Research Done ,

[Q8TY]

I can't Get any Anti estrogen that why i plan my cycle on low dosage :


Ok I done my Research

(W).Sus..DECA..Clenbutrol..OX..winny..
1..250..200...40mcg EOD .. ..
2..250..300...40mcg EOD .. ..
3..250..300...40mcg EOD .. ..
4..250..300...40mcg EOD .. ....100
5..250..300... O F F ...........4 ..150
6..250..200...40mcg EOD ..4 ..150
7..125..100...40mcg EOD ..4 ..150
8..125..100...40mcg EOD ..4 ..100


My cycle will be only 6 week and 2 week taper down


Anavar = 2,5 per tab so 4 anavar = 10

Restore HTPA
I will use HCG in 7-8 @ 1500 I.U EOD
Then I will start Clomid 300mg first day then 100 for 10 day and last 50 for more 1 week

am I doing anything wrong in my cycle ?please help

 

[Johnny Cut]

personally,

i dont agree with the whole tapering cycle deal, just run

1-8 sust 250 mg
1-8 deca 400 mg
8-12 Winny 50mg/day

as far as the clen is concerned, u gotta pyramid that so u dont build a tolerance to it, start at .02mcg and work your way up from there over a 4 week on/off period....


i would cut out the anavar all together

 

[Silent Method]

I agree with Johnny as far as tapering is concerned.

Q8TY, with no antiestrogen I'm not sure I'd do HCG as you have prescribed.

Do you have access to proviron or nolvadex?

 

[Q8TY]

Cool Silent Method is here

yes I have access to proviron and nolvadex
but I don't have access to stong anti estrogen Aridmex


No sustanon , Its Cutting Cycle W/ CKD diet

------------------------------------
(W)...DECA..Clenbutrol..OX..winny..HCG.
.1....200...40mcg EOD.......100........
.2....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.3....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.4....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.5....300......O F F..........4 .100........
.6....200...40mcg EOD...4 .............
.7....100...40mcg EOD...4 .........HCG EOD 1500 + Nolvadex40
.8....100...40mcg EOD...4 .........HCG EOD 1500 + N40
-----------------------------------
10- First Day 300 Then 100 for 10 day and then 2 week 50 mg clomid

Note : i can't Use anything injection after week 8 i will not have access to them

Anavar = 2,5 per tab so 4 anavar = 10

Or

------------------------------------
(W)...DECA..Clenbutrol..OX..winny..HCG.
.1....300...40mcg EOD.......100........
.2....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.3....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.4....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.5....300......O F F..........4 ..100........
.6....300...40mcg EOD...4 .............
.7....300...40mcg EOD...4 .........HCG EOD 1500 + N40
.8....300...40mcg EOD...4 .........HCG EOD 1500 + N40
-----------------------------------
9
10 here clomid

 

[bebaumax]

Dude, you don't need Arimidex. How do you think we lasted all these years without it? It doesn't do anything special above and beyond what 20mg of Nolvadex will do. Personally, I think it's overpriced.. WAY overpriced. I stick with Nolva, keep some Clomid and Proviron and Bromo around, depending on the cycle, and that's it.
-B

 

[Canuck4]

I agree.
Dont tapper, keep levels constant.
If you cant get any anti-e's go to PnP and Pick up some stuff.
They got liquidex, liquid femara, Nolva , Clomid etc...
Drop me a pm if you want their site.

I agree with Johnny as far as tapering is concerned.

Q8TY, with no antiestrogen I'm not sure I'd do HCG as you have prescribed.

Do you have access to proviron or nolvadex?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Arimidex. It doesn't do anything special above and beyond what 20mg of Nolvadex will do. Personally, I think it's overpriced.. WAY overpriced.
-B

disagree as to no difference in effects.. though not sure as to the price issue.. dex can be had at 1-3$per mg..
nolva varies a lot and dont know current prices

 

[Saint7]

Nolva 20mg 100 tabs= 60.00.

Saint7

 

[genarr3]

At those doses I seriously doubt you need to run an anti-e.

 

[Zoomster]

"At those doses I seriously doubt you need to run an anti-e"

I may be different, but I would recommend to always have anti e's available.

When you need them, if you do not have them, it is too late. Just my opinion.

 

[bebaumax]

disagree as to no difference in effects.. though not sure as to the price issue.. dex can be had at 1-3$per mg..
nolva varies a lot and dont know current prices

macro, I agree, there ARE differences, but it also depends on your administration of arimidex, e.g. tab, or l-dex, ya know what I mean? I do think l-dex is going to help keep down water bloat better than nolva, but purely as an anti-E, as long as I've got nolva around, I don't worry about arimidex. You know what I mean?
-B

 

[Q8TY]

Canuck4 "I agree. Dont tapper"
Silent Method "I agree with Johnny as far as tapering is concerned"
Johnny "i dont agree with the whole tapering cycle deal"

I can't Tapering after hear You Guys 3 Vs 1 thanks for help
but I'm wondering if I will lose my gain , if I don't Tapering DECA !!

This Will be my cycle

------------------------------------
(W)...DECA..Clenbutrol..OX..winny..HCG.
.1....300...40mcg EOD.......100........
.2....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.3....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.4....300...40mcg EOD.......150........
.5....300......O F F.........4 ..100........
.6....300...40mcg EOD...4 .............
.7....300...40mcg EOD...4 .........HCG EOD 1500 + Nolvadex40
.8....300...40mcg EOD...4 .........HCG EOD 1500 + N40
-----------------------------------

 

[Q8TY]

what wrong with my cycle ? am i doing any thing wrong ?

please give me ok to start my cycle

thanks ,

 

[Silent Method]

Q8TY, why did you decide not to use testosterone? Even if you plan on cutting, I think test is a good addition to the cycle.

Have you considered using EQ instead of deca? Deca takes a very long time to clear out of your system. It can also cause quite a bit of bloat and many people get gyno while using it.

Many people argue that EQ works just as well as an anabolic but has less side effects than deca.

I like your first plan with these changes-

Sus.....EQ..Clenbutrol..OX..winny..
1..250..400...40mcg EOD .. ..
2..250..400...40mcg EOD .. ..
3..250..400... O F F .....................
4..250..400...40mcg EOD .. ....100
5..250..400...40mcg EOD ..4 ..150
6..250..400... O F F ...........4 ..150
7..250..400...40mcg EOD ..4 ..150
8..250..400...40mcg EOD ..4 ..100

 

[DONKEY]

Silent method's revision of your cycle is the way to go, but stopping everything on wk 8 is not a good idea bc mentally you might hit a brick wall. Run the winny from weeks 6-10 bc you can't start clomid until 3 wks after your last shot of deca or EQ.

I've used both deca and EQ and he is right EQ works just as well. However with EQ the crash is unwelcoming and straight up sucks, but everyone is different. I get terrible anxiety with EQ as well. It's so bad I can't sleep when I'm on it and that's another reason I would lean towards deca instead of EQ.

If you can get your hands on arimidex it'll help with the bloat caused by deca. You lose the water weight from deca post cycle anyway especially when anti-E's are on hand. Anti-E's are easy to get so do some research.

Arimidex is expensive but well worth it and personally I'd never do a cycle without anti-E's