighter and I get tested that the reason for the low test. Also I have never used Insulin before and I was hoping you could help me out. I have 3 Novolog insulin pens 100 units of insulin in each.

2 Iu. GH /ED
250mg TEST/ Every 5 days
6 I.u Insulin after workout.



Also because of my training when would it be best to take the insulin after a weight training session or my sparring session? also should I run test with GH and Insulin or can I run GH and Slin alone.

If you're taking open answers from anyone then I would respectfully question your desire to use of insulin. -Insulin is extremely dangerous and you can die from it or have some serious complications. Hypoglycemia is a major risk factor and symptoms include disorientation, headache, drowsiness, weakness, dizziness, fast heartbeat, sweating, tremor, and nausea and coma. This can and WILL happen to you if you use Insulin so be carefull.
I think you would find that running with your GH for 6 months and then adding in your Test and maybe a oral like Var 2 months into your GH cycle will give you the results you require without the risks... Insulin is probably the biggest risk an athelete can take and if not used expertly could be the worst decision ever taken, especially in a sport like yours where stable BG levels are a must...If you decide to proceed with Slin please gather as much info on it and it's uses as is literally possible and always insure that someone is around when you take it after your training sessions....
Good luck
Ed

 

[wayneboard1]

ssaaatttcccchhhh, I have a sore upper thigh muscle, will you rub it with some hot oil for me?

 

[will b huge]

to be honest bro, i dont know much about the proper use of insulin nor hgh for that matter.

all i can relay to you is what i've read on the boards.
but im not the type to copy and paste some shit and make you believe i been there..

i speak from personal experience so with this one i cant help out much.

but i assure you the good bros here can.

bump for the good bro!

Why would you ever copy and paste shit like you been there?????.......

If someone asked me about PRIMO, I could respond---HERE, I found this (and then insert an expert post from yourself.......(Simply sharing things you find may help out---you dont have to have personal experience with it)....

IE...The best CANCER doctor in the world advises everyone all over, but that doctor doesnt have any personal experience with Cancer or taking Cancer drugs or fighting through Cancer.......(But he got educated and shares his knowledge with the world)---Thank god for that....

 

[worldgrappler]

Guys I appreciate all your help. The reason I chose Insluin is because I can't take any other anobolics because of getting tested.

I'm 6'2 245lbs 26y/o, any help you guys can give me would be a great help..

Could I do GH and low dosage test with out Insulin and still get good results. I do a shit load of cardio training for fights, So I wanted to keep as much muscle as possible and get leaner. If I could gain 10lbs that would be great.

 

[satchboogie]

Why would you ever copy and paste shit like you been there?????.......

If someone asked me about PRIMO, I could respond---HERE, I found this (and then insert an expert post from yourself.......(Simply sharing things you find may help out---you dont have to have personal experience with it)....

IE...The best CANCER doctor in the world advises everyone all over, but that doctor doesnt have any personal experience with Cancer or taking Cancer drugs or fighting through Cancer.......(But he got educated and shares his knowledge with the world)---Thank god for that....

yeah bro thats what i meant.
but i wont reply pretending like i know something if i havent been there.

 

[ed2005]

Guys I appreciate all your help. The reason I chose Insluin is because I can't take any other anobolics because of getting tested.

I'm 6'2 245lbs 26y/o, any help you guys can give me would be a great help..

Could I do GH and low dosage test with out Insulin and still get good results. I do a shit load of cardio training for fights, So I wanted to keep as much muscle as possible and get leaner. If I could gain 10lbs that would be great.

Yep, you could...you don't need slin to run with GH..GH will cut you and increase your muscle depth and quality..Eat the right amount of protein and spike your own insulin after your workouts with a good balanced shake and you should definately get the results you want without detection...If you run test with it be carefull as it can be detected where as under normal circumstances GH can't...
Good luck
Ed

 

[worldgrappler]

ed2005 so I can run GH by itself efectivley. I'read it works better with test.

Also if I do Run GH alone what would dosage would you recommend and for how long I was going to do 2I.u ED.

Thanks for your help

 

[Smokescreen]

I have experience with Gh and Slin. That's all I use to get size. Insulin is fucking $30 for christs sake! Thats dirt cheap! And GH...well....I get that from insurance. And Test too because of my HRT.

This is me on only 250 Test per week with 6ius of GH and 18ius of Slin




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[worldgrappler]

Carth

Could you help me out? I'm new to GH and Slin. I have 300 units of Novolog Insulin in the Pens and 100 I.u.'s of Jintropin GH. I don't have any test right now but can get some if I need it. The only is I will get tested so I don't want to pop. If you can help me out that would be great man
Thanks

 

[Smokescreen]

The way I did it was that I would take 250 Test every Wednesday. And then the GH I would take 6ius per day. Since I would get up at 4am to be at the gym at 5am. I would take 2ius of GH before leaving the house. Then right after the gym I would take 8ius of humalog slin into the bicep area. And then down a protein/dextrose shake. And then every 3hours, prior to having a meal. I would take 2ius of slin.

The other 2 dose of GH would be taken at noon. And the other before bed. That's all to it. No big deal. I have taken slin before training. And let me tell you bro...it makes you fucking strong! Pumps are awesome. But I have came very close to going hypo. So that is something I will never do again! Only do it the way I told you.

And always carry a soda with you or some OJ just in case you go hypo. And get yourself a BG meter.

 

[worldgrappler]

Carth

Thanx for the info I appreciate it. I was only thinking about doing 2I.U's of GH daily. I can't really afford to do 6I.u's right now maybe when I get some bigger fights and bigger paydays.

One more question if you don't mind I have Novolog insulin. the ones that come in the Flex pens its a fast acting Insulin is this one ok. Also can I get good results from running the GH and Slin with no Test?

Also because of my sport I train more than once a day should the Slin be used after say a weight training session or say a sparring session? sorry for all the questions bro I just want to make sure I do this right and you've been a great help.

As far as diet goes how maany carbs should I be taking after taking the Slin?

 

[Smokescreen]

Take the slin after weight training. 10grams of simple carbs per IU of slin. Split the GH then. 1iu before lifting and the other an hour before bed.

 

[worldgrappler]

Thanx Carth. I appreciate your help. I know this might sound like a stupid question but the Slin needles are in Insulin units not international units so would 8 on the slin pin be what I would take after weight training? Also will I get noticable results from this cycle. I'm 6'2 245lbs 14% bf. I'm hoping to get leaner and more muscular while at the same time being able to recover quicker. If this a resonable assumption?

Again thanx again

 

[Smokescreen]

Thanx Carth. I appreciate your help. I know this might sound like a stupid question but the Slin needles are in Insulin units not international units so would 8 on the slin pin be what I would take after weight training? Also will I get noticable results from this cycle. I'm 6'2 245lbs 14% bf. I'm hoping to get leaner and more muscular while at the same time being able to recover quicker. If this a resonable assumption?

Again thanx again

Are you using 100unit slin syringes? Then each line is 2ius. You are 14% BF huh? And you plan on only using what?? 2ius of GH? Hmmmm. I don't know about getting leaner. But you will get bigger and more stronger and harder. But DO NOT expect miracles. Gear does a whole lot better job IMO.

 

[will b huge]

Yep, you could...you don't need slin to run with GH..GH will cut you and increase your muscle depth and quality..Eat the right amount of protein and spike your own insulin after your workouts with a good balanced shake and you should definately get the results you want without detection...If you run test with it be carefull as it can be detected where as under normal circumstances GH can't...
Good luck
Ed

I MUST spread karma around before giving it to Ed2005 again.....LOL---good advice from a good man...

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Worldgrappler --

I don't fight professionally and I never have. I'm 5'11, 190 lbs, 6-7% bf. I gotta tell you, from what you have said so far I think you should stop and re-evaluate everything for just a little moment.

First off, as a fighter you do not want any extra weight at all. None. Anything you cannot use toward winning the fight is not only worthless, but a serious liability. It takes oxygen to support tissue, whether its muscle or fat, and I have never understood the gradual movement of MMT fighters toward fatness in the heavyweight division (actually I understand it perfectly, but I disagree with the motives).

14% is fat. Its just that simple. You don't need GH or slin, you need to train harder and eat better. Maybe add winny or var for strength while dieting (var). I have trained with a lot of fighters and you know what I have noticed? None of the heavies are in shape anymore. Ever since Coleman showed up looking like a bull for slaughter, overmuscled and undertrained, this trend has become more and more overt.

See, to me you are a lightheavy who just hasn't trained enough.

Understand that I am not flaming you, and if I sound a bit blunt, well...you're a fighter and you need to know what your vulnerabilities are before you get knocked on your ass because you were too busy sucking wind to get over on your opponent.

Lose the weight by EXERCISING is what I am getting at.

 

[worldgrappler]

Fukkenshredded-

I hear what you are sayin. I train my ass off so I know I wont be sucking wind. I can't use AAS because of testing of atheltic commissions and random tests from my team. I actually would like to put on 10-15lbs. While i was on D-bol, Sust, and Winny in April of this year I was 265lbs at 11%bf. I would like to get back there if I can only get much leaner. But I by now means want to be a light heavy, I'm 6'3 at 205 i look like I'm on crack and I'm weak as hell. thanks for your info though I appreciate it.

Carth- The insulin I have in in the Flex pens each pen is 3ml with 100 units of Slin.. you can click the pen to 1 unit, 2 units, 3 units, etc.... it's Novolog which is very fast acting insulin. Thanks for your help also carth what Dosage of GH would you recommend taking to get notciably leaner.

 

[Throw2Far]

How often do you get tested? Why don't u just use high dose prop or even test suspension...

 

[worldgrappler]

The tests are Random

 

[Smokescreen]

Fukkenshredded-

I hear what you are sayin. I train my ass off so I know I wont be sucking wind. I can't use AAS because of testing of atheltic commissions and random tests from my team. I actually would like to put on 10-15lbs. While i was on D-bol, Sust, and Winny in April of this year I was 265lbs at 11%bf. I would like to get back there if I can only get much leaner. But I by now means want to be a light heavy, I'm 6'3 at 205 i look like I'm on crack and I'm weak as hell. thanks for your info though I appreciate it.

Carth- The insulin I have in in the Flex pens each pen is 3ml with 100 units of Slin.. you can click the pen to 1 unit, 2 units, 3 units, etc.... it's Novolog which is very fast acting insulin. Thanks for your help also carth what Dosage of GH would you recommend taking to get notciably leaner.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cathuman.htm

I only use GH for bulking with Slin. Not for leaning out.

 

[worldgrappler]

Ok Thanks Carth.. Could you help me out me out with the Insulin pens I have I want to make sure I don't take to much. Each pen is 3ml and has 100 units of Novolog Insulin.

Carth thanks for all your help and time I greatly appreciate it.

 

[Smokescreen]

How many lines are there on the pen? Are there 50? If so then each line is 2ius. If there are no lines. Then it must be that each click is 1iu.

 

[worldgrappler]

Carth-

The pen clicks to 60..