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Reverse band press carry over

Deciever

Deciever

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I was doing reverse band press tonight w/ the light bands, and throughout the exercise i kept a semi-close grip (thumbs length away from the smooth).
So i work up like this.
warm ups
135 x 5
165 x 3
185 x 3
200 x 1
210 x1 (Beat my old PR by like 2 lbs w / a wider grip)
220 x0
215 x 1 new PR!. Only thing was that it was a bitch to get up.

I wanna know why i can get 215 on a reverse band press, but i cant even get 200 w/ a shirt. Its gotta be a mental barrier, but im tired of it. I am thinking that i should be close to 215 w/ a shirt (once i grow into it more to make it really tight), which would put me 20lbs away from the 148 record in my state.

i was wondering what everyone's carry over is from reverse band press is to the raw bench and shirted bench.
 
Deceiver, there is either something wrong with your shirt, or something is seriously wrong with your head. Light band reverse band press should be about the same as your raw max.

I cannot do much on a green band reverse band press, but I did around 500 or so for a very close grip tricep movement after doing some very heavy M.E. work. Fresh and with a normal grip, I am guessing I could do 530 to 550 or so with the blues, and this is pretty much where my shirt press is (I think)

Never used the light bands for reverse bands, but if you can do 215 with that, you should be smoking that easily with a shirt. If you ordered from Inzer, and got a single ply poly, you have to cut your measurements way way down to get any good out of the shirt.

At your size, take at least 1/2 inch off arms, 2 inches off chest, and 2 or more off shoulders when ordering. I have not worn a poly in almost a year, but when I wore one, I weighed 215, and it was the exact same Inzer Blast that Ricky Dale Crain had fitted me for when I weighed 165. I got at least 50 lbs out of that shirt. Maybe more. You have to wear a poly insanely tight. It took 3 200 plus pound guys to put me in that shirt, and we worked for 10 or 20 minutes. Shirts need to be tight if they are poly. If they are single ply, they really need to be tight.

B.
 
i wish i could smoke 215 w/ a shirt..most i've done with a shirt, was a very quick 190. I plan on growing into my shirt, which is why i gave exact measurement for the shirt.
All this gear crap is getting confusing. im shirting up in about a month probably, and if i dont hit atleast 210 , im gonna be pissed as hell.
One day i'll figure out my poly shirt :)
 
Okay, check this out. I hit 525 on two separate occasions with reversed green bands (no shirt). Supposedly, the reversed green bands are a very good indicator of where your shirted press is. The most I've ever hit shirted is around 455-475. So, in my case there is a 50-70 lb. difference. I believe the stabilization the bands give me really help me control the bar and I can focus on pushing the damn weight. My shit is all fucked up.
 
if it weren't for my damn light band tearing i would have done some reverse band presses. i'm going to test these out as soon as i order some more bands. i think i might get a whole new set.
 
Screwball said:
Okay, check this out. I hit 525 on two separate occasions with reversed green bands (no shirt). Supposedly, the reversed green bands are a very good indicator of where your shirted press is. The most I've ever hit shirted is around 455-475. So, in my case there is a 50-70 lb. difference. I believe the stabilization the bands give me really help me control the bar and I can focus on pushing the damn weight. My shit is all fucked up.
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Yup. I did 475 with the green bands but I couldnt do that much with a shirt either. I think that the reverse band presses may be closer to a shirted max for the benchers with shorter arms a opposed to taller longer armed benchers because the shirt boost off the bottom will get it much closer to lockout for shorter armed v longer armed lifters.
 
I use green bands for reverse bands, and I cannot do much at all with these, and when bigokie is around I use blue bands. I am going to get some blue bands pretty soon.

Everyone is different, but for me, the greens don' t help much at all. I can raw bench about what I can do with greens, but I can go over 500 with blues.

And Screwball, if you ever wake up and realize how freakishly strong you really are, 600 is going to look like a playtoy. 500+ with green bands? Give me a break, that smokes me by like a hundred pounds with greens. Sack up and smoke 500, then 550 and on to 600. You already have it in you, you just need to beleive that you do.

You really are the biggest and strongest guy I ever trained with, I think right now you are like a car with a huge engine and an iffy transmission. The horsepower is there, you just need to figure out a way to get it to the road. I for some reason have been overacheiving, but you are much stronger than I am, you just need to show it.

B.
 
I think around 135 to 150 with the blues. Not positive on that one. I don't know why I suck so bad with the greens, but I honestly cannot do much more than my raw max (whatever that is) with the greens.

Link doesn't work, Deceiver, but in answer, I choke them around the top of the rack, and I put the bar through the bands in the middle of the bar, not out where the weights go. Almost no tension at the top, and 135 to 150 of reverse tension at the chest. Really works the lockout. I love them. Even though I suck with the greens, I still love doing this exercise with them. With the blues, it is probably my second favorite exercise behind shirt/board presses.

B.
 
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i know what you mean, but thats the best pic bench monster sent me.
Anyways for the top, just take the band, and hang it over the cross bar on the power rack.. take one end and pull it through the other til it becomes cinched at the top . Thats all you gotta do.
 
Deciever said:
not a pic, but this might work.
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You cannot contain my powerful midsection!!!!! It is useless to even attempt it!!! Mere mortal shirts cannot stop this powergut, they cannot even hold it back!!!!

B.
 
Hey Deciever, neither link is working and I can't view the pic you posted. Maybe you can post a pic if your not a Platinum member but no one else can view it. Can anyone else view the pic Deciever posted?

Benchmonster: I appreciate the kind words but I think I may be destined to be one of those guys who looks strong but has very average numbers. It may be a mental thing but I'm not sure that it is the sole reason for me not hitting bigger numbers.

Are you sure you can't hit 500+ with the green bands reversed? You should be able to hit that easy with your lockout strength. Does it stick on your chest? I know that your lockout strength is a good 50-75 lbs. more than mine. Whenever we've hit our ME movements you always outdone me by 50-75 lbs. I may be a little stronger at the bottom of the movement but a strong lockout is worth a lot more than a little, better push off of the bottom. You just know how to use your shirts to the fullest and I'm still trying to learn. It will just take time and experience for me.
 
screwball- the pic worked for a few minutes than died down... i'll try another one in this post to see if it works...

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did it work?
 
I don't know why I am such a puss with the green bands. I just don't seem to be able to get much out of them. I know I can do well over 500 with blue bands, after I get a set, I may play around with hand placement, and go out to pinky on the rings. I am pretty sure I could get upper 500's maybe close to 600, who knows?

Screwball, you are a strong motherflower, don't try and kid these guys. I am just a gimmic lifter - all shirt. Speaking of shirts, I just got the most wonderful peice of mail from Karin. New shirt. I am going to have to try it out Sunday night. Going to the lake this weekend, so I am having to push training back a bit.

This whole wife and kids thing is starting to cramp my training style. Something is going to have to give. . . I sure am going to miss them.

B.
 
We train boards with green bands suspended. I have done 725 off a 4 brd. But without a shirt and using blue bands i believe i did 635 loaded. Can definitly do more , but onnly did them once and i remeber having shoulder pain still. Buyt i believe with the right shirt you shouold be able to simulkate your bench shirt with blue bands. Or dam close to it. My shirt is tighter then green bands give. So to answer your question it varies with your lockout power and the tightness of your shirt.
 
so lets see. with blue bands, i should be able to hit around 225-230... so i need to go out and order a shirt that takes about 4 people to pull down... i wish USAPL allowed opened backs
 
Yes, to your questions, K1401. We also do these with and without shirts. Shirts + Bands + Boards = Good Times. The only thing that would make the equation better would be to throw in a case of beer. :D
 
I'm going to give them a shot tomorrow for ME day, for the first one, should I go without boards, or with them?

Case of beer sounds good, since I lift at 5 am it would be a nice breakfast, but I don't think my boss would like it;)
 
Put the bands on first, do some warmups, then go to boards, work up 20 to 50 lbs per set depending upon your strength level, and throw on the shirt when you feel the need.

Deceiver,

The last time I wore a poly, I weighed 215 lbs, and it was the same shirt that Ricky Crain had fitted me for when I weighed 165, and it was tight at 165. How is that for tight? It took more then 600 lbs of men to put that shirt on me. A ton of baby powder, and 15 minutes. But I got over 50 lbs out of that shirt, and that was a 38 dollar shirt.

B.
 
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