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SARS more dangerous than AIDS...

The mathematical prediciton all along was that as soon as we achieved a global society we would have a virus manefiest that would wipe out 80% of the world's population.

We are right on schedule.
 
SofaGeorge said:
The mathematical prediciton all along was that as soon as we achieved a global society we would have a virus manefiest that would wipe out 80% of the world's population.

We are right on schedule.


Right on!

Glad I live in SC...shit....nobody knows we exist.:D
 
Re: Numbers lie....

Baby Gorilla said:
Actually, there's no way to predict mortality with much accuracy.

SARS will kill more in areas less inclined to have good health and good medical care. You could see 50% fatality in heavily populated, high population, impoverished areas before it's done. In first world nations, you might not see it go above 5% fatality.
Well, I wasn't trying to be accurate outside of Hong Kong.

Hong Kong doesn't have too bad of a health care system... it is only a little bit worse than the US. And people are usually inclined to have good health.
 
Anyone ever notice how the CDC (and many other such organizations) will jump on a virus like SARS, that progresses very quickly, like flies racing to fresh cow shit. They have even said they are "very close" to figuring out how to successfully treat it. But when it comes to a virus with a lower rate of progression, like AIDS, they sit on their ass and ask for research grants.

I can recall reading an article about 3 or 4 years ago, where a few doctors volunteered themselves to be infected with the AIDS virus. They had come up with some sort of vaccine, that they were certain would work. But the "powers that be" gave them a big fat NO to testing it on humans. With that in mind, I assumed they already had positive results with tests on animals. Then I never heard anything else about it.........makes me wonder if someone was worried about lining their pockets first.

Then again, what do i know? My dad always told me that my brown eyes meant i was full of shit! haha
 
There have been much more deadly flu epidemics than SARS.
Of course, it´s tragic and it´s sad that we can´t do much about it except to treat the symptoms.
Nevertheless it´s not nearly as deadly as other diseases.
It will kill some people, which is sad, but i´m not going to lose much sleep about it or start thinking of nature´s revenge against humanity or the apocalypse.
 
suburbangorilla said:
I can recall reading an article about 3 or 4 years ago, where a few doctors volunteered themselves to be infected with the AIDS virus. They had come up with some sort of vaccine, that they were certain would work. But the "powers that be" gave them a big fat NO to testing it on humans. With that in mind, I assumed they already had positive results with tests on animals. Then I never heard anything else about it.........makes me wonder if someone was worried about lining their pockets first.

Then again, what do i know? My dad always told me that my brown eyes meant i was full of shit! haha
AIDS is not a virus.

A vaccine prevents people from being infected with something. Therefore, no one would volunteer to become infected with something because they had a vaccine.

One researcher named Peter Duesberg volunteered to become infected with HIV, claiming HIV doesn't cause AIDS. He probably knew he wouldn't get any grant money for this, and just wanted to make a point.
 
plornive said:
AIDS is not a virus.

A vaccine prevents people from being infected with something. Therefore, no one would volunteer to become infected with something because they had a vaccine.

One researcher named Peter Duesberg volunteered to become infected with HIV, claiming HIV doesn't cause AIDS. He probably knew he wouldn't get any grant money for this, and just wanted to make a point.


(i stand corrected) I guess i should have used the term HIV instead of AIDS, but they are both the same thing.

"The virus and the infection itself are known as HIV. The term AIDS (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) is used to mean the later stages of HIV infection. But both the terms HIV and AIDS refer to the same disease." - www.mayoclinic.com


If you dont beleive me about the vaccine...go here http://www.aegis.com/news/re/1997/RE970910.html and i didnt say the people who wanted to test their vaccine wanted a grant. I meant that HIV/AIDS research groups in general want grants.
 
suburbangorilla said:



(i stand corrected) I guess i should have used the term HIV instead of AIDS, but they are both the same thing.

"The virus and the infection itself are known as HIV. The term AIDS (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) is used to mean the later stages of HIV infection. But both the terms HIV and AIDS refer to the same disease." - www.mayoclinic.com


If you dont beleive me about the vaccine...go here http://www.aegis.com/news/re/1997/RE970910.html and i didnt say the people who wanted to test their vaccine wanted a grant. I meant that HIV/AIDS research groups in general want grants.
"He said the group was not proposing the ultimate test of a vaccine -- exposure to the infectious agent, in this case HIV." (http://www.aegis.com/news/re/1997/RE970910.html). They weren't planning to expose themselves to HIV. They were planning to expose themselves to a vaccine, which is a virus similar to HIV.

I see what you are saying now and you have a point. Maybe you should state things more clearly.
 
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