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sarm S4 for my first cycle ever?

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hunterthinker

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23 years old
6'0"
167lbs"
body fat around 10%.

I've been working out history from 17-20, quite consistent got up to 165lbs from 150lbs. Wasn't really happy with the gains with the amount of effort i put in, so I started playing more sports instead. I'm around the same weight now, at 23 but I'm very active, I play a different sport almost every day of the week. I've started to work out atleast twice a week lately. I wanted to try something anabolic for once. I currently use BSN Cellmass and NOXplode, I don't believe thse really do anything for me. I purchased sarm S4 and it is on its way, as is a vial of Tamox. I'm just wondering what I might expect from using this. My goals are to bulk up to 180-185. Is there anything else I should also be taking. I eat quite healthy, my caloric intake is around 2700 calories.
 
hunterthinker said:
23 years old
6'0"
167lbs"
body fat around 10%.

I've been working out history from 17-20, quite consistent got up to 165lbs from 150lbs. Wasn't really happy with the gains with the amount of effort i put in, so I started playing more sports instead. I'm around the same weight now, at 23 but I'm very active, I play a different sport almost every day of the week. I've started to work out atleast twice a week lately. I wanted to try something anabolic for once. I currently use BSN Cellmass and NOXplode, I don't believe thse really do anything for me. I purchased sarm S4 and it is on its way, as is a vial of Tamox. I'm just wondering what I might expect from using this. My goals are to bulk up to 180-185. Is there anything else I should also be taking. I eat quite healthy, my caloric intake is around 2700 calories.
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The real world judgement on SARMS S4 are still out so please keep us up to date on your progress.
 
hunterthinker said:
Hey Truck,

Yeah, I was planning on just taking it with the Tamox, for a month. Would you suggest otherwise, or something else?
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I like it alone, its not going to put alot of weight on you.

Its going to change up your body comp totally.

I ran a sarms/var cycle that rocked. You could also use one of the pro hormones that are around.
 
Sweet, I'm getting excited to receive my shipment. How do you reckon it will change my body comp? I'm already quite lean, I'm hoping to get stronger and bigger. At 167lbs, what do you think I could expect, and was there anythign you did that really maximized your expereince with S4?

truckdaddy said:
I like it alone, its not going to put alot of weight on you.

Its going to change up your body comp totally.

I ran a sarms/var cycle that rocked. You could also use one of the pro hormones that are around.
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hunterthinker said:
Sweet, I'm getting excited to receive my shipment. How do you reckon it will change my body comp? I'm already quite lean, I'm hoping to get stronger and bigger. At 167lbs, what do you think I could expect, and was there anythign you did that really maximized your expereince with S4?
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I was trying to get leaner and preserve muscle as I did it.

If you up the protein and BCAAs you will be pleased.

If you want to gain 15 pounds, you will need more than the s4.
 
how much do you think i might gain with the s4 alone, during that month? I may do a cycle of something afterwrads depending on the outcome of the s4. being that i am only 167lbs, would 50mg be too much for me? The stuff I bought is 30ml at 100mg/ml. That is enough for like 2 months at 50mg.

truckdaddy said:
I was trying to get leaner and preserve muscle as I did it.

If you up the protein and BCAAs you will be pleased.

If you want to gain 15 pounds, you will need more than the s4.
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if u wanna bulk u should eat alot more than 2700 cals, up ur protein to 1 gram/pound at least and ur carbs to 3 grams/pound along with efa's (essential fatty acid) about 50 grams/day. this is the minimum of what u should eat, if u can't manage to eat those amounts try adding a mass gainer to ur diet.
 
For a first timer SARMS/BIG BLAST/GEAR/Better Protein bars will sock on a good 15 pounds in 6 weeks 100% legally. If you train right.
 
Sarms S4 arrived yesterday! It arrived in a little white rectangular box, with styrofoam balls in it and an unmarked brown glass tube with a dropper in it. (marked, .5 and 1 ml).

I tried it first directly into my mouth and it was without any competition the worst thing I've ever tasted. Way worse than a terrible shot at a bar. Its almost as if there is a bittering agent in it or something. The taste was bitter for a long time, I kept drinking different things instead of rinsing my mouth out, just to make sure i didn't spit any out. I kind of got a head rush right away, but maybe it was just adrenaline because I was thinking (unmarked tube from who knows where, what am i getting myself into).

Day 2, i thought I'd mix it into my breakfast shake, terrible idea. This stuff has the ability to dilute its bitterness into a large volume, without diluting any of the bitterness. I felt pretty sickly from the taste on the way to clinic in the morning. Interesting to note, when you drop the stuff into cool water, a white precipitate forms right away. I wonder if that is the actual active ingredient. If anyone has any tips on how to get rid of the taste that would be sweet.

Anyhow, evening of day 2 i was doing ab ripper x. I've only been on the program for about a week, and so this was my fourth time doing it. I never get through it without taking a couple breaks. Today, I managed to get through it wihtout a break for the first time. It was weird, without feeling any different my muscles didn't seem to fatigue as easily and so I was able to complete the whole 15 minutes. I should add that I've also started on creatine again in the last couple days as well. I switched from using no xplode prework out, and cellmass, a couple hours after protein shake post work out. Now I just use SizeOn a couple hours after protein shake post work out. It's supposed to be the newest and best kind of creatine. Anyhow, thought I'd share my progress. I'm only taking .5 ml S4 :)once a day.
 
hunterthinker said:
Sarms S4 arrived yesterday! It arrived in a little white rectangular box, with styrofoam balls in it and an unmarked brown glass tube with a dropper in it. (marked, .5 and 1 ml).

I tried it first directly into my mouth and it was without any competition the worst thing I've ever tasted. Way worse than a terrible shot at a bar. Its almost as if there is a bittering agent in it or something. The taste was bitter for a long time, I kept drinking different things instead of rinsing my mouth out, just to make sure i didn't spit any out. I kind of got a head rush right away, but maybe it was just adrenaline because I was thinking (unmarked tube from who knows where, what am i getting myself into).

Day 2, i thought I'd mix it into my breakfast shake, terrible idea. This stuff has the ability to dilute its bitterness into a large volume, without diluting any of the bitterness. I felt pretty sickly from the taste on the way to clinic in the morning. Interesting to note, when you drop the stuff into cool water, a white precipitate forms right away. I wonder if that is the actual active ingredient. If anyone has any tips on how to get rid of the taste that would be sweet.

Anyhow, evening of day 2 i was doing ab ripper x. I've only been on the program for about a week, and so this was my fourth time doing it. I never get through it without taking a couple breaks. Today, I managed to get through it wihtout a break for the first time. It was weird, without feeling any different my muscles didn't seem to fatigue as easily and so I was able to complete the whole 15 minutes. I should add that I've also started on creatine again in the last couple days as well. I switched from using no xplode prework out, and cellmass, a couple hours after protein shake post work out. Now I just use SizeOn a couple hours after protein shake post work out. It's supposed to be the newest and best kind of creatine. Anyhow, thought I'd share my progress. I'm only taking .5 ml S4 :)once a day.
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I would split them up....add a bunch of BCAAs to the mix.
 
Just kidding about the sarms,I get the taste out by letting an ice cube melt in my mouth.


after awhile its not so bad.

RADAR
 
Nothing real crazy to report. I find I fatigue less quickly when doing activity, and I'm stronger, I haven't seen any significant increase in my size just yet. My appetite has increased a lot though, I find I can now have around 2000 calories just for breakfast (during the hours of 7 to 10am). I'm going to need all these calories ebcause I always seem to burn tons when I play squash (around 1300 on average). Today I had a little bit of a throat cough, so I had some cough mixture before taking my sarms, and then my roomie was having a pickle and she offered me one. Between the cough mixture and the pickle... SOLUTION for the terrible taste. I'll try it again with just hte pickle tomorrow. I'll post more as soon as I have sweet news to report. I can still see just as well at night I think.
 
Nelson Montana said:
For a first timer SARMS/BIG BLAST/GEAR/Better Protein bars will sock on a good 15 pounds in 6 weeks 100% legally. If you train right.
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Terrific idea. No shut down, lean gains that you keep!

I would add some Unleashed to keep nat free test levels as high as possible.
 
Eeee! My vision is tinted yellow after about 4 days at .5ml! I can still see perfectly fine, it's just tinted yellow. I wonder if it is because hte lightbulb in my living room is out. Even my computer screen looks a little yellowy tho. What now! (This isn't a real big deal to me, unless people have found that it is permanent)
 
Do your eyes look different, or only the way things look to you ? I know this would cause me to be alarmed. I just started sarms today & if I see any effects that may be damaging; I will stop. Does anyone know the mechanisim by which sarms effects vision? It would be nice if the sarms guys would answer this question, but I know their reply already..." this is for research purposes only"
 
split endz said:
Do your eyes look different, or only the way things look to you ? I know this would cause me to be alarmed. I just started sarms today & if I see any effects that may be damaging; I will stop. Does anyone know the mechanisim by which sarms effects vision? It would be nice if the sarms guys would answer this question, but I know their reply already..." this is for research purposes only"
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Are you asking if your eyes will look physically different? No, not at all.
 
split endz said:
Do your eyes look different, or only the way things look to you ? I know this would cause me to be alarmed. I just started sarms today & if I see any effects that may be damaging; I will stop. Does anyone know the mechanisim by which sarms effects vision? It would be nice if the sarms guys would answer this question, but I know their reply already..." this is for research purposes only"
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the only answer I can come up with is that there are androgen receptors in the eyes. They must be affected by SARMs.

hunterthinker: You are taking 50mg/day? Are you taking it all at once or splitting the dose?
 
Day 14:
So I'm two weeks in, I don't really have significant yellowing of vision. In the evening in my bedroom the colours of my dress shirts look different, but that's about the only place and time I can tell any difference. In terms of gains I'm 174.5lbs now so about 7 lbs bigger. I've been eating tons and playing lots of sport (mostly squash, a little basketball and volleyball and innertube waterpolo), doing P90x here and there. My arms are a little bigger and stronger, but I think I've mostly gained in my legs. My jeans fit tighter in the thighs and bum area. I've also been getting really bad shin splints in the last few days, in the lower lateral compartment. I looked it up online and these kinds of shin splints can be caused by hypertrophy/tight calves. I guess the calves pull on the tibialis anterior and overstretch them, causing them to get inflamed. It was actually suuper sore on Sunday. Anyway I've been stretching even more in my calves to make it better and it has been working. Considering my current weight is pretty much the heaviest I've ever been I'm pretty happy so far. I am off school at the end of this week so I'll be hitting the weights a lot harder. I hope to get to 180 in the next few months, so we'll see how things come along.

split endz said:
Thanks. Yes, that is what I meant. I know there are conditions that will cause the whites of the eyes to yellow.. just making sure.
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My eyes aren't yellow at all. Conditions that cause your eyes to become yellow involve the liver, and I have no history of liver problems that would cause jaundice. Cheers!
 
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