Rumsfeld's speech

[Testosterone boy]

Re: Re: Rumsfeld's speech

I may not agree with a war against Iraq but when you're in such a powerful position as the US are, you don't really need a reason or the green light by any country...

Agreed...but isn't that like me saying that I'm 6'5" and strong so I'll do what I want to a smaller guy? There is still accountabiltiy.

A lot of people are going to die if we invade Iraq. A country that isn't totally corrupted will explore alternatives to a logical extent. I, for one, don't feel that we have been able to present a compelling case to invade Iraq right now.

If Hussein is cornered and has nothing to lose, there is an excellent chance that the losses will be legendary.

I'm not opposed to an invasion of Iraq, I just need some very compelling reasons to do so other than he MAY have nuclear capabilities in 6-12 months. His motivation for wanting nuclear capabilities has been Iran. Even Hussein knows better than to go toe to toe with the US in a nuclear battle.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Another thing...we chase Osama and come up empty handed. How will it look if we tear Iraq apart and come up empty handed?
What if we win then some terrorists hit us with weapons of mass destruction as payback? That Saddam supplied when he realized he would lose everything.

 

[thebabydoc]

Test boy:
You need to get a grip on your estrogen levels because you are talking like a pussy- try some Clomid or Novaldex.

"Weapons of mass destruction as payback"? Have you seen any attacks of any sort since 9/11, since we obliterated their "hideouts"?
It is because they are in complete and utter disarray and there are no funds available anywhere or anyone who would dare touch them to help them stage any such attacks. Believe me, just look at the little Anthrax prank we had... it is easy to obtain, use, and spread biological and chemical weapons if you have them. The goal here is to PREVENT them from ever getting their hands on them. There is NO DOUBT or ARGUMENT that ANY ARAB nation would not hesitate to use these weapons should they obtain them; Sadam's sending scuds towards Israel is a prime example. So long as we keep grinding them down and on the retreat, they will never be able to organize enough to do significant damage.

As for "A lot of people are going to die if we invade Iraq" that is true. Fortunately, as the Gulf War proved, it's pretty much gonna be 100% Iraqui's.

And lastly, no, there is no accountability on our part. That's the fact, Jack. We can do as we please and even if the entire world got together, there is not thing one they could do about it.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Test boy:
You need to get a grip on your estrogen levels because you are talking like a pussy- try some Clomid or Novaldex.


Well at least I know that you a doc now. I think arrogance is about the first thing they require.

"No reasonable person wants a war." Donald Rumsfeld 9/27/02

I am on clomid BTW.

Guess doing abortions desensitizes one?

 

[thebabydoc]

Well at least I know that you a doc now. I think arrogance is about the first thing they require.

"No reasonable person wants a war." Donald Rumsfeld 9/27/02

I am on clomid BTW.

Guess doing abortions desensitizes one?

1. It's not arrogance, it's knowledge and experience. Yes, me a doc. You a ???

2. It's not a war, it's a simple ass-whoopin'. BTW, those words by Rumsfeld are so out of context I couldn't even begin to comment except to say that his very next word was "...but"

3. Abortions sensitize me to the pain that young women feel in making one of the most difficult decisions in their entire lives. I also deliver babies, you douchebag, 32 this month so far. And yesterday, I spent 30 minutes talking one of my established patients through and out of an abortion that she wasn't quite sure she wanted while 6 other patients waited for me. I provide a service without judgement to women who need empathy and understanding rather than judgement and condemnation.

What great service is it that you provide to this planet (other than using up our supply of AS) that allows you to feel the need/right to comment on my profession, you methane-expelling penis receptacle?

 

[JohnyJuice]

Please. Anyone who is against invading Iraq (and the rest of the middle east for that matter) is a fucking moron. It is just a matter of time before they manage to get their shit together and fuck stuff up. I am a big believer in the motto "an ounce of prevention is worth a pund of cure." Gwet that through your heads. Why did no one fuck with us after ww2 until the seventies? Because they knew that if you fucked with America, you had your ass handed to you. That all stopped come the 70's, once the tree hugger faggot ass liberals took hold of our press and Government. Do you think it is a coincedence that as this country began becoming more liberal, things went to shit?

 

[Testosterone boy]

1. It's not arrogance, it's knowledge and experience. Yes, me a doc. You a ???

2. It's not a war, it's a simple ass-whoopin'. BTW, those words by Rumsfeld are so out of context I couldn't even begin to comment except to say that his very next word was "...but"

3. Abortions sensitize me to the pain that young women feel in making one of the most difficult decisions in their entire lives. I also deliver babies, you douchebag, 32 this month so far. And yesterday, I spent 30 minutes talking one of my established patients through and out of an abortion that she wasn't quite sure she wanted while 6 other patients waited for me. I provide a service without judgement to women who need empathy and understanding rather than judgement and condemnation.

What great service is it that you provide to this planet (other than using up our supply of AS) that allows you to feel the need/right to comment on my profession, you methane-expelling penis receptacle?

I'm someone who spent two years plotting the assassination of an MD. Bought dozens of guns and read dozens of reloading books and ...... i don't like you, get the picture.

 

[thebabydoc]

Come and get it, asshole. Obviously your 2 years were wasted as the hippocrite who succeeded in killing Schleppian has already been caught.

 

[JohnyJuice]

Abortion is not the topic here. Arguing over whether it is right and wrong will just spin inot mayhem. This topic will never have a total agreement (like how all of society believes that rape is wrong). I personally think abortion is terrible and shouldnt happen, but i feel it is a neccessary evil, and i feel pity for those who are faced with that choice. The job of a physician is to perform his patients the medical attention they require or desire, not to pass judgement on the individual. They inform and give advice. The babaydoc is being a professional about his work, and that is admorable.

 

[gymnpoppa]

It seems those hankering for war, are the ones who dodged service time years ago. And the generals who've fought wars, are opposed.


Using the logic on this thread, (and that of the Shrubs.....Saddam can't wait to attack us......well, what's keeping him? If he's already got what they keep rehashing from old intelligence reports, and questionable defectors, why hasn't he attacked?

Why hasn't he launched these weapons and taken over the M East?


It's funny how this administration uses the most vague, uncorroborated intelligence, to bolster it's claims, yet the same intelligence failed horribly prior to Sept 11th.

I keep hearing the same lameass......he used gas on his own people, well, the shit came from us, why don't they tell the whole story?

He used the weapons on the Kurds, and the Iranians, and we did nothing, except assist him.....gave him satellite pics, helicopters, and other support to help defeat the Iranians....

Yet, none of the "objective" media in this country mentions our part in this work.

Of course the public will be influenced by this type of vague, unsubtantiated propoganda, if the same people, (shrubs) keep saying the same thing over and over. At least the dumbasses who don't have a clue, or the intelligence to do some research, or those who have never served in the military......overseas in the M E.

It's easy, do live, emotional rhetoric-filled press conferences, weekly, sometimes daily...........offer the crappy insinuations, duck your head when someone asks for actual proof, or avoid the question altogether by changing the subject to the typical good vs evil rhetoric, then continously conduct and post slanted polls to gauge the effectiveness, and the ignorance of the public.

Oh, I almost forgot, if ANYONE, questions you too much, label them a liberal, or unpatriotic, or accuse them of dividing the country.

continously post analysts on all the major news outlets to back your dubious claims, only deal with media that will prescript the questions, which you pre-approve. Do not make appearances where you might be questioned unscripted.


Presto, you've got a case for whatever you're doing..........such as the incubator story that influenced the votes of SEVEN skeptical senators in the first Gulf War.......................