real dangers of AAS

[bigtasty25]

bump. Also..on this nolvadex thing thats a bit scary..but guess what...i saw completely conflicted info in regards to this...where william llewyn is supporting nolva over arimi in the latest muscular development mag...everyone reading this should go read this article if your heart health is important to you. tell me what you guys think of it. Its may 2006 of Muscular Development, pg 274-75...awsome read pertaining to what we're discussing now...
now i dont know which is better to use if your heart health is important to ya (regarding estrogen control)..ugh..lol..

 

[Wulfgar]

what's considered abuse?

im a competitive bodybuilder and do the time on=time off thing but my time "off" is 2-300mgs primo, and maybe 200 of test(as i get bigger, this number will change im sure).....25mg arimi eod, 200iu hcg eod..overall, is that pretty safe?

on cycle nowadays i might do 500mg test, 500 primo, 300 eq, 300 deca 1/2mg arimi eod 200iu hcg eod. using hgh/igf too (this is my current bulker i just started...wanted it to be relatively safe yet very effective). Opinions?

You know I tend to think whoever thought up the old time on= time off meant well but really didnt base it at all on science.
I mean come on...If I run 1 g Primo for 16 weeks or anavar or something mildly androgenic and highly anabolic is is really neccessary to take 4 months off of everything??? I tend to beleive if we can keep from becoming totally shut down by rotating high androgenic drugs, high anabolic drugs, anti-E's, and non AAS anabolic agents(GH, IGF-1, slin, T3, clen...etc..) we should really never have to take toooo much time off you know?? maybe just a few weeks here and there to prep for another run.


any thoughts on this?

 

[bigtasty25]

yep..you got it bro...when you say off time to prepare another run thats 500mg primo with some hgh and a little t3 while i get blood work to make sure everything is normal..LOL

 

[bigtasty25]

TTT =0

in general...what is healthier for cardiovascular health while maintaining a normal amoutn of estrogen that wouldnt cause much puffiness...nolva 20-40mg ed perhaps? say if i was on 500mg test, 300 deca, 300 eq, 500 primo (current cycle just started)
now that i read that scary stuff on the nolva i switched from .5mg arimi eod alone, to .25mg arimi eod plus 20mg nolva daily..LOL

 

[gymratforlife]

The only problem is that when your on for too long when your come off it will be a bitch to get natural test up again,I know because I just came off after a year and 6 months later and I still have no sex drive and runing my second PCT.I also ran hcg through the whole cycle and rarely went above 900mg of gear combined per week.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

how bout guys like arnold...hes older and has done juice and appears to be fine...except he cant pernounce california...

 

[msam76]

I selected other. The combo of all that makes it dangerous.

 

[darwinmcduck]

I have an enlarged heart but do not no if I had it before I started useing. I think the biggest danger is abcesses from injection. I have had three and my friends have also had them. Besides that, I would think that your natural hormone levels are the greatest thing at risk.

 

[sparetire]

I think the biggest dangers of aas usage is the abuse of the steroid in itself. I mean, look at Ronnie Coleman and all these pro body builders of today. They are genetic freaks and no matter how healthy they eat, no matter how low bf they have, their hearts cannot, and will not sustain healthy functions if they continue to be overweight. I believe if a person is 295 pounds, that's probably well over 150 pounds overweight naturally, whether it's fat or muscle, it's still putting a toll on all the organs in the body. Sure, a fatty has a lot more issues than someone who's like Ronnie..but still..

I was shocked after being involved with aas usage for the past 2 years, watching all these supposedly healthy BBr's fall dead due to an aneurism, heart attack or a stroke. And guess what? They were all well over 100 pounds their genetic weight..

If that doesn't get a body builder, then i bet it's drugs or something to do with their lifestyles..Most gear users were (or are) addicts in the true sense. Is there truth behind the statement that I just said or myth? Most docs know that a lot of speed freaks turn from tweek to gear eventually...I can't count how many times i have read those posts, "I'm on methadone now..." or "I'm on pain killers..." or "Can I drink everyday and be on..." or "does smoking weed ed....effect my cycle.."

I give props to those bbrs' who can keep their crap under control and in check and live the healthy life style. It seems more and more on here and on other boards that the truth behind the lifestyle of juicing is coming out in ed posts with concerns with drug usage etc.

I think, honestly, we're all kidding ourselves if we think that juicing is living a sober lifestyle or just cuz we juice we're the exception..It all comes down we're putting a foreign matter into our bodies and it overall increases the possibilities of us shortening our lives by whatever means necessary to look big, feel strong, and wear our fanny packs. And if we stopped juicing, our lives probably would last longer living in our flabby, stretch-marked healthy bodies with our fanny packs still on.

 

[solidspine]

The only physical problem is when

I run out of gear or my source can’t deliver on time, or if I don’t have enough cash to do the cycle I planned.

Other than that nothing major.