SARMS-s4 Study

[DJLegacy2k1]

BACK TO THE GOD DAMNED INFORMATION...

Make another thread to debate Ross outside of the AA forum if you really want to. None of these arguments on the last 2 pages have ANYTHING to do with the medical studies on SARMS. Also anyone saying "SARMS are GREAT for PCT" you are debating medical facts with how "people feel" not a factual debate. Lots of variables need to be tested with SARMS to state anything refuted in the scientific facts.

SARMS are sill helping me with the recomp project so no one here is "bashing" SARMS just showing the facts on suppression RISKS. Also if one bro weighing 230lbs isnt showing shutdown at 50mg doesnt mean the 180lb guy wont, it is dose dependent, side effects in people are usually selective to their outcome and severity.

Back to the topic or find a new thread please.

Not being disrespectful, I just dont want to see informational threads getting locked for BS reasons.

thank You

-Legacy

 

[Ross]

BACK TO THE GOD DAMNED INFORMATION...

Make another thread to debate Ross outside of the AA forum if you really want to. None of these arguments on the last 2 pages have ANYTHING to do with the medical studies on SARMS. Also anyone saying "SARMS are GREAT for PCT" you are debating medical facts with how "people feel" not a factual debate. Lots of variables need to be tested with SARMS to state anything refuted in the scientific facts.

SARMS are sill helping me with the recomp project so no one here is "bashing" SARMS just showing the facts on suppression RISKS. Also if one bro weighing 230lbs isnt showing shutdown at 50mg doesnt mean the 180lb guy wont, it is dose dependent, side effects in people are usually selective to their outcome and severity.

Back to the topic or find a new thread please.

Not being disrespectful, I just dont want to see informational threads getting locked for BS reasons.

thank You

-Legacy

Brilliant fucking post.

Seriously bro, I like you.

 

[Carlito B]

if you want t get "huge" like a bodybuilder the you would need to use trenbolone, testosterone, GH etc...

If you want to stay lean , muscular ( Men's Health look ) strong and fit without acne, bloat, not being able to fit your clothes, running out of breath , etc and still be chemically enhanced ( S-4 is a true chem with real world effects ) then you would use Sarms-4 and other supplements.

Just like many out there who have done their fair share of steroids I got tired of it; now enjoy being fit and lean but mainly strong because the sarms-4 does ( in my case ) give me the strength not even creatine can without being bloated, I like fitting in my clothes and I love jogging, I feel a lot better than when I used steroids.

So again, if you want to look like Jay Cuttler then steroids will help but if supplements are not enough for you and you do not want to RISK your health by using steroids or want to break the law then you can add some peptides like Lr3igf-1 or Sarms to your supplement arsenal and you will notice the difference.
C

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

I agree, If you are recomping and want to save muscle SARMS does well or if you are just starting out and want to "test the waters" for whatever reason and are not quiet ready for real AAS I think it would at least give the person some aid in added recovery and such. It has its places...

-Legacy

 

[Carlito B]

I agree, If you are recomping and want to save muscle SARMS does well or if you are just starting out and want to "test the waters" for whatever reason and are not quiet ready for real AAS I think it would at least give the person some aid in added recovery and such. It has its places...

-Legacy

I agree with you. Sarms can not be compared to steroids and I would go out on a limb and say it may even help some avoid using steroids ever and/or breaking the law.

Sarms-4 can help retain muscle and strength gains but if used in high dosages it "can" be suppressive although there is no proof of that but I am only guessing considering other drugs used for PCT can also cause suppression like clomid, Hcg , letrozole, etc BUT if used correctly during PCT it can help bring back natural testosterone levels. I do not believe Sarms-4 can help bring back natural testosterone levels but it has anabolic effects the same way Lr3igf-1 does and also is used by many while n PCT ( as an addition just for its anabolic effects- preserve muscle mass )

Peace!

C

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

I agree with you. Sarms can not be compared to steroids and I would go out on a limb and say it may even help some avoid using steroids ever and/or breaking the law.

Sarms-4 can help retain muscle and strength gains but if used in high dosages it "can" be suppressive although there is no proof of that but I am only guessing considering other drugs used for PCT can also cause suppression like clomid, Hcg , letrozole, etc BUT if used correctly during PCT it can help bring back natural testosterone levels. I do not believe Sarms-4 can help bring back natural testosterone levels but it has anabolic effects the same way Lr3igf-1 does and also is used by many while n PCT ( as an addition just for its anabolic effects- preserve muscle mass )

Peace!

C

Not sure which part you said that there is no proof of, because in the animal trials they found slight shut down in every single test I have found so far, its just dependent on weight and variables obviously.

If you are talking about the shutdown from clomid, I havent checked it out so I wont speculate

-Legacy

 

[Carlito B]

Not sure which part you said that there is no proof of, because in the animal trials they found slight shut down in every single test I have found so far, its just dependent on weight and variables obviously.

If you are talking about the shutdown from clomid, I havent checked it out so I wont speculate

-Legacy

Human trials? that is what I meant. I know about all of the studies and some of them are conflictive and inconclusive that is why this Sarms-4 is a "research chemical" not a "drug medication"

Too much Clomid , Hcg or any of the AI can cause a rebound effect and that is my opinion from years of experience in the forums, the market, the sport, the research biz, etc.

C

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Human trials? that is what I meant. I know about all of the studies and some of them are conflictive and inconclusive that is why this Sarms-4 is a "research chemical" not a "drug medication"

Too much Clomid , Hcg or any of the AI can cause a rebound effect and that is my opinion from years of experience in the forums, the market, the sport, the research biz, etc.

C

Right, as far as human trials go then, we cant even say they effect us at all because all human information medically has been LIMITED at best. So until there are more controlled, monitored, testing, no one can really say exactly how SARMS effects humans, other than reports of slight strength and recovery effects.

-Legacy

 

[*Swifto*]

Truckdaddy, I'm still waiting for references of your claim that Clomid at high doses is suppressive to the HPTA? So...

Or did you believe something Nelson wrote about it without references?

Still waiting....Truckdaddy.

Or shall I assume you dont actually have a referenece?

 

[B_mac]

anyone have any input on what it did for ance? i know radar said it helped his