S. Segal 7th Dan Aikido

[MikeMartial]

a true test of skill and style to to cross credit it against other arts or free fighting. a master of an art isnt that way against the rest of the world, only that art. that means they have mastered THAT art only and can dominate those who have lesser ranking.

Well said. I've heard anecdotal stories of Aikido vs MT, Aikido vs Karate, and you can guess how they turned out.

And to those who don't know, one of the main aspects of an Aikido class is learning how to "accept" techniques. That is why everything looks fluid and effortless.

 

[nodiggitydave]

i still believe he could kick my ass

 

[Kane Fan]

yah if you attacked him like an Aikido student who was cooperating I have no doubt he could...

 

[Saintinistic]

p.s, YARG! will be oblivious to stevens attacks while he wipes his ass on stevens hakama. YARG!="what is that noise? a mosquito? ahh, never mind, I will take a dump right here on this black curtain"...

Damn crack pipe batman! I wrote the wrong villain in here, shoulda said:

p.s, KANE FAN will be oblivious to stevens attacks while he wipes his ass on stevens hakama. KANE FAN="what is that noise? a mosquito? ahh, never mind, I will take a dump right here on this black curtain"...

and Aikido is great for those wanting an active meditation, not an active self defence. tried it, and after nearly 4 months, failed to see how it could replace or even supplement my Muay Thai or CQC. I went back to the night club door to tell the other kick boxers/ boxers that they were very correct, but I had to try before I replied to their slamming of it. maybe I just prefer the harder and more confrontational styles, perhaps I dont want to divert the water, but force it back into itself?

now, if they had taught me to walk on water, then sweeeeet! I would be keen, jesus take that!

 

[Kane Fan]

yah walking on water would be pretty cool
I would hate to drown

 

[Trojan Horse]

trojan horse, your name has not made you aware of its implication. you have been owned by steven seagal, and smiled while he owned you. this is not a personal attack on you, but you have fallen for the hype.

a true test of skill and style to to cross credit it against other arts or free fighting. a master of an art isnt that way against the rest of the world, only that art. that means they have mastered THAT art only and can dominate those who have lesser ranking.

it doesnt mean that they are super duper master of everyone they come across. but it does mean that they at least have a degree of skill that may allow an easier win...may...

as Aikido relies on fine motor skill, when the adrenaline pumps, it falls apart and the practitioner isnt trained against an aggressive partner. street life changes everything, and the mind can shut down the art through fear. I have seen aikido dudes start swinging when shit hits the fan, which shows me it was the aikido that won, it was the over hand right.

dont believe everything you 'see' on tv. it is context relative.

p.s, YARG! will be oblivious to stevens attacks while he wipes his ass on stevens hakama. YARG!="what is that noise? a mosquito? ahh, never mind, I will take a dump right here on this black curtain"...

Agreed with most of your statement except for the part that you assume that I beleive the hype and that I was owned. True, your motor skills do decrease when adrenaline rises etc... True, he is the master of THAT art, True, a real artist is more versatile etc... I do not disagree. However; what people forget to understand is that Segal is versatile. You only see him displaying his Aikido skills here because it's an Aikido dojo. In fact, Segal has demonstrated that he utilizes many more forms of Martial Arts in addition to Aikido. His Aikido nonetheless is "Hollywood". He is still a very skilled artist in my opinion.

 

[Kane Fan]

where has he demonstraighted that he's got other maritl arts skills?
in movies?
or in competition

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

It's looks like Mexican Pro Wrestling. Segal has a vicious clothesline. Rumor has it that Judo Gene Lebell choked Segal to sleep on a movie set and made him shit his pants.

 

[acneman]

It's looks like Mexican Pro Wrestling. Segal has a vicious clothesline. Rumor has it that Judo Gene Lebell choked Segal to sleep on a movie set and made him shit his pants.

ah rumor.
what possible advantage does steven have to compete with other arts
in turnament or on the street
all he can do is lose face
why would judo gene and steve fight?????
steve would walk away if judo gene pushed it to the level of a street fight
why???
if he wins "you beat up an old man!!!!"
if he loses "you got beat by an old man!!!"
why compete????
who would he compete with???
what would he gain???
does tito want to do movies???
steven already does
why jeopardize his rep in competiton
it can only hurt him.
why dont bill goldberg or the rock compete
are they tough enough to when some mma matches?
would it help them make money???
ive used akido on the street with wrist locks and arm locks and chokes
i was a blue belt in akido
is it all i used???
not by a long shot but ive won fights using it

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

ah rumor.
what possible advantage does steven have to compete with other arts
in turnament or on the street
all he can do is lose face
why would judo gene and steve fight?????
steve would walk away if judo gene pushed it to the level of a street fight
why???
if he wins "you beat up an old man!!!!"
if he loses "you got beat by an old man!!!"
why compete????
who would he compete with???
what would he gain???
does tito want to do movies???
steven already does
why jeopardize his rep in competiton
it can only hurt him.
why dont bill goldberg or the rock compete
are they tough enough to when some mma matches?
would it help them make money???
ive used akido on the street with wrist locks and arm locks and chokes
i was a blue belt in akido
is it all i used???
not by a long shot but ive won fights using it

Pardon the cut and paste.

"...this took place on the set of "Out for Justice" where Segal was using a Brooklin accent and did a stick fight w/Dan Inasanto-who also tells this story. Well Segal was being a dick to the stuntmen, but that is his normal behavior according to them. Well he is talking about how bad he is and the stuntment say "Yeah, well we got this old guy back here who could choke you out!" and Segal stated that nobody coulod get close to him to choke him out he also had never heard of Judo Gene LeBell before that encounter. Well Gene came over and said that he could choke him out and and Segal said that he couldn't so Gene grabbed him real quick and started to choke him. Segal tapped and said that that wasn't fair he was talking and wasn't ready for Gene. So Uncle Gene waited for Segal to get "ready" and when he said that he was Gene grabbed him and started to choke him out and Segal coudln't do nothing w/the old guy. Well Gene was pissed off because Segal was being very rough for no reason on the stunt guys when doing the fight scenes w/them and was upset becuase Segal said he wasn't ready and wouldn't admit that Gene hooked him so as Uncle Gene would of put it "there is 2 ways to choke a person out, one way they go out nice and wake up ok, the other is they go out quick and they piss and crap on themselves" Gene did the latter! Then he drug Segal over to a closet and put him in there uncouncious. When he came to everybody was cracking up and he went and changed his clothes and fired Gene and his guys. Gene has not worked on another Segal Movie since."

Every story in life is a rumor. Every post you make and even your very existence is a rumor as I have only elitefitness.com's word that you exist.

People are often driven by ego. They don't always formulate a career cost/benefit analysis when their ego is threatened. Was your mind at work formulating a career cost/benefit analysis as you applied wrist locks, arm locks, and chokes in your street fights? Perhaps Segal thought he could break Labell's choke and he found different at the cost of consciousness. I take the story for what it is: a rumor with plausible basis. Gene Labell is know to have a fondness for putting guys to sleep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G181M6f3ZdU