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rHGH with Nolvadex...is it a waste?

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ok lets poll to get a agreement between you guys, right now im running NPP and my nips get swollen and sore so i take 25mg ed. im also on HGH 2 iu's ed. WILL THE NOLVA KILL THE HGH AFFECTS?
 
Well, if it does hinder the effects of HGH, it will very mininimally (if any at all).
Hell bro--- you are getting gyno anyway ---run the nolva asap. That's a no-brainer
 
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The science is unclear. I had a dicussion with nandi about this a few years ago and not even he had an absolute answer.

Me, I run both and don't worry about it.
 
It shouldn't hinder it completely, you'll still get the benefits of GH, probably just not 100% of them. However, it's a moot point, nolva won't help if you're getting swollen nips from NPP... nolva works on estrogen, not progesterone or prolactin, and those are the ways deca/NPP/tren give you gyno, not estrogen, so nolva or AI's are useless for preventing NPP gyno. You'd need dostinex/cabaser I believe to help that.
 
well im sorry but what you beileve is WRONG dostinex doesnt do SHIT for steroid tits, NOLVA does.

im sorry the board is flooded with these lies and people subscribe to them
 
Agreed! Time and time again, people try to recommend other things to combat gyno --when in fact nothing works better than Nolva ----period! It is simply too potent of a specific breast tissue receptor estrogen antagonist.
 
im gonna hop on 80 mg of nolva and taper down to 20 mg ed! fuck it better than breasts.

...dostinex lol.....

when will people learn?
 
What the hell is wrong with you people? I just gave you scientific fact, not lies. Nolvadex is a competitive ESTROGEN blocker. It WILL NOT help with gyno caused by NPP, because NPP does NOT convert to estrogen. Nandrolones, like deca and NPP, cause gyno through increased progesterone and prolactin levels, and nolva DOES NOT block either of those. Go ahead, look it up, try it out. If you've got gyno from deca/npp, nolva won't help it, neither will aromasin, letrozole, arimidex, clomid, etc. Those only help when estrogen is the problem. You guys have been around here a while, i'm surprised you don't know better than this. Nolva won't help progesterone/prolactin gyno, and that's the bottom line. Try and prove me wrong, but every bit of scientific, medical, and in-the-trenches research has proven this correct time and time again, so you won't be able to. You're both lucky I'm not plat or I'd bomb you both for being idiots :)
 
********** have you ran dostinex and NPP?DECA together enough to come here to the message boards and say drug xyz is better for this?

tux have you ever ran dostinex and deca?

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Watch your mouth! this is a civilized message board!
 
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Why yes, yes actually I HAVE run them. What's your point? I tried nolva when I started getting some lumps on 100mg/day of NPP, didn't do jack. I did some research, took dostinex/cabaser( same thing) and it went away. I've gotten the same kind of lumps from too much dbol and test, and nolva cured that right away. Also, every bit of medical evidence supports my point... show me ONE piece of evidence that nolvadex inhibits prolactin or progesterone. You can't, b/c it doesn't exist.
 
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