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Schutzhund1

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Can anyone recommend a decent treadmill for under $1000 US.? I weigh between 225 and 255. I'm 6'4" and would be using this for jogging and incline walking.

I've heard that you really can't get a decent treadmill for under 2K but that's not the budget.

I already have a cheap ($350) elliptical that I've got good results from over the past year but I want a treadmill for variety.

Are the refurbished gym models in this price range and are they a good deal?
 
Finally a thread that i can make a valid contribution to! Ok, i've been in the home fitness equipment business for 12 years. The answer is no...you cannot find a good treadmill for someone your size for under $1K. If you shop around you might be able to get out for around $1500. What you are going to need is something with at least a 2.5 continuous duty motor. I would go to treadmilldoctor.com and do some research. Pacemaster is a great value and has a great rep for building a quality treadmill at a great price. I would look at the Pro Plus 2 model. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.
 
SuperDawgy said:
Finally a thread that i can make a valid contribution to! Ok, i've been in the home fitness equipment business for 12 years. The answer is no...you cannot find a good treadmill for someone your size for under $1K. If you shop around you might be able to get out for around $1500. What you are going to need is something with at least a 2.5 continuous duty motor. I would go to treadmilldoctor.com and do some research. Pacemaster is a great value and has a great rep for building a quality treadmill at a great price. I would look at the Pro Plus 2 model. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.
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Thanks for the info and web site. I think that I'll end up spending between $1200 and 1500 after reading the buyers guide.
It appears the old saying that when you buy quality, you only cry once pertains to treadmills.
 
Shallow Hal said:
You will not be able to find a good tread for under a $1000. Even $1500 is pushing it. About the best tread I have seen for a bigger guy is the Vision 9600HRT. I think it will cost about $2200 bucks.

www.visionfitness.com
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Vision makes a great tread, but you can get as good of a tread for less. Look at SportsArt, Pacemaster, Life Fitness (essential line), and Nautilus NTR500. I would go with a Pacemaster Pro Select...which you can get for around $1700, it has a better motor than the 9600 Vision and better warranty.
 
I keep seeing a treadmill advertised on tv that looks interesting..model owen mckibble from mens health was pimping it...tread climber I think it was called

peace
 
I would try to find a discontinued model or a demo from a place like Sears. Test them out and don't look at anything with less than 2.5 hp. I bought a nice Nordic Track that way a year or so ago and while it's not gym quality it does what I need it to do.

As a note: my beau is your size and he can run on the treadmill no problems (again nothing under 2.5 hp and try it out before you buy it).

You can also call up gyms - they upgrade and get rid of equipment or look at the paper for people selling theirs.
 
SuperDawgy said:
Talk to me bro, i have connections nationwide.
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Well, Im in Ohio......I'll even take refurbished one, but I want a "gym" model........precor or something.....doesnt have to have the moving rails.....whatcha know? how much we talking?
 
SuperDawgy said:
Vision makes a great tread, but you can get as good of a tread for less. Look at SportsArt, Pacemaster, Life Fitness (essential line), and Nautilus NTR500. I would go with a Pacemaster Pro Select...which you can get for around $1700, it has a better motor than the 9600 Vision and better warranty.
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If you are in the exercise equipment business you obviously will have your favorites. But I have sold Sports Art and Lifefitness and even though they both make good commercial items (Sports Art is coming out with some good stuff) their home products leave something to be desired. Buying the essential line is like throwing good money out the window.

The Pacemaster has 2.75 HP motor and a 20"x54" running surface. The Vision is 3 HP and 20"x60" running area. Now the differrence in HP is really nothing but I would spend the extra $300 just for the bigger running surface. Like I said, we all have our favorites.

People should just realize that quality exercise equipment is not cheap.
 
Schutz, if you want a VERY good treadmill with an even BETTER warranty, it doesn't get any better than Trimline. I've had mine for the past 2 years and have NEVER had a problem. The motor, which is the heart of the treadmill, has a 30 year warranty!!! The weight capacity on the model I have is 350lbs and it only cost me $1300 with tax. Check it out. You won't be sorry.
 
Precor was the originator of the elliptical and is still the best from what I've read. It has the adjustable cross ramp which you can use to adjust the intensity of your workout (more climbing motion). They are expensive but worth it.
 
Superdawgy- Can you comment on the value of "refurbished" equipement?

Is this a better or worse way to go?


Shallow Hal- I read somewhere that it's best go get the smallest deck you can efficiently run on because the larger deck requires more motor power to move. - Then again, all the treadmills I've looked at up till now have only had 2.5HP motors. I guess with a 2.75 or even 3 hp motor you probably wouldn't have to worry about it.
 
Schutzhund1 said:
Superdawgy- Can you comment on the value of "refurbished" equipement?

Is this a better or worse way to go?


Shallow Hal- I read somewhere that it's best go get the smallest deck you can efficiently run on because the larger deck requires more motor power to move. - Then again, all the treadmills I've looked at up till now have only had 2.5HP motors. I guess with a 2.75 or even 3 hp motor you probably wouldn't have to worry about it.
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Shutz-Usually refurbed equip has been "touched up" after being tortured in a gym for years. I try to steer people away whenever i can. Buy new and you get a decent warranty. You might pay more initially, but over the 10-15 years that you will own it, you will pay less to keep it up and running.

Hal- I said that Vision is a great treadmill..no doubt, but a comparable vision will be anywhere between $400-500 more. And Pacemaster has a much longer history than Vision...not to mention that it isn't an import brand. BTW, Aerobics now runs 3.0 McMillan motors in all of their models. Deck length is only a factor when it comes to height or length of stride. If you are under 6'5" then a 60" deck is overkill in most scenarios. Not to mention that the added length (without increasing roller diameter) will lead to premature belt wear and make it harder to keep it tracking correctly.

Sidenote: Trimline is also a decent treadmill. Hebb Industries is now owned by Nautilus. They have made some great changes in the lineup and they have an ass of funding behind them. They are still making the majority of their models in Tyler, Tx...but all in all, Pacemaster and or Vision are both superior products at close to the same price.
 
Schutzhund1 said:
Superdawgy- Can you comment on the value of "refurbished" equipement?

Is this a better or worse way to go?


Shallow Hal- I read somewhere that it's best go get the smallest deck you can efficiently run on because the larger deck requires more motor power to move. - Then again, all the treadmills I've looked at up till now have only had 2.5HP motors. I guess with a 2.75 or even 3 hp motor you probably wouldn't have to worry about it.
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That is basically true. Look, all exercise equipment sales people will have their preferences and try to push you towards the products they like. The best suggestion I can make to you is to go and try out some treads.Make sure you go to an exercise equipment specialty store where all the sell is exercise equipment. Do not go to Sears or a sporting goods store. Try out all the different brands. Pacemaster, Vision, SportsArt, Precor, Lifefitness, Trimeline. After you find one that YOU feel is comfortable for YOU to use come back on here and let us know what you found.

The most important thing about your traedmill is that you like it. It could be the best tread in the world but if your not comfortable on it you will never use it.

As for refurbished it can be a great deal but you just need to buy it from someone who does a good job of refurbishing it. There are only a few refurbishers I would trust.

Superdawgy - Like I said, we all have our favorites.
 
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Shallow Hal said:
That is basically true. Look, all exercise equipment sales people will have their preferences and try to push you towards the products they like. The best suggestion I can make to you is to go and try out some treads.Make sure you go to an exercise equipment specialty store where all the sell is exercise equipment. Do not go to Sears or a sporting goods store. Try out all the different brands. Pacemaster, Vision, SportsArt, Precor, Lifefitness, Trimeline. After you find one that YOU feel is comfortable for YOU to use come back on here and let us know what you found.

The most important thing about your traedmill is that you like it. It could be the best tread in the world but if your not comfortable on it you will never use it.

As for refurbished it can be a great deal but you just need to buy it from someone who does a good job of refurbishing it. There are only a few refurbishers I would trust.

Superdawgy - Like I said, we all have our favorites.
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Tis true bro, i just have had a incredible run with Pacemaster (8 years, over 500 sold personally and very few problems) and have no reason to recommend anything else in that price point. There are alot of good treads out there, and you made a great point in the fact that there is no one tread that will fit everyone perfectly. Look at treadmilldoctor.com and runnersworld.com for more advice and reviews.

Kurz- Precor has a couple of models that are around $2,500 that are decent. For example a 5.19 or 5.17i will run around that price, come with a 10 year bumper to bumper parts warranty and still give you the Precor feel. I don't trust any refurbishers.
 
Refurbished units are still very expensive and only carry a 1 year labor warranty. You're much better off either buying new or getting one used from maybe craiglist or another place near you.

JKurz1 said:
where can I get a decent precor?
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NJRipped said:
Refurbished units are still very expensive and only carry a 1 year labor warranty. You're much better off either buying new or getting one used from maybe craiglist or another place near you.
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Hmm...its a thought.....right now, I have a free gym membership (instructor perk) so it doesnt seem logical for me, but would def. save two trips to the gym each day.......2,500 is reasonable.......something like a payment plan would be even more reasonable.......you guys have one? I heard good things about the Nortictrack and that arc model......but, If Im gonna get one, I want it to hold up..
 
JKurz1 said:
Hmm...its a thought.....right now, I have a free gym membership (instructor perk) so it doesnt seem logical for me, but would def. save two trips to the gym each day.......2,500 is reasonable.......something like a payment plan would be even more reasonable.......you guys have one? I heard good things about the Nortictrack and that arc model......but, If Im gonna get one, I want it to hold up..
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Jkurz, I would NOT recommend Nortictrack. Nothing personal against them, but there's just so many better companies out there you can go with. I'm sure SuperDawgy & Shallow Hal, would agree. Especially, if you are going to shell out $2,500.
 
The way I judge a company and it's product is by the warranty. If they figure it was garbage, they would NOT back it up with a good warranty because they would lose out. I researched for 6 months before finally buying my Trimline tread. It has a 30 year warranty on the motor & frame, 2 years on parts & 1 year on labor. I didn't want to be stuck holding the bag if the motor went out within 1-5 years from above average use... :)
 
Texas Ranger said:
The way I judge a company and it's product is by the warranty. If they figure it was garbage, they would NOT back it up with a good warranty because they would lose out. I researched for 6 months before finally buying my Trimline tread. It has a 30 year warranty on the motor & frame, 2 years on parts & 1 year on labor. I didn't want to be stuck holding the bag if the motor went out within 1-5 years from above average use... :)
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Warranty is not really the best way to judge. Some treadmills are cheap and thus their replacement parts are cheap. It doesn't cost the manufacturer that much to put a long warranty on their products. Besides, exercise equipment manufacturers know a lot of the stuff they make will hardly get used. If the equipment is hardly used then they don't have to worry about it breaking down.
 
Shallow Hal said:
Warranty is not really the best way to judge. Some treadmills are cheap and thus their replacement parts are cheap. It doesn't cost the manufacturer that much to put a long warranty on their products. Besides, exercise equipment manufacturers know a lot of the stuff they make will hardly get used. If the equipment is hardly used then they don't have to worry about it breaking down.
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I agree whole heartedly! The best way to judge a cardio company is to talk to people who know what is involved in making a good unit. Nothing against Trimline, but the reason that they can warranty their motors for 30 years is because they spend a little extra money and put Leeson motors in their mills. The rest of their warranty is mediocre. Frame warranties mean jack because the likelihood that a frame will break is slim to none. The main problems that people have with treadmills, good treadmills anyway, is not the frame or motors. A treadmill consists of a few major components and a few minor ones. Your lower and upper control boards are usually the first things to go out. A bad deck and belt combo can cost you a few hundred to replace after a few years. The upper control panel on most, even cheaper machines, will run into the $100's. Parts that most people pay little attention to are the ones that you really have to look at. The rollers are vital to a treads operation, if they go out...you have a worthless hunk of metal in your home. You have to very good suggestions on the table in Vision and Pacemaster. Go with either and you'll be happy bro. -Dawgy
 
I went to the Visionfitness dealer in my area and tested out several treads a few years ago and was not impressed at all. We also have several Vision treads in the workout room at my job. So, I'm very familiar with their product. They wanted $1500 for a treadmill that was in the same class as the Trimline model I bought. It was 3 inches shorter than the Trimline, the max. weight capacity was 275lbs, same 2.5hp motor in both, no hear rate monitor, which mine has & was $400 more. As far as the warranty goes, everything was the same(parts & labor), except Vision was 20 YEARS SHORTER. I needed a tread with a higher weight capacity because when I started working out, I was 6'4" 275lbs. I didn't want to make a dumb investment and here my wife's mouth yakking about it. :) I did battle with the Trimline and am down to 225-230lbs and trust me I don't baby it. Everytime I'm on, I have it set at the max incline(12%) for 30-45 minutes at a time. This was everyday or every other day with a big guy beating on it and I have NEVER had any problem with it in 2 years. This is also not counting my wife's workout. I'm not a salesperson, so I definitely don't know all the ends and outs. But, I will say this, Trimline is good for someone looking for a good tread at a decent price. Vision is good, too, but not worth the extra cheese to ME. You just have to do like I did and try all of them to see what you like. I have heard WONDERFUL things about the Pacemaster. They're supposed to be really EXCELLENT! Check them out!
 
chgolatin2 said:
Go to www.fitnessblowout.com look for (keys model) lifetime warranty excellent prices.
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Jesus Christ man! You would think that "Super Jim" is trying to sell used cars! How the hell can you take a website like that seriously. Keys as the best overall treadmill!? Holy shit! That must mean that Daewoo makes the best overall car! It really makes me ill that someone will "smoke and mirror" the uneducated fitness equipment buying population to that extent. Horseshit!
 
I see the Keys equipment being sold by all the scammers on craiglist and in the newspaper under "must liquidate" sales. Don't fall for it.

SuperDawgy said:
Jesus Christ man! You would think that "Super Jim" is trying to sell used cars! How the hell can you take a website like that seriously. Keys as the best overall treadmill!? Holy shit! That must mean that Daewoo makes the best overall car! It really makes me ill that someone will "smoke and mirror" the uneducated fitness equipment buying population to that extent. Horseshit!
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Keys treads are definately not the way to go. I am not really crazy about the idea of buying a tread from a website. Go to a retailer who has a service crew in case you do have problems. That is the other thing about warranties, you want to deal with someone who will respond to your problems quickly. And that means getting a service tech out to you and getting the parts you need quickly.

A piece of equipment could have a lifetime warranty but if it takes three weeks to get it fixed what good does that do.
 
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Schutzhund1 said:
Can anyone recommend a decent treadmill for under $1000 US.? I weigh between 225 and 255. I'm 6'4" and would be using this for jogging and incline walking.

I've heard that you really can't get a decent treadmill for under 2K but that's not the budget.

I already have a cheap ($350) elliptical that I've got good results from over the past year but I want a treadmill for variety.

Are the refurbished gym models in this price range and are they a good deal?
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I have had a POS Wal-Mart treadmill for two years that I paid $399 for with ZERO problems. It goes to 10mph, it inclines, has a timer, and has never broken...$2,000?!?

For perspective, my wife is a marathon runner, and she uses the Wal-Mart Ghetto treadmill when there is snow on the ground.

Here is this years's equivalent version. The mat size and HP are comparable to most others.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...=5151&type=21&dept=4125&path=0:4125:4134:5151

Good luck.


Bluesman
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
I have had a POS Wal-Mart treadmill for two years that I paid $399 for with ZERO problems. It goes to 10mph, it inclines, has a timer, and has never broken...$2,000?!?

For perspective, my wife is a marathon runner, and she uses the Wal-Mart Ghetto treadmill when there is snow on the ground.

Here is this years's equivalent version. The mat size and HP are comparable to most others.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...=5151&type=21&dept=4125&path=0:4125:4134:5151

Good luck.


Bluesman
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Put someone that is 220+ on a Weslo Walmart special treadmill and see how long it lasts. If you've gotten 2 years out of it, consider yourself fortunate and start setting money aside for repair bills over the next two years.
 
SuperDawgy said:
Put someone that is 220+ on a Weslo Walmart special treadmill and see how long it lasts. If you've gotten 2 years out of it, consider yourself fortunate and start setting money aside for repair bills over the next two years.
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But my wife is 220!! (j/k) :mix:

When I researched these things a couple of years ago I discovered that most low and lid level treadmills are built with the same compnents and they just slap different names on them. Mat size, power, warranty, and quietness are the biggest factors, from what I recall. (mine is not quiet, but where it is, it doesn't matter - it still works just like it did on day one - with at least 300 miles on it.)

If one wants to spend a forune, be my guest. If mine breaks, out in the trash it goes, I will just pick up another one...

Later,


Bluesman
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
But my wife is 220!! (j/k) :mix:

When I researched these things a couple of years ago I discovered that most low and lid level treadmills are built with the same compnents and they just slap different names on them. Mat size, power, warranty, and quietness are the biggest factors, from what I recall. (mine is not quiet, but where it is, it doesn't matter - it still works just like it did on day one - with at least 300 miles on it.)

If one wants to spend a forune, be my guest. If mine breaks, out in the trash it goes, I will just pick up another one...

Later,


Bluesman
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LMAO, funny stuff bro!

What you said is true to a certain degree. Taking into account that most treadmills that you see in the mass market stores are all made by the same company (Icon fitness). When looking at Nordic-Trak, Weslo, Proform, Reebok and some of the other labels that Icon makes all they do is change the labels and add a few features. When you start shopping for the "good stuff" though it is completely different. I'm not going to bore you with all the technicalities of roller diameter, motor rating and torque capacities, deck materials, belt construction and lift motor ratings. Just understand that in treads...you most definately get what you pay for. If you want a disposable treadmill, shop at Sears. If you want something that will last you for 10+ years and give you minimal problems long the way stick with your specialty dealers.
 
Texas Ranger said:
Jkurz, I would NOT recommend Nortictrack. Nothing personal against them, but there's just so many better companies out there you can go with. I'm sure SuperDawgy & Shallow Hal, would agree. Especially, if you are going to shell out $2,500.
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I would normally never have thought of Nordic Track - untill I tried some of their other products (other than the ski machine thing). I was nicely surprised by their elliptical offerings. I have this model: http://www.nordictrack.com/cgi-bin/...53&prrfnbr=733180&cgrfnbr=46527&rootcat=46525 It can be had online or @ Sears for around $800.

It is surprisinly very solid. I had to have a powered inclide ramp. It's the only model under 2k that has one. I've had it for about 6 months now and it's used everyday by more than one person. No problems - yet at least. I'm happy. Just a suggestion.
 
As is stands, I'm putting the Smooth 7.1 at the top of my list. $1500 (including delivery).

I'll look into the Vision but I'm leaning heavily toward the Smooth. I'll be making my purchase within the next month.
 
Schutzhund1 said:
As is stands, I'm putting the Smooth 7.1 at the top of my list. $1500 (including delivery).

I'll look into the Vision but I'm leaning heavily toward the Smooth. I'll be making my purchase within the next month.
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Geez man! I'm banging my head against the wall! Smooth is an internet based company! Treadmills break, problems occur...shit happens! Good luck trying to get service if and when it goes down. Not trying to be an ass, but i've given you some pretty sound advice and here's my last tip...SMOOTH SUCKS! I've seen at least 8 customers get burned over the last year by Smooth.
 
SuperDawgy said:
Geez man! I'm banging my head against the wall! Smooth is an internet based company! Treadmills break, problems occur...shit happens! Good luck trying to get service if and when it goes down. Not trying to be an ass, but i've given you some pretty sound advice and here's my last tip...SMOOTH SUCKS! I've seen at least 8 customers get burned over the last year by Smooth.
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LOL...BUT FOR ELLIPTICALS...........that nordictrax sounds tempting.........just dont want it to bust on me..........and would rather spend $2gs on something else (cough, cough).....can I get away with 500-700?
 
JKurz1 said:
LOL...BUT FOR ELLIPTICALS...........that nordictrax sounds tempting.........just dont want it to bust on me..........and would rather spend $2gs on something else (cough, cough).....can I get away with 500-700?
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Can you get away with it? Probably for a short time. The fact remains that for $500-700, you will get a POS that feels like crap compared to Precor and Life Fitness. Just stating the facts bro. I will say that out of the cheap ellipticals on the market Nordic Track and New Balance have some of the better built ones.
 
Also, Smooth is not just an internet based company. They have 4 stores within a hour of my parents home in South Jersey.

Can anyone comment on personal expereince with Smooth brand treadmills?
 
Schutzhund1 said:
Also, Smooth is not just an internet based company. They have 4 stores within a hour of my parents home in South Jersey.

Can anyone comment on personal expereince with Smooth brand treadmills?
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My question is this. Why buy a Smooth for $1500, when with a little negotiating you can get a Vision or Pacemaster for the same price? I heard that Smooth is trying to build a dealer base, but they still only have a handful of stores nationwide. My personal experience with them is that i have had several customers have lower control boards go out and with the exception of one (which my service tech fixed) all had to wait up to 1.5 months to get the problem resolved. If there is a Smooth dealer near by then you shouldn't have to worry about it. As far a reviews go...in the latest consumers report, Smooth got #18 out of 20. The Vision T9200 got 4th at a price point of $1299.
 
SuperDawgy said:
My question is this. Why buy a Smooth for $1500, when with a little negotiating you can get a Vision or Pacemaster for the same price? I heard that Smooth is trying to build a dealer base, but they still only have a handful of stores nationwide. My personal experience with them is that i have had several customers have lower control boards go out and with the exception of one (which my service tech fixed) all had to wait up to 1.5 months to get the problem resolved. If there is a Smooth dealer near by then you shouldn't have to worry about it. As far a reviews go...in the latest consumers report, Smooth got #18 out of 20. The Vision T9200 got 4th at a price point of $1299.
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Pacemaster VS Smooth comparison

I checked out the Vision T9200 and I feel that the Smooth has more features that I'm interested in (I don't like the single screen that scrolls to show speed, time, incline, etc.).

I'm not trying to say that the Smooth is a better treadmill than either the Pacemaster or a Vision but from an mildly educated consumer's perspective (me) the Smooth offers more features that I'm interested in.

Also, the majority of reviews I've read indicate that the Smooth 7.1 has received good or excellent users ratings.

Maybe I'll spend 20-30 minutes on it before I buy it and see what impression I get in person.

Thanks for everyone's input.
 
Schutzhund1 said:
Pacemaster VS Smooth comparison

I checked out the Vision T9200 and I feel that the Smooth has more features that I'm interested in (I don't like the single screen that scrolls to show speed, time, incline, etc.).

I'm not trying to say that the Smooth is a better treadmill than either the Pacemaster or a Vision but from an mildly educated consumer's perspective (me) the Smooth offers more features that I'm interested in.

Also, the majority of reviews I've read indicate that the Smooth 7.1 has received good or excellent users ratings.

Maybe I'll spend 20-30 minutes on it before I buy it and see what impression I get in person.

Thanks for everyone's input.
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Good luck bro! Hope all of my mindless ramblings helped in one fashion or another. One more quick tip and i'm done with this thread...Don't buy a Smooth! You'll get a decent looking treadmill that sucks ass. There, i'm done. :evil:

NO I'M NOT! Go to the link you sent me and punch in any treadmill from the vendor list. It's funny how Smooth gets the "Best Buy" every time. Little fishy dontcha think? Smooth 9.25 vs Precor 9.35...Smooth wins? WTF!
 
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OK, I stand corrected with the link above. It appears to be an online commercial for Smooth.

What I want (and I don't care what brand it is) is:
Max user weight of at least 275lbs (300 is better)
Decent walking area (20" x 54" or bigger prefered)
At least 2.25 Continous Duty motor
Incline capability
10mph or faster max speed
The console should show speed, time and distance all at the same time.
HR feature would be nice but I already have a Polar chest and wrist strap
Heavy weight to make unit feel stable
at least 1 year in home warranty on anything that breaks

Am I going to be able to find this for $1200-1500 delivered?
 
Schutzhund1 said:
OK, I stand corrected with the link above. It appears to be an online commercial for Smooth.

What I want (and I don't care what brand it is) is:
Max user weight of at least 275lbs (300 is better)
Decent walking area (20" x 54" or bigger prefered)
At least 2.25 Continous Duty motor
Incline capability
10mph or faster max speed
The console should show speed, time and distance all at the same time.
HR feature would be nice but I already have a Polar chest and wrist strap
Heavy weight to make unit feel stable
at least 1 year in home warranty on anything that breaks

Am I going to be able to find this for $1200-1500 delivered?
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Ok, go to www.horizonfitness.com and look under the Elite section. There is a treadmill called the 4.1T...You can get that tread for $1,200. It has enough ass to withstand a bigger guy and has a decent warranty to boot. It's a stable tread (for a folder) and runs a 2.5 CDHP motor. 20x54 on the belt and will hold 300lbs. Horizon is owned by Johnson Health Tech (read Vision fitness) and has a good history. For what you are looking to spend, it's a good deal. Good luck bro! -Dawgy
 
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