Restoring the HPTA (where's Nelson? LOL )

[Smokescreen]

My good bro "DJ_UFO" talked to me about "Triptorelin". Said it will help in restoring the HPTA.

What does "restoring" the HPTA really consist of? FSH and LH output? That's it? Or is there more to a "restored" HPTA?

 

[Nelson Montana]

My good bro "DJ_UFO" talked to me about "Triptorelin". Said it will help in restoring the HPTA.

What does "restoring" the HPTA really consist of? FSH and LH output? That's it? Or is there more to a "restored" HPTA?

First off, I don't know who started this Triptorelin kick but that's the last stuff I would use for PCT since it lowers LH.

"Recovery" is many things, mainly restoring the HPTA. There's also free testosterone and few other things we don;t fully understand. But let's go with the HPTA.

LH and FSH allows the body to make testosterone. But here's the kicker -- HCG doesn;t raise it and leave it there -- it just gives it a bump. So in essence, recovery must be made by the body naturally. The HCG just gives a little punt to get you going while you recover. BRIDGE increases LH so using it PCT will help the body's own development.

FREE T is essential and it will be lower after a cycle. UNLEASHED increases free T by lowering SHBG. It's a HUGE advancement in getting over the hump to recovery and a MUST.

Sex drive is low PC so you want to get that going too. POST CYCLE has ingredients that act like viagra to maintain erectile function. If you don't , or can't have sex, recovery is slowed further.

ALso, once the HPTA is recovered, it's still a little fragile. People think that as long as the numbers go up they're fine and can do another cycle. Not so. Do another cycle too soon and you may never recover completely. Time on DOES NOT equal time off. You need to stay off TWICE AS LONG as you're on to fully recover the HPTA.

That's PART of the story.

 

[panther66]

Thanks Nelson! Very direct and easy to understand.

 

[Smokescreen]

Good to know Nelson. My HPTA is completely burned out. Tried many, many forms of PCTs throughout the years. And none has worked. I now have to stay on HCG and Test to stay alive.

The only problem is that my damn SHBG is pretty high. And keeps getting higher the older I get.

E levels are in check. As well as thyroid hormones. Insulin levels as well. So I don't understand why my SHBG is high.

Could it be the HCG doing it?

 

[DJ_UFO]

I would never recommend anybody to use Triptorelin as a regular PCT. It is completely experimental. I recommended to you to look into it since your system is completely shutdown and according to you nothing else has worked before. However, I still think you should try coming off completely from every single drug and giving your body a chance to recover for the first time.

Triptorelin is GnRH. It was developed for patients with prostate cancer. When you apply the first dose of Triptorelin in a patient, It makes the pituitary gland produce high amounts of LH and FSH. However, with more frequent doses of Triptorelin, the pituitary gland shutdown from desensitization. That's exactly what a cancer patient needs, in order to stop testosterone production and stop DHT conversion. But for a bodybuilder or a patient with an already shutdown pituitary, one dose of Triptorelin should restart the system. That's the theory.

But do some research bro. If you google it there's plenty of scientific information about it. But I repeat, you will not be able to fix your body if you stay on any type of chemical running inside. The only way you can tell that "nothing works" is by stopping everything and letting your body clean itself. You will feel like shit for a while but is what it takes. After 8-12 months of trials and errors, then you can really tell if your body has a chance or not.

 

[Smokescreen]

Been off of a everything a couple time for months. It was disastrous

 

[dagorart]

Good advice!

 

[Smokescreen]

Believe me when I tell you that I tried many many times to throw in the towel and just give up on gear. But I don't like it. I like being on gear. I look better, feel better and work better. I'm more human...lets put it like that. Without it life isn't worth living. There are just some certain drugs I won't do. And certain doses I wont do. And I learned to always take high dose of Fish oil and 5-htp to avoid many of the sides that gear gives. Like anxiety, irritability, anger, mood swings, lethargy, insomnia, somnolence, appetite problems etc etc.

 

[stevesmi]

none of those sides are pronounced if you take a conservative dosage and if you pick the right gear

primo/sustanon cycle I had ZERO side effects and ZERO issues with recovery. even my PCT i took a low dose of clomid along with my normal protocol (everyone complains about clomid sides) well sides were non existant there too.

now if you want to run 600mg per week of tren and then for PCT 200mg ED of a SERM and then wonder why you get sides then that is your own problem