Recreational drugs and steroids

[Ibiza 06]

The "holes in your brain" from E are actually bullshit. Watch "Ecstasy Rising" by Peter Jennings (Nightline)...he dispells all of the government sponsored E-Myths.

Here's some good info on rec drugs:

GHB: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...D=2&artID=99946
Alcohol: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...D=3&artID=99953
Alcohol II: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...D=4&artID=99959
Bupropion: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...=10&artID=99999
Nicotine: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...13&artID=999130
Ecstacy *MDMA*: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...14&artID=999140
Cocaine: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...17&artID=999192
Caffeine: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindan...30&artID=999363


www.dansesafe.org is a great board to ask about E and coke, but not steroids...EliteFitness is the opposite (great to ask about steroids, not so great for rec drug info)...it's probably a good idea to keep that difference in mind

good info man, and agree with you mate.

 

[Slyder190]

Links don't work.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Keep in mind, I have no problem with anyone putting any chemicals at all in their body...I just think you'll get better results talking about E and Coke with people who use it, and the same thing goes for steroids.

Sadly, both groups tend to be a little closed minded towards the other.

On www.mindandmuscle.net, they discuss steroids as well as "neuroscience" (drugs that alter your mind)...but...I'm undecided as to whether I think it's a good idea to discuss both on the same board.

 

[BigCracker]

i agree....it is a valid question...especially since many bodybuilders and especially the pros are known for some crazy afterparties

Ahmadkool must think pro BB's walk around eating turkey wraps, popping multi vitamins, and drinking Diet Snapple while reading Musclemag 24/7. For most pro BB's, this is hardly the case.

Competitive bodybuilding has very little to do with health. In fact, the guys that look the best on stage are the ones most likely to keel over and die from dehydration, heart attack, stroke etc. Most guys that will jab a needle in there ass won't think much of smoking weed, dropping E, or tooting up a line of coke. Then again, some choose to avoid these femeral pleasures altogether. I say it's your body/life-if you wanna smoke crack and worship Satan and that's what makes you truly happy-I say go for it. Life is short.

Steroid guys that point the finger at rec drug users are hypocrites in the same way fat ass, beer in one hand/cigarette in the other- couch potatoes accuse any guy with a decent physique of being a juicer. You don't like people preaching to you about your lifestyle choices, so shut the fuck up about theirs.

The truth is the biggest rec. drug users I know are all competive BB's. I see guys that place well in state/regional/national shows smoking pre/post workout joints in the gym parking lot at least once a week-and they're usually talking about scoring an 8 ball of blow and hitting the titty bars later for cocktails. Then they drop a couple Valiums to fall asleep when they get home. Of course they chill on this type of partying at contest time-but not because they want to. They just don't want these things to affect their diet/training/recovery before a show. Off season-it's anything goes again.

 

[shivastool]

I've tried both... and steroids tend to support being healthy, anabolism, and an overall fit lifestyle. Rec drugs support catabolism, brain impairment, and can be highly addictive leading to disfunction and stupidity. Choose life! Just say no!!

 

[BigCracker]

I've tried both... and steroids tend to support being healthy, anabolism, and an overall fit lifestyle. Rec drugs support catabolism, brain impairment, and can be highly addictive leading to disfunction and stupidity. Choose life! Just say no!!

And steroids aren't addictive? Damn, I better start worrying about this 15 yr long cycle I'm on. I don't wanna be labled an addict. People might think I'm a loser.

For the bazillionth time I have a message for all of you self righteous, "but roids are different" guys- All Recreational Drugs, RX Painkillers, RX Anti-anxiety/ depressants, RX Muscle Relaxers, Viagra/Cialis, Roids, Alcohol, Tobacco, Sex, Porn, Masturbation, The Internet, Food, Shopping, Gambling, Exercise, and even Religion-they are all dope!!! Anyone that overidulges in any of these things is going to have problems and has no room to talk shit about anyone else's lifestyle choices.

 

[drrman]

And steroids aren't addictive? Damn, I better start worrying about this 15 yr long cycle I'm on. I don't wanna be labled an addict. People might think I'm a loser.

For the bazillionth time I have a message for all of you self righteous, "but roids are different" guys- All Recreational Drugs, RX Painkillers, RX Anti-anxiety/ depressants, RX Muscle Relaxers, Viagra/Cialis, Roids, Alcohol, Tobacco, Sex, Porn, Masturbation, The Internet, Food, Shopping, Gambling, Exercise, and even Religion-they are all dope!!! Anyone that overidulges in any of these things is going to have problems and has no room to talk shit about anyone else's lifestyle choices.

BRO.....EXCELLENT and i mean EXCELLENT way to put it, and your post before this one couldn't be more true either!

 

[AinteasybeingDiesie]

Coke is wak, it is so 80's. But sometimes in the middle of a cycle I like to go out one night and drop a roll & Hoover up a Jar of K. It helps with my temper to keep me from ripping heads off.

 

[Quiltie]

I have to add my 2c to this thread.

Do people that ask about rec drugs realize what its like- just trying to stay healthy as you age while trying to do everything right? It gets harder and harder to get up and do your thing every day as it is, without blowing up your systems with some b*llshit that makes you happy for an hour or two- and ruins your health down the road. I wish one of the young guys could see what its like when you get injured, how much effort is needed just to get back to NORMAL! Then they wouldn't be so quick to pop pills and toot lines. It's degrading your future quality of life.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

And steroids aren't addictive? Damn, I better start worrying about this 15 yr long cycle I'm on. I don't wanna be labled an addict. People might think I'm a loser.

For the bazillionth time I have a message for all of you self righteous, "but roids are different" guys- All Recreational Drugs, RX Painkillers, RX Anti-anxiety/ depressants, RX Muscle Relaxers, Viagra/Cialis, Roids, Alcohol, Tobacco, Sex, Porn, Masturbation, The Internet, Food, Shopping, Gambling, Exercise, and even Religion-they are all dope!!! Anyone that overidulges in any of these things is going to have problems and has no room to talk shit about anyone else's lifestyle choices.

AMEN!!!
AMEN!!!
AMEN!!!
both this post and the one preceeding it.