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S. Segal 7th Dan Aikido

Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Pardon the cut and paste.

...this took place on the set of "Out for Justice" where Segal was using a Brooklin accent and did a stick fight w/Dan Inasanto-who also tells this story. Well Segal was being a dick to the stuntmen, but that is his normal behavior according to them. Well he is talking about how bad he is and the stuntment say "Yeah, well we got this old guy back here who could choke you out!" and Segal stated that nobody coulod get close to him to choke him out he also had never heard of Judo Gene LeBell before that encounter. Well Gene came over and said that he could choke him out and and Segal said that he couldn't so Gene grabbed him real quick and started to choke him. Segal tapped and said that that wasn't fair he was talking and wasn't ready for Gene. So Uncle Gene waited for Segal to get "ready" and when he said that he was Gene grabbed him and started to choke him out and Segal coudln't do nothing w/the old guy. Well Gene was pissed off because Segal was being very rough for no reason on the stunt guys when doing the fight scenes w/them and was upset becuase Segal said he wasn't ready and wouldn't admit that Gene hooked him so as Uncle Gene would of put it "there is 2 ways to choke a person out, one way they go out nice and wake up ok, the other is they go out quick and they piss and crap on themselves" Gene did the latter! Then he drug Segal over to a closet and put him in there uncouncious. When he came to everybody was cracking up and he went and changed his clothes and fired Gene and his guys. Gene has not worked on another Segal Movie since.
got a link for that?
 
acneman said:
got a link for that?

Google Lebell and Segal. It's all over the internet.
 
on top of that, the he dosn't compete because he has nothing to prove line is bs
this thread being started, reguardless of if Segal has something to prove or not, the thread starter has made a claim that isn't backed up by, reality
so that line dosn't wash, not that it normally would anyway but in this case it is doubly useless
 
Kane Fan said:
on top of that, the he dosn't compete because he has nothing to prove line is bs
this thread being started, reguardless of if Segal has something to prove or not, the thread starter has made a claim that isn't backed up by, reality
so that line dosn't wash, not that it normally would anyway but in this case it is doubly useless

not sure what you mean but what im saying is that he will never compete as it cannot help his carreer only hurt it
if he wins hes no better off than he is right now
if he loses he loses a lot

an yeah i searched and only found other forum rumors
and about 20 diff versions
most believable was he let gene get the choke to show his defense against it and got choked out
does this mean gene would have started at 10 feet away and achieved the same results
who knows
i know i love gene lebell
but this story is covered in non proof and told in a way to make in never provable as the official line is that judo gene has a gag order to never confirm or discuss this story
and also i read where the rumor was that gary busey beat him up and about 7 other incidents where he was roughed up on set
seems that steve gets whopped all the time according to these forums

sick and tired of the hatin on traditional MA
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Pardon the cut and paste.

"...this took place on the set of "Out for Justice" where Segal was using a Brooklin accent and did a stick fight w/Dan Inasanto-who also tells this story. Well Segal was being a dick to the stuntmen, but that is his normal behavior according to them. Well he is talking about how bad he is and the stuntment say "Yeah, well we got this old guy back here who could choke you out!" and Segal stated that nobody coulod get close to him to choke him out he also had never heard of Judo Gene LeBell before that encounter. Well Gene came over and said that he could choke him out and and Segal said that he couldn't so Gene grabbed him real quick and started to choke him. Segal tapped and said that that wasn't fair he was talking and wasn't ready for Gene. So Uncle Gene waited for Segal to get "ready" and when he said that he was Gene grabbed him and started to choke him out and Segal coudln't do nothing w/the old guy. Well Gene was pissed off because Segal was being very rough for no reason on the stunt guys when doing the fight scenes w/them and was upset becuase Segal said he wasn't ready and wouldn't admit that Gene hooked him so as Uncle Gene would of put it "there is 2 ways to choke a person out, one way they go out nice and wake up ok, the other is they go out quick and they piss and crap on themselves" Gene did the latter! Then he drug Segal over to a closet and put him in there uncouncious. When he came to everybody was cracking up and he went and changed his clothes and fired Gene and his guys. Gene has not worked on another Segal Movie since."

Every story in life is a rumor. Every post you make and even your very existence is a rumor as I have only elitefitness.com's word that you exist.

People are often driven by ego. They don't always formulate a career cost/benefit analysis when their ego is threatened. Was your mind at work formulating a career cost/benefit analysis as you applied wrist locks, arm locks, and chokes in your street fights? Perhaps Segal thought he could break Labell's choke and he found different at the cost of consciousness. I take the story for what it is: a rumor with plausible basis. Gene Labell is know to have a fondness for putting guys to sleep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G181M6f3ZdU
I dont even care if its made up, the image of segal shitting his pants is priceless. I read it twice just to have him relive it fresh in my mind again. anyway, hes a wife beater, so he aint all that tough, just a tard.
 
I still think he's pretty cool. Nobody's perfect. Yea, he is a master of Aikido so we've got to give him props on that alone. Stop knocking the man, he provides some entertainmet for us all especially his goofy/macho movie lines and his SouthWestern Indian attire.
 
acneman said:
not sure what you mean but what im saying is that he will never compete as it cannot help his carreer only hurt it
if he wins hes no better off than he is right now
if he loses he loses a lot

an yeah i searched and only found other forum rumors
and about 20 diff versions
most believable was he let gene get the choke to show his defense against it and got choked out
does this mean gene would have started at 10 feet away and achieved the same results
who knows
i know i love gene lebell
but this story is covered in non proof and told in a way to make in never provable as the official line is that judo gene has a gag order to never confirm or discuss this story
and also i read where the rumor was that gary busey beat him up and about 7 other incidents where he was roughed up on set
seems that steve gets whopped all the time according to these forums

sick and tired of the hatin on traditional MA

That's why I prefaced my post by saying it was a rumor. I don't think anyone here hates traditional martial arts. I think most of the posters believe traditional martial arts less effective in sport combat than sport combat martial arts. I also think many posters have a distaste for traditional martial artists who believe their style optimally combat effective. 'Traditional martial artists' is the key phrase. They have nothing against the traditional art itself, they have something against the attitude of some of the practitioners.

The same can be said of many BJJ and MMA guys. They don't seem to realize that not everyone takes up martial arts to become a killing machine. Some take up the martial art for the beauty of it's movements, fitness aspects, or use it as a social outlet.
 
I have always enjoyed his movies, and definately enjoyed the aikido vs the villians scenarios. but from personal experience, the risk is too great to try to pull that stuff off. Muay Thai has a better effectiveness, and fights fire with fire, from my personal experience. but he is still a wife beater, and I laugh thinking he shit his pants. karma

and have a laugh at the blurb for his energy drink:
lightning bolt energy drink ghay pervert by the sound of it.
There is no telling what will happen once you get his juices inside you!
 
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