Running hcg during your cycles.

[needtogetaas]

I think its a great idea. Why wait till your cycle is over to get the boys back.
How ever a lot of people even myself have been saying to stop the hcg when the cycle stops. This has worked for almost every one but I think we should all start going one step better.

Why stop the hcg when the cycle stops? Long esters are still in the body long after the cycle. Some compounds like eq up to 3 weeks. I think it would be best to start hcg mid cycle and keep it going up until pct.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I think its a great idea. Why wait till your cycle is over to get the boys back.
How ever a lot of people even myself have been saying to stop the hcg when the cycle stops. This has worked for almost every one but I think we should all start going one step better.

Why stop the hcg when the cycle stops? Long esters are still in the body long after the cycle. Some compounds like eq up to 3 weeks. I think it would be best to start hcg mid cycle and keep it going up until pct.

I have experience the best recovery this way. I agree I don't think there is a need to start it right way.

 

[splperformance]

I think its a great idea. Why wait till your cycle is over to get the boys back.
How ever a lot of people even myself have been saying to stop the hcg when the cycle stops. This has worked for almost every one but I think we should all start going one step better.

Why stop the hcg when the cycle stops? Long esters are still in the body long after the cycle. Some compounds like eq up to 3 weeks. I think it would be best to start hcg mid cycle and keep it going up until pct.

you bring up a very good point...if we stop HCG on our last week, we still have gear working its way out of the body so 1/2 way through the cycle and ending once PCT starts seems like a much better idea

 

[motiondo]

Is the point of waiting until mid-cycle due to the fact that you believe that the HCG any earlier is basically not doing yo any good...? It seems to me like you wait due to signs of atrophy or because a specified period is passing and it just makes sense, maybe, but I'm only specualting, it seems from all that I've read on HCG here and via google - that as long as you have not exceeded a recommended dose per week, or become desensitized to the HCG from over extended use, that there can't be much acquired but benefits from the use of HCG, especially sense you basically begin surpressing from the very first day you begin a cycle. IS this not logical or am I missing something here?
Though I totally agree that continuing the use of HCG past the last injection because of the lasting esters - only makes the better sense logically speaking - to run it as long as the higher concentration is continuing to supress.

 

[searay]

no real science to this one. i also think it would depend on what, how much, and the length of ur cycle. going 12 wks of a gram of test would require a different approach than evn half that dose at the same length. a gram is gonna shut you down quicker and harder/longer than 500mg. it would seem to make sense that at a gram you would start the hcg maybe 3-4 wks in vs half way in. and you may want to continue use for maybe 2 wks longer at a higher dose after the end of ur cycle and maybe even into your pct at higher doses.

 

[needtogetaas]

Is the point of waiting until mid-cycle due to the fact that you believe that the HCG any earlier is basically not doing yo any good...? It seems to me like you wait due to signs of atrophy or because a specified period is passing and it just makes sense, maybe, but I'm only specualting, it seems from all that I've read on HCG here and via google - that as long as you have not exceeded a recommended dose per week, or become desensitized to the HCG from over extended use, that there can't be much acquired but benefits from the use of HCG, especially sense you basically begin surpressing from the very first day you begin a cycle. IS this not logical or am I missing something here?

depending on cycle length thats when you have to think about when to start it. So you do not get desensitized but also end at the right time.

 

[motiondo]

depending on cycle length thats when you have to think about when to start it. So you do not get desensitized but also end at the right time.

Yeah, of course youre right about this Needto: because length and dose is going to effect whether or not you are on HCG long enough to become desensitized...

 

[jaybois]

depending on cycle length thats when you have to think about when to start it. So you do not get desensitized but also end at the right time.

What doses and lenth of hcg use would cause desensatation?

 

[all the whey]

depending on cycle length thats when you have to think about when to start it. So you do not get desensitized but also end at the right time.

My hrt dr said getting desenitized to hcg is not as big of a deal as people say.


I have taken 250iu twice a week for 3 yrs. and never was shut down.

 

[enacer420nj]

I was planning on starting HCG mid cycle maybe around week 5 or so for my 16 week cycle, I am stopping EQ at week 14 and continuing on with test for 2 more weeks..needless to say I should probably run some throughout PCT which will probably consist of clomid and dermacrine...any thoughts on dosages or when levels will drop and i can cease hcg use?

 

[all the whey]

I was planning on starting HCG mid cycle maybe around week 5 or so for my 16 week cycle, I am stopping EQ at week 14 and continuing on with test for 2 more weeks..needless to say I should probably run some throughout PCT which will probably consist of clomid and dermacrine...any thoughts on dosages or when levels will drop and i can cease hcg use?

250iu to 500iu all the way through cycle.

 

[needtogetaas]

What doses and lenth of hcg use would cause desensatation?

I have seen studies showing even more then 2 weeks at high doses can cause desensatation. I have been looking and looking for something in a study. Thats about prolonged low doses but have come up lacking. Even at a low dose I would not run it longer then 16 weeks. I still think thats pushing it to. If you were running a 16 weeks cycle Which for most people more then likely you would be running eq. Then You would want to start some where before compleet shut down and and be able to stop around when the esters clear. So it would also depend on what else you were running.

Lets take he cycle stated below my post.

1-16 test-e
1-14 eq
eq will clear around week 17 so it would make sense to be running the hcg till week 18 right? You want to start before compleet shut down happens. Lets say for this cycle thats going to be around week 3-4 right? So start hcg around week 4 and go till week 18 thats 14 weeks hcg at a low dose that seems fine to me. Its also right before pct and you can just roll right into pct.

makes sense to me at least in theory. If any one cares to chime in please do.

 

[jaybois]

I have seen studies showing even more then 2 weeks at high doses can cause desensatation. I have been looking and looking for something in a study. Thats about prolonged low doses but have come up lacking. Even at a low dose I would not run it longer then 16 weeks. I still think thats pushing it to. If you were running a 16 weeks cycle Which for most people more then likely you would be running eq. Then You would want to start some where before compleet shut down and and be able to stop around when the esters clear. So it would also depend on what else you were running.

Lets take he cycle stated below my post.

1-16 test-e
1-14 eq
eq will clear around week 17 so it would make sense to be running the hcg till week 18 right? You want to start before compleet shut down happens. Lets say for this cycle thats going to be around week 3-4 right? So start hcg around week 4 and go till week 18 thats 14 weeks hcg at a low dose that seems fine to me. Its also right before pct and you can just roll right into pct.

makes sense to me at least in theory. If any one cares to chime in please do.

Makes sense thanks.

 

[thebadguy54]

How does the HCG here look?

Week 1-8 - T E @ 500mg EW
Week 3-8 - Anavar @ 60mg ED
Week 6-9 - H CG @ 250iu's 2x EW
Week 10 -12 - Clomid @ 50mg ED
Derma Sustain

Should I also run HCG in week 10??

 

[needtogetaas]

How does the HCG here look?

Week 1-8 - T E @ 500mg EW
Week 3-8 - Anavar @ 60mg ED
Week 6-9 - H CG @ 250iu's 2x EW
Week 10 -12 - Clomid @ 50mg ED
Derma Sustain

Should I also run HCG in week 10??

I would. I also don't like test-e for only 8 weeks to. But to each his own.

 

[lovemoney]

depending on cycle length thats when you have to think about when to start it. So you do not get desensitized but also end at the right time.

what if u are one all year long what would the hcg regimine look like?

 

[needtogetaas]

what if u are one all year long what would the hcg regimine look like?

Well if you plain to stay on that long I think you should just stay on for ever. Then there is no need for hcg.

How ever I know a lot Of people who run year long cycle or really long ones. What I have seen them do is run 4-6 week burst of hcg threw out the cycle.

 

[jimmy04]

my last cycle i ran hcg wk 4-10 2 wks off every thing then back on hcg and tamoxifen for post cors at 500ius e3d 3wks 20mg ed 4wks. dont realy know how it will work, 1st time doing it this way

 

[lovemoney]

Well if you plain to stay on that long I think you should just stay on for ever. Then there is no need for hcg.

How ever I know a lot Of people who run year long cycle or really long ones. What I have seen them do is run 4-6 week burst of hcg threw out the cycle.

thanks needto,very helpful,how long do u think inbetween each hcg burst?

 

[thebadguy54]

I would. I also don't like test-e for only 8 weeks to. But to each his own.

I'll add it to week 10.

I don't like 8 weeks of Test E either, but I had to do it this way so I can be done PCT, recovered and back on for July, Aug and Sept.

 

[needtogetaas]

thanks needto,very helpful,how long do u think inbetween each hcg burst?

4-6 weeks. I would go with a time on time of thing.

 

[needtogetaas]

Good thread.