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roids for a 155lbs guy?

Hi.
Would it be a bad idea to start taking ("weak") roids at 155lbs when you started to work out at 120lbs and have gained 35lbs?
Sometimes i hear you should only start taking roids when you can't gain no more naturally. but what if i only wanna get to let's say 200lbs (which i would probably be able to gain naturally) but not wanna wait too long. would roids be worse than when i hit my natural limit and start taking roids then?
 
What I would really like to know is how the hell are you supposed to know when you have reached your natural limit? I mean just because you plateau and aren't making gains anymore doesn't mean you are at you genetic ceiling. There are tons of factors that could be hindering/halting gains...
 
perrrrsonally, i will be taking roids before my genetic limit. but not before i learned much about EVERYTHING. and not before putting on over 45 lbs and squatting over 450.
but that's just me, some would disagree

to answer your question, i would not take roids at 155 , unless you were very short (5'3 or sumthin
 
what's the reason? why wouldn't you take roids at 155? what's so bad about it? will my limits be lowered down or something?

and what if i would get to 170lbs? i'd have gained 50lbs naturally then. would that be "enough" to take roids?
 
Depends on how old he is also. How old are you anyway? If you have not reached your genetic potential because of your age, then I would say,"Stay Away for now." But, if you have reached your genetic limitations and you are of a good age, then I see no reason to start as long as you RESEARCH the hell out of it. Make sure this is where you want to go with it. Rarely does anyone just do 1 cycle of, how did you put it,"Weak Roids", lol. Can't be weak if they work. All roids have there good points and bad, regardless of how weak or strong they are. Just some food for thought.
 
well, i just got 18. maybe i should wait another half a year or so, but that's what i was probably going to do anyway and yes, i would do a lot of research before i start taking it.
 
skinnyfromtoptobottom said:
what's the reason? why wouldn't you take roids at 155? what's so bad about it? will my limits be lowered down or something?

and what if i would get to 170lbs? i'd have gained 50lbs naturally then. would that be "enough" to take roids?

you asked the question and they answered what the way they felt. don't even try and get sassy in this board. you should be thanking bros for there help, not contradicting them.
 
Bro, if you just turned 18 wait at least a year you should really waity until your 20 but I would be a hyprocrite cause I started at 19. Try for another 10 poounds at least, you will benefit from the juice that much more once you put on some more size.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
Mad Max said:
Bro, if you just turned 18 wait at least a year you should really waity until your 20 but I would be a hyprocrite cause I started at 19. Try for another 10 poounds at least, you will benefit from the juice that much more once you put on some more size.
---PEACE---Mad Max
I would agree with Mad Max, wait at least until you are 20. But then again I have seen people still grow naturally after 20. You know your body better than anyone else. You will be aware of when you have reached your genetic extremes naturally. For example, Just because you are not gaining weight dose not mean that you are not developing. Look at your program as a whole, Diet, Rest, Excercise, Endurance. Bro, I grew naturally well until I was 23.

Remember, the strongest part of a building is its foundation. A good foundation is key in bodybuilding.
 
Its some girl from a website. I think someone posted the website over on the chat board. A shitload of hot girl prettty young though.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
First off I started after lifting 3 years and weighed 155 I am 5'4. I also have competed lightweight at a weight of 164 and under. So from that stance weight has nothing to do with it as I started and weighed 109 in high school 122 when I started lifting and took the time to grow naturally before juicing for the first time at age 27 as I recall. I now weigh natural 180 so again it shows the hard work i did before the juice and it also shows how the juice moved my " natural" bodyweight and physique to where it now is. Though I stopped lifting and juicing I still look like a bodybuilder again from all of the hard work to build my base ebfore drugs.
 
Weight is not the issue, it is your age. You are 18, you is to your advantage as you have shitload of testosterone flowing in your body. Train hard and smart, eat well, rest plenty. Don't cut corners now, I'd say give yourself at least 2-3 years.
Good luck.
 
i would wait to early 20's, but if you really want to do it, you'll probably do it anyway. Just make sure your educated, ask people on here before taking anything about dosages, ect. To minimize the side effects, but remember once your cross over you WILL cycle for life.
 
Get your note pad out(the diet board is a good place to start)learn to eat food that you need a bal of protein-carbs-fat learn proper form and you will grow like a weed-guaranteed!




RADAR
 
thanks for your help so far.
my height is 1.80 meters (don't know how much that is in feet, sorry).
i actually wanna take roids as an emotional push. i know that your mind pays an important role in muscle building, but atm i'm not very motivated because i just got back to gym after i broke my arm and i'm pretty weak in comparison to before i broke my arm, and i don't wanna start all over again. that's why i "need" roids to make me "feel better"...
 
" amke roids make me feel better" most important thing to feel better is ones mind. roids give ya a feeling of feeling better for a VERY short time and than they consume your personality and can destroy you as qucik as they help you. know how many mentally fucked up roid guys there are? looka round at guys personalitys and you will see. not everyone by any means but many by all means.
 
RADAR said:
Get your note pad out(the diet board is a good place to start)learn to eat food that you need a bal of protein-carbs-fat learn proper form and you will grow like a weed-guaranteed!




RADAR

well said
 
skinnyfromtoptobottom said:
thanks for your help so far.
my height is 1.80 meters (don't know how much that is in feet, sorry).
i actually wanna take roids as an emotional push. i know that your mind pays an important role in muscle building, but atm i'm not very motivated because i just got back to gym after i broke my arm and i'm pretty weak in comparison to before i broke my arm, and i don't wanna start all over again. that's why i "need" roids to make me "feel better"...

Instead of spending money on roids you should spend the money on THERAPY.

Seriously dude, your attitude sucks and it sounds like you have big issues that don't have a goddamn thing to do with lifting.
 
skinnyfromtoptobottom said:
thanks for your help so far.
my height is 1.80 meters (don't know how much that is in feet, sorry).
i actually wanna take roids as an emotional push. i know that your mind pays an important role in muscle building, but atm i'm not very motivated because i just got back to gym after i broke my arm and i'm pretty weak in comparison to before i broke my arm, and i don't wanna start all over again. that's why i "need" roids to make me "feel better"...

I don't think that roids are the emotional push you need bro. Cause when you come off you gonna crash and burn harder and don't give me that shit that you are going to stay on them forever. Unless you want more serious problems down the line.

By the way, YOU NEED TO MOTIVATE THAT SKINNY LITLE BODY, BOY!
You also need some medication, but not the ones you looking for. You need to be mentally focused when you train and especially if you are thinking of runnin some gear. This ain't unstable little boy shit to cry to mom and pop about.

Let me ask you one question? There are 2 types of people in life, the steppers and the steppies. Which are you going to chose to be?
 
flexed1 said:
First off I started after lifting 3 years and weighed 155 I am 5'4. I also have competed lightweight at a weight of 164 and under. So from that stance weight has nothing to do with it as I started and weighed 109 in high school 122 when I started lifting and took the time to grow naturally before juicing for the first time at age 27 as I recall. I now weigh natural 180 so again it shows the hard work i did before the juice and it also shows how the juice moved my " natural" bodyweight and physique to where it now is. Though I stopped lifting and juicing I still look like a bodybuilder again from all of the hard work to build my base ebfore drugs.

Hey flexed, is that a picture of you in your avatar? What % and weight are you at there?
 
I graduated high school weighing 110 lbs at 6'0. Decided to start lifting in college and after 4 1/2 yrs graduated weighing 155 lbs. Put on 45 lbs in 4 1/2 years.

Then at 26 yrs old in 1998 weighing 169, did sauce for the 1st time. Did 5 wks of cyctanoh 250 and got to 186 lbs, stayed around 180 lbs.

Last April 2002 at 29 yrs old did 2nd cycle of sus redijects from Mexico for 6 wks, after getting flu week later started at 175 lbs to 192 lbs.

Now at 185 lbs and plan to do 3rd cycle with TT Eq at 300/wk for 6 wks and see what i can gain from that.

So after 10 yrs of lifting and doing 2 cycles, i've put on 75 lbs and look pretty decent at 6'0 12% BF.
 
flexed1 said:
" amke roids make me feel better" most important thing to feel better is ones mind. roids give ya a feeling of feeling better for a VERY short time and than they consume your personality and can destroy you as qucik as they help you. know how many mentally fucked up roid guys there are? looka round at guys personalitys and you will see. not everyone by any means but many by all means.


?????
 
he stated he wanted to take roids to make himslef feel better. i stated if thats why one takes roids ( and there are many) you will join the ranks of being one of the fucked up mental roid folks of which there are many.

how many folks have you seen on roids who do complete 180"s on there personality's? i have seen quite a few and they are the same ones that can't stop taking them as without them they feel incomplete.
 
I think 18 is to young. But, it is a personal decision, we are all still
learning about AS.

I waited until I was 44 before my first cycle. I have been natural all of my life, competing successfully. I needed the help at my age to train the way that I want.

I was 5'9" 220 before I touched the juice..now I push 250..after one cycle and I could easily go to 260..but I gained so fast it scared me.

That's what people mean when they talk about reaching your natural threshold, once you have and you add the juice to the already developed diet, training and rest plan that was successful when natural, you just explode!
 
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