re: the bench sticky article

[umpapa]

re: the bench sticky article

I'm not sure I should be starting a new topic on this but since the articles are on a diff place....

Quoted from Arioch's Benching article
"Clemons, J. and Aaron, C., (May, 1997). The effect of grip width on the myoelectric activity of the prime movers in the bench press. Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, 11(2), 82-87."

Anyone know where I could find this article?

I've only found the abstract.

"THe purpose of this study was to determine the effect of grip width on myoelectric activity of the pectoralis major, anterior deltoid, triceps brachii, and biceps brachii during a 1-RM bench press. Grip widths of 100,130,165, and 190% (G1, 2, 3, 4, respectively) of biacromial breadth were used. Mean integrated myoelectric activity for each muscle and at each grip width was determined for the concentric portion of each 1-RM and normalized to percentages of max volitional isometric contractions (%MVIC). Data analysis employed a one-factor (grip width) univariate repeated measures ANOVA. Results indicated significant main effects for both grip width (p = 0.022) and muscles (p = 0.0001). Contrast analyses were conducted on both main effects. Significant differences (p< 0.05) were found between grip widths G4 and both Gl and G2 relative to %MVIC. Significant %MVIC differences on the muscles main effect were also found. All prime movers registered significantly greater %MVICs than the biceps and, in addition, the triceps %MVIC was greater than the pectoralis major."

I'm not to bright with stats but this: "Significant differences (p< 0.05) were found between grip widths G4 and both Gl and G2 relative to %MVIC." - doesn't this mean that the probability that it was a fluke is < 5%? So it says there's a difference between the grip widths.

Arioch said the wide grip does not stress the pecs more than a closer grip is that right? So I don't know, I was hoping one of you could explain it to me

 

[germandude]

Re: the bench sticky article

The triceps is stronger than p.m.? How come everybody considers the chest a bigger muscle group?
Just another reason to bench with your elbows tucked in.
No need to explain and to me the study proves only that the differnces are not as huge as thought. If you feel comfortable with your technique at a slidely wider gripp
(fuck the 190% though, that's complete rubbish) that's cool. But, as we now know, the triceps is stronger than at least the major chest muscle, why would you not take advantage of it? Quite a few powerlifters use narrow grip to strengthen the triceps. If you bench in a shirt it helps you more on the bottom, you need a strong triceps and lockouts to get used to the weight.
I tuck my elbows in and use a shoulder-wide grip. I get more weight like that and put less stress to the shoulder.

 

[jwwpua]

Re: the bench sticky article

I'm not sure I should be starting a new topic on this but since the articles are on a diff place....

Quoted from Arioch's Benching article
"Clemons, J. and Aaron, C., (May, 1997). The effect of grip width on the myoelectric activity of the prime movers in the bench press. Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, 11(2), 82-87."

Anyone know where I could find this article?

I've only found the abstract.

"THe purpose of this study was to determine the effect of grip width on myoelectric activity of the pectoralis major, anterior deltoid, triceps brachii, and biceps brachii during a 1-RM bench press. Grip widths of 100,130,165, and 190% (G1, 2, 3, 4, respectively) of biacromial breadth were used. Mean integrated myoelectric activity for each muscle and at each grip width was determined for the concentric portion of each 1-RM and normalized to percentages of max volitional isometric contractions (%MVIC). Data analysis employed a one-factor (grip width) univariate repeated measures ANOVA. Results indicated significant main effects for both grip width (p = 0.022) and muscles (p = 0.0001). Contrast analyses were conducted on both main effects. Significant differences (p< 0.05) were found between grip widths G4 and both Gl and G2 relative to %MVIC. Significant %MVIC differences on the muscles main effect were also found. All prime movers registered significantly greater %MVICs than the biceps and, in addition, the triceps %MVIC was greater than the pectoralis major."

I'm not to bright with stats but this: "Significant differences (p< 0.05) were found between grip widths G4 and both Gl and G2 relative to %MVIC." - doesn't this mean that the probability that it was a fluke is < 5%? So it says there's a difference between the grip widths.

Arioch said the wide grip does not stress the pecs more than a closer grip is that right? So I don't know, I was hoping one of you could explain it to me

Is this the article you were looking for?

http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/routine9.htm