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PHATchik

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For those of you who actually run, do you prefer indoors or out? This can even be meant as treadmill vs. just running anywhere. Last night after I worked out, I decided to run on the treadmill for my cardio. Now, I hate running, but it's good for you, so I decided to give it a whirl. While it was a big change from my normal cycling, I felt really good after I did it. My question is do you think it's easier doing it on a treadmill or running on a track/free run?
 
if you're going to make running a part of your life, for whatever reason, running outdoors is the way to go. a treadmill will still work of course, but most people find them boring. and generally, running on a treadmill is less effort than running outside (assuming you compare the same distance/speed), but peeps say you can even that up a bit by setting the incline on your treadmile to 1% or 2%. a treadmill has its advantages, of course...when the weather's bad (or it's too dark, unsafe, etc...), the treadmill is always available. and it is less impact on your body. but running outdoors is the real deal, no question. accept no substitutes.
 
Thanks. I had put a little bit of an incline on the treadmill last night. Not too much, but a little bit. Now that the weather is getting nice, I might try outdoors.
 
PHATchik said:
For those of you who actually run,
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that should read "for those of you that enjoy running"

won't do it. hate it. i stopped having knee problems when i stopped running. i know there's probably ways to heal those problems, but ya know what? i hate running and if knee problems is my excuse, then it's good enough for me :D

however, when i did run, we always did it outdoors. i couldn't imagine doing it on a treadmill. the only thing i think that sucks about running outdoors is that you see where you want to be, but it feels like it's taking you forever to get there.

btw - my best time in a 3 mile run was 21 minutes 30 seconds. i did that run while i was still in boot camp. i didn't think it was bad at all actually. a perfect score was 18 minutes.

my slowest time was the last run i did before i got out of the Marine Corps. i ran 27 minutes 45 seconds. i had a horrible cold at the time, and i just didn't give a shit as i was getting out in a week or so anyway. i was the only one running, as we usually did this as a platoon or as a company. one of my friends was in a Hummer following with a Navy Corpsman inside. he started his stopwatch when i left the starting line. at the halfway point, he yelled out the window "uh, dude, you better hurry up...you're already at 15 minutes!" oh yeah, anything over 28 minutes was failing. i just barely made it :supercool
 
I can run.... usually outdoors on grass, with cleats, I like sprint work, longer stuff like 400s/800s/miles on nice rubberized tracks only, with regular running shoes...
 
I love running - love the natural high after a few miles of intense output. Outside is best, but during winter an indoor track is fine but people give me strange gazes - they're just slow and create encumberance on the track :o
 
I'll do either really.. they both have their advantages and disadvantages...

basically treadmill during the winter months or when I'm not sure how far I want to run.
 
Indoors sucks..

I usually run 2-3 mile three times a week only outdoors......I used to do the treadmill but is very boring......I enjoy the view and fresh air outdoors!
 
Well, last night I had my headphones on and was watching Grease since it was on one of the TVs so it wasn't too boring. We have indoor and outdoor tracks, so I might try one of those next time.
 
Parts of my neighborhood have lots of super nice older homes, so it is pretty cool running around watching what people are doing to their homes and just getting the fresh air.
 
I used to. Good endorphine rush. Bad for the knees tho. I don't know anyone who has ran for more than a few years without knee probs.
 
I'm with crak600. I hate running worse than anything. When I used to do it .....a long time ago... it was always outdoors. All that pounding eventually starts hurting the knees. I'll do some stair stepping sometimes but that's about it.
 
what was worse than just the running was these asswads would take us on desert runs. yeah,that was always fun running through nice thick sand. you'd think that sand would help cushion your feet, and yes, it does. but when it's real thick, you do more damage to your joints by digging in all the damn time and it's pretty easy to twist an ankle or knee running in that shit. seen it happen and heard of it happening to a lot of people, yet they still ran us through the sand. fucking idiots.
 
I hate running too. With a passion. I always felt like I was in a scene from Baywatch. But last night, after I ran, I felt so much better. I mean, it's been hellacious the last two weeks, but I felt damn good. I actually enjoyed it. Go figure. It definitely helped me clear my head a little bit. :)
 
Does anyone have any running-specific routienes that they follow? Whats the best way to increase endurance/stamina?

Running is damn effective, but I suck at it and want to get better.
 
PHATchik said:
Of that whole post, of course you would pick that part out. lol.
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did you expect anything less from me? ;)

Taps said:
Does anyone have any running-specific routienes that they follow? Whats the best way to increase endurance/stamina?

Running is damn effective, but I suck at it and want to get better.
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i took up roller blading for a few months, actually more like roller hockey. playing a few times a week really helped me out with running. we were pretty intense when we played. i wasn't training at the time though, so i don't know anything else you could do.
 
Taps said:
Does anyone have any running-specific routienes that they follow? Whats the best way to increase endurance/stamina?

Running is damn effective, but I suck at it and want to get better.
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Oh yeah, that's right. We wanted a routine. I forgot.
 
I prefer doing something to keep my mind more occupied for my cardio, such as shooting hoops. If that's not possible I like to run through town, as it makes it seem like I'm running faster, or time is going by faster.
 
Yoga is much better for you and than running all though I do it all as part of a crosstraining routine. How you might ask some people think of yoga as simple stretching, but if you tense the opposing muscle tightly as you are stretching you in effect doing eccentric work on that muscle and concentric work of the muscle your stretcing hence, weightlifting like routine that incorporates far more muscle fibers than free weights. If you continue my logic, running is just another form of yoga, as is weightlifting, so in essence, they are limited forms of yoga that only train the body to adapt to certain movements which, is somewhat illogical from whole body perspective. Whereas full body yoga trains the whole body depending the speed and degree of muscle tension incorporated, so in fact, there really is just type1 or type, slow fast twitch muscle fibers, but just an effectual result of the type of training the muscle is subjected to. What Im saying is that since most people choose either aerobic training and others divided into anaerobic training and since statistics will omit anything out along the bell curve. Then naturally the experts will draw that their is subclassification of muscle which they name slow or fast, but they are not totally correct and theyre disctinction between cardiac, skeletal or smooth muscle is incorrect. I work in cardiovascular medicine and I am an expert on muscle and the use of ultrasound so I can actually see different muscle responses to the type of work it does. That is muscle composition is not the cause, but the effect of the work that is needed and vice versa. THat is how tissue shapes is formed. Just look at the formation of the heart and how a single loop of tissue folds onto itself and forms chambers and such. That all of us in just loops wrapped in loops, circles and such based on a genitc code that can changed to expresses different genetic encoding. All of this is based on genetics, but genetics is a two way street, it has to be as logic would dictate and that not only does evolution take place, but intergeneration adaptation is passed on from muscle/skeletal interaction with the environment, hence explaining the vast amount of biodiversity. You see every action has a reaction and hence every movement influences all which it comes in contact with infinite reactions rippling through the body like waves on a pond, eventually influencing the very DNA that was the original message. That is why there is DNA fade with cloning and why we may change our very dna on a certain level too small to measure with current methods. Thus evolution is not inclusive enough and what we rely to teach basics Anatomy and physiology is too basic at higher levels of thought. B/c most only take the basics and do not think any more past that and then build arguments and hypotheses based on limited analytical thought. Hence most research in this field is on a basic level and hence that is why research is moving so slowly towards finding cures for diseases. THat is the flaw in our research society. ANd Yoga logic dictates, is the best form of exercise, whether you call it Variable(running, walking, lifting, eating, crying, laughter, sex, everything) its all the same, training the body to adapt and release feel good endorphins/dopamine etc... Thats my argument!
 
good point on altering our own biological shematic

I agree but running will get you there faster

that and three other practices

the other three practices were handed to me by a dying breed of teacher, and till I perfect it I will never tell any one

and even then

I will only share its tools with the agents of light
 
OMEGA said:
good point on altering our own biological shematic

I agree but running will get you there faster

that and three other practices

the other three practices were handed to me by a dying breed of teacher, and till I perfect it I will never tell any one

and even then

I will only share its tools with the agents of light
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Greeting Omega, Sounds like you also subscribe to the Zen church of light as do I. And funny I call where I ended up on my spiritual journey the Omega Plateau. Nice to meet more Intelligent life here. I would be curious as to your secrets as I have many of my own, but Im more liberal to share them, b/c the interaction of sharing them brings me more profound secrets. Call it the ultimate mental Karma :rainbow: :rainbow:
 
OMEGA said:
hello :)


Awww, I too recently ended up in this reality. I went to the end the plateau I call Omega and am now travelling in reverse. I have been more liberal with what I share as to resonate my thoughts providing more power to my resonance. THe more I share the stronger My vibrations are allowing me to jump further with more knowledge gained on my journey. As I stated in a different thread Omega plateau is where I touched the face of god, nowhere to go but in reverse, but in fact im going further as Logic dictates
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hello :)

the source of all my Knowledge comes not from me at all, I mean that.
it seems to come from elswhere, at least the true "knowlegde" I have

there in information then there is "knowledge"

many have information few have the latter......

though few relative only to this phase of time

My knowledge seems to come form one source and compassionate, happy, and caring singularity


though the singularity has agents that are of a sentiant and compassionate in nature as well, but they serve

and they do so for they love the sigularity


it is GOD I feel


I am not mature or tempered enough to share, and must discipline myself infinatly more before any sharing

these tool are weapons

and they will be needed

for you never know what may happen when you share with the wrong group

and I have found it to be true that a very small percentage of the cosmos truly detest God, bueaty, and creation though their realm only lies in the seen and physical

they are outcast yet have primary power here

and no I am not kidding I have run into them already,

false teacher, prosecutor, practicers of magic, those that hurt, defilers

though they may have dexterity in this realm they are also slaves to it


they fear me already and I have seen the best of them, and if they fear me now just wait, my strength builds every moment through night to day, through sleep and wake

I encourage the conflict with them as well, for it just gives me more info to triangulate every advantage they may have here, and I am not alone, a whole warrior class ahs landed, and at least for this epoch you will be outnumbered......

and God still loved these creatures even though they chose to deflile him

I am not that strong to love them, I can't for they have caused to much pain
 
BrothaBill said:
As I stated in a different thread Omega plateau is where I touched the face of god, nowhere to go but in reverse, but in fact im going further as Logic dictates
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your traveling too linearly
there are at least 5 other places you have not been so I surmise :)


they are all wonderfull

2 are painfull

and God wont want to send you to 2 of them for he sees us as child, and no father want to see child in pain even in discipline
 
I hear you brotha, but I urge you to reconsider your worry, as the creator as we are all are in our own reality, we have the ultimate power to choose our own reality, take the good and reject the bad. I resonate with the good and when I share it makes me more powerful, if they try to use it against me, I then reject b/c I have thought infinite thoughts prior to them and therefore I am the creator of them and none of their thoughts are their own, ownly reflections of my thoughts for I have already thought of them, as I have created them. I have no reason to harm those who are my own creation, and since they cant harm I have no reason to fear them, Only love them and show them the path. Its their decision to follow, to take that leap of faith. ALL I give them is option. Its always their choice as is yours, always is...
 
I repectfully agree with some themes you make but deeper I wish to share more and may be able to show you what I see

may be of interest


I love the fact that your on the Journey

what a gloriuos road ahead

so happy to see another brother

havoc is on the path as well as are handfull of others

we are all well loved
 
OMEGA said:
your traveling too linearly
there are at least 5 other places you have not been so I surmise :)


they are all wonderfull

2 are painfull

and God wont want to send you to 2 of them for he sees us as child, and no father want to see child in pain even in discipline
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I hear ya, surmise is not the best thing to do with this limited form of communication. There are in fact, infinite places and I have been to many describe in this format with this language, but my journey continues as all can be painful if you believe they are, but its a matter of perspective brotha. We experience all b/c our soul must experience it, we choose what we want to make of our experience, without the bad, there can be no good... so its all good brotha Omega!
 
OMEGA said:
I repectfully agree with some themes you make but deeper I wish to share more and may be able to show you what I see

may be of interest


I love the fact that your on the Journey

what a gloriuos road ahead

so happy to see another brother

havoc is on the path as well as are handfull of others

we are all well loved
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Yes, we should meet brotha, share our knowledge I have much to show you as well. The amplication of our resonance will bring propel us much farther after we share. Have you unlocked your joints and vertebrae yet sort of making a human tuning fork. I accomplished this on my journey, this allows me to create magnetic fields. I can show you how.
 
Havoc is always a reality, depends on which reality you jump to, but bringing heaven on earth is alway a possibility and the havoc is a means to that end. As it will occur in infinite realities, worrying about it is illogical as it is already a forgone conclusion. But it just a means to an end, a glorious end, never forget its all you believe it is, all what you make it, so it can never be bad unless you believe its bad. Take the good forget the bad and that will guide you through any PERCEIVED travails.
 
velvett said:
Indoors.

Allergies - the outdoors are evil.
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Im a supporter of the darwinist termination of allergic people. please dig a hole, put a bag over your head and stand on the edge facing the hole and wait for me to return.
 
PHATchik said:
For those of you who actually run, do you prefer indoors or out? This can even be meant as treadmill vs. just running anywhere. Last night after I worked out, I decided to run on the treadmill for my cardio. Now, I hate running, but it's good for you, so I decided to give it a whirl. While it was a big change from my normal cycling, I felt really good after I did it. My question is do you think it's easier doing it on a treadmill or running on a track/free run?
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Kudos to you for taking up running. Indoor or out, treadmill or not. Most folks don't like it because it is hard. A lot harder than sitting on a bike or stepper. If your body can withstand the stress I think you will see great results. I try to allow a recovery day in between. (run-lift-run, etc).

Good luck!
 
Brothabill that post on yoga was garbage. It doesn't influence DNA sequqnces, or i should say that the effect is so infinitesimal that it would take centuries for a DNA to remodulate due adapatation - that is what is called evolution, and no 'rppling and waves' don't cause it. Yoga - bleh :rainbow:

Secondly, what's the point of going off on a tangent in explaining muscle classification to then conclude that Yoga is supposedly the best type of training which has the same body feedback response as cardiovascular excercise - that's nonsense. Just sitting and stretching won't do much for neurotransmitter uptake and firing :o
 
juve said:
Brothabill that post on yoga was garbage. It doesn't influence DNA sequqnces, or i should say that the effect is so infinitesimal that it would take centuries for a DNA to remodulate due adapatation - that is what is called evolution, and no 'rppling and waves' don't cause it. Yoga - bleh :rainbow:

Secondly, what's the point of going off on a tangent in explaining muscle classification to then conclude that Yoga is supposedly the best type of training which has the same body feedback response as cardiovascular excercise - that's nonsense. Just sitting and stretching won't do much for neurotransmitter uptake and firing :o
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If you'd read my post carefully I Explain that yoga is a form of running, yes I explain your objections due to the speed and muscle tenseness involved in it all it takes is the ability to concentrate, something it appears you lack b/c I stated that running actually falls under the definition of yoga. Did you skip that part due to your inability to concentrate? Inability to follow logical thought. My question for you mr evolution is if every action has a reaction and everything is related in the body where do the waves of energy go, suddenly they just DISAPPEAR, how can you logically explain that? A simple mind you have indeed. Disregarding logic with a simple "bleh". Perhaps youd spend better time reading and searching genetics like I have and then try to come up better alternative explanation as to body mechanics and its effects on dna sequencing or you can ask my sister who has a PHd in molecular biology, either way it may help you open that pitiful tiny closed mind of yours. I responded with knowledge it is you that went off on a tangent with no useful information at all, how is that logical?? :mix: :mix: :worried:
 
ttlpkg said:
Kudos to you for taking up running. Indoor or out, treadmill or not. Most folks don't like it because it is hard. A lot harder than sitting on a bike or stepper. If your body can withstand the stress I think you will see great results. I try to allow a recovery day in between. (run-lift-run, etc).

Good luck!
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Thanks. It's just going t be interesting seeing how much my body really can take. I already have bad knees. :(

And Omega & Brothabill, poo on you both for hijacking my thread! :chomp: :)
 
PHATchik said:
Thanks. It's just going t be interesting seeing how much my body really can take. I already have bad knees. :(

And Omega & Brothabill, poo on you both for hijacking my thread! :chomp: :)
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My sincerest apologies. My advice on running is to start on monday 3 miles
Tues~1-2 miles fast pace
Wed~ 3 miles comfortably
thurs 1-2 miles fast or speed work at the track
Fri~ 3 miles
Sat~ rest
Sun long run~ 6 miles long, slow pace. Add a mile per week to 10 miles or more
Increase speed and length of runs consistently every week and most important is to stretch afterwards several times in the hours after you run. Basic running strategy and you can increase distances and vary the routine all the way up to preparing for a marathon. Just my two cents! Congrats on the idea of running. Believe a few weeks of this, and youre feet wont even feel like theyre touching the ground, itll be effortless!!
 
BrothaBill said:
My sincerest apologies. My advice on running is to start on monday 3 miles
Tues~1-2 miles fast pace
Wed~ 3 miles comfortably
thurs 1-2 miles fast or speed work at the track
Fri~ 3 miles
Sat~ rest
Sun long run~ 6 miles long, slow pace. Add a mile per week to 10 miles or more
Increase speed and length of runs consistently every week and most important is to stretch afterwards several times in the hours after you run. Basic running strategy and you can increase distances and vary the routine all the way up to preparing for a marathon. Just my two cents! Congrats on the idea of running. Believe a few weeks of this, and youre feet wont even feel like theyre touching the ground, itll be effortless!!
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Now was that so hard? :)
 
PHATchik said:
Now was that so hard? :)
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hahahaha! as a matter of fact it was! I actually had to concentrate to remember, the other stuff I dont even think it just comes out.. of me arse. That stuff came from the Gray matter in my arse. :p
 
PHATchik said:
Thanks. It's just going t be interesting seeing how much my body really can take. I already have bad knees. :(

And Omega & Brothabill, poo on you both for hijacking my thread! :chomp: :)
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Do you have flat feet?? I thought I had bad knees for awhile, but it ended up being my duck like feet putting strain on them..

Bought some New Balance shoes for arch support and all that stuff, now me knees don't hurt at all.

Also try running trails or something other than hard ass concrete roads or sidewalks.
 
juve said:
Brothabill that post on yoga was garbage. It doesn't influence DNA sequqnces, or i should say that the effect is so infinitesimal that it would take centuries for a DNA to remodulate due adapatation - that is what is called evolution, and no 'rppling and waves' don't cause it. Yoga - bleh :rainbow: o
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without sounding gay

I love JUVE!!! :)


he is goingto do lots of good work in this world

I know it!

and only 19 man

out of site

your going to be a force

just try to controll you sefl

abd Brother Bill speak to him with care he is a good guy (Juve)
 
juve said:
Secondly, what's the point of going off on a tangent in explaining muscle classification to then conclude that Yoga is supposedly the best type of training which has the same body feedback response as cardiovascular excercise - that's nonsense. Just sitting and stretching won't do much for neurotransmitter uptake and firing :o
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My only only "prob" wiht Yoga (sorry Brother Bill)

is it propensity for self worship,

Lots of Yogis think they are God like, and tend to try to build accult followings to lead people away form the path and possibly use them

not the pratice of Yoga, just the scene around it in CA at least

The Bikrham Yoga guru I met on accident at my gym once

Tried to figure me out do to my energy signature, I am an anomoly, then he tried to mess with me with his feeble mind wich is only connected to himself, his students and dark selfish energies

lets just say I gave him a present :) with my mind


this is part of the vengeance I have

you really want to use you false teaching on other to drain their energy and lead me astray

fine "try it on me" I say

" here my back is turned, go ahead"



I hate this process and love it at the same time

I hate the conflict but love that I serve and can clean house
 
OMEGA said:
without sounding gay

I love JUVE!!! :)


he is goingto do lots of good work in this world

I know it!

and only 19 man

out of site

your going to be a force

just try to controll you sefl

abd Brother Bill speak to him with care he is a good guy (Juve)
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I only mirror the animous that is directed at me, that is what I do, if I am spoken to care, then that is what I return...I know he is a good guy, but even a good guy can have the propensity to challenge the unchallengable. So with that said, I am just trying to expand his definition of yoga, as it can be as broad as one's mind and simple as one too.
 
OMEGA said:
My only only "prob" wiht Yoga (sorry Brother Bill)

is it propensity for self worship,

Lots of Yogis think they are God like, and tend to try to build accult followings to lead people away form the path and possibly use them

not the pratice of Yoga, just the scene around it in CA at least

The Bikrham Yoga guru I met on accident at my gym once

Tried to figure me out do to my energy signature, I am an anomoly, then he tried to mess with me with his feeble mind wich is only connected to himself, his students and dark selfish energies

lets just say I gave him a present :) with my mind


this is part of the vengeance I have

you really want to use you false teaching on other to drain their energy and lead me astray

fine "try it on me" I say

" here my back is turned, go ahead"



I hate this process and love it at the same time

I hate the conflict but love that I serve and can clean house
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Sure, I understand, but it is only up to the observer to place ones own definition on the practice. And if they use to corrupt it is only up to the those who follow with their observation, be it good or bad experience, they gain infinite knowledge from the experience. Take the good for get the bad. Yoga is what ever you make it, the basic definition is exercise which will bring your mind at peace with concept of ZEN or knowing nothing,which must be included in the whole truth. The right is not right if it does not include the wrong.
I have faced similar challenges by people, only instead of mirror and escalate as you have chosen, I just mirror and explain, eventually they can no longer mirror my logic and then they learn from me bringing me closer to stronger resonance making me that much more powerful for my journey. For it is the act of giving that returns so much to me. The ultimate karma. I need not need to win or take away someones philosophy, I do not need that for my ego, I am satisfied with my knowledge and so stealing theirs detracts from my energy and limits my journey. It is more logical to me to teach that to detract. Not meant to be harsh, but just my insight, all is good brotha.
 
we have variantce in our chosen paths


so at first we may disagree but through definition of terms, and care we shall both see we are far more alike than not alike :)
 
OMEGA said:
we have variantce in our chosen paths


so at first we may disagree but through definition of terms, and care we shall both see we are far more alike than not alike :)
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Exactly, I agree at some point we all converge and you are the closest I have found in this reality that understands what Im saying, so much closer than anyone else brotha
 
BrothaBill said:
Exactly, I agree at some point we all converge and you are the closest I have found in this reality that understands what Im saying, so much closer than anyone else brotha
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hey man we are all in this together all of us :)

I have to say its really good to see somone as advanced as you, it makes me hopfull that I will develop more



question:

what is the purpose of strength in you minds eye?

just suriuos
 
OMEGA said:
hey man we are all in this together all of us :)

I have to say its really good to see somone as advanced as you, it makes me hopfull that I will develop more



question:

what is the purpose of strength in you minds eye?

just suriuos
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To gain infinite understanding of the infinite knowledge that is innate in all of us, The answer is within all of us, always has been. Words are just variables and so by strength(variable) I take it to mean the ability to make peace and therefore be at peace. The strength to be at peace, the stronger I am the more peaceful I am. The more peaceful I am the more fine tuned my vertebrae are and my ability to resonate is stronger, vibrating the world if I like. WHich I can do, if I focus on its frequency and reverberate it through me, Shaking the world with one focused thought!
 
OMEGA said:
out standing! :)
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yes, yes now you have your next journey~~~~ to shake the world with one thought, its possible, I have done it and can show you!
 
Brother Bill I have to opt out now

need to go on a juorney, take care

and nice to meet you

and good luck with more


I am far away from my ablities

and unfortunaltly training alone has always been my method

sorry :(

but we should talk form time to time
 
chaos mage said:
Hey brothabill, if I send you a thought will you be able to tell me what that thought is?
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No, you thought that, thats what Im saying, that you thought he cant do that and that is thoughts you were thinking so how can I pick out a singlephrase out of infinite thoughts?
 
outdoors. indoors so... ugh. besides, i feel like a moron on the treadmills, takes me more time to get one running than doing the actual exercise.
 
BrothaBill said:
No, you thought that, thats what Im saying, that you thought he cant do that and that is thoughts you were thinking so how can I pick out a singlephrase out of infinite thoughts?
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I have witnessed certain people do it, I believed maybe you could... an image thought
 
chaos mage said:
I have witnessed certain people do it, I believed maybe you could... an image thought
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You misread, I should have put quotes on my last thought read...Yes I can, thats simple
 
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