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RE: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

mattdan

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RE: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

First, thanks to the straight up dude that diffused my bomb. Second, thanks for all the positive comments below. I honestly thought I'd never come back but I feel a lot better after reading all that. I am going to at least take some time away and see how I feel.

However - Nelson you did get it wrong bro. As it turns out AG guys sells what I was looking for, here's a link http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product.php?productid=16164&cat=250

Now you told me to "man up and admit I was wrong" So now we are to believe asking about a product AG guys sells is an "open source post" as you said? Bottom line is you jumped the gun here and should not have accused me of an open source post for a product sold by a board sponsor.

Now to the reason I asked. There is a link between elevated estrogen and lowered thyroid function via a progesterone feedback. Evidently, you can have a normal thyroid reading, but exibit low thyroid symptoms if your estrogen / progesterone balance is out of whack as can occurr when taking aromatising compounds. A thyroid test will show normal levels. The real culprit is low progesterone levels relative to estrogen levels.

I just wanted to experiement with Synthroid (T4) to see how that affected how I feel on cycle. My intent was to post the results here.

Anyway, good luck everyone.
 
Re: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

Glad your back...Like i said i would have diffused your bomb but i have like 3 karma
 
Re: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

mattdan said:
First, thanks to the straight up dude that diffused my bomb. Second, thanks for all the positive comments below. I honestly thought I'd never come back but I feel a lot better after reading all that. I am going to at least take some time away and see how I feel.

However - Nelson you did get it wrong bro. As it turns out AG guys sells what I was looking for, here's a link http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product.php?productid=16164&cat=250

Now you told me to "man up and admit I was wrong" So now we are to believe asking about a product AG guys sells is an "open source post" as you said? Bottom line is you jumped the gun here and should not have accused me of an open source post for a product sold by a board sponsor.

Now to the reason I asked. There is a link between elevated estrogen and lowered thyroid function via a progesterone feedback. Evidently, you can have a normal thyroid reading, but exibit low thyroid symptoms if your estrogen / progesterone balance is out of whack as can occurr when taking aromatising compounds. A thyroid test will show normal levels. The real culprit is low progesterone levels relative to estrogen levels.

I just wanted to experiement with Synthroid (T4) to see how that affected how I feel on cycle. My intent was to post the results here.

Anyway, good luck everyone.
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damn thats a strong post
im flip-floppin like a flounder on a gig
 
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Man your a trip bro how much juice are you on lol

you are a good dude
should post more tho.
 
Re: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

mattdan said:
First, thanks to the straight up dude that diffused my bomb. Second, thanks for all the positive comments below. I honestly thought I'd never come back but I feel a lot better after reading all that. I am going to at least take some time away and see how I feel.

However - Nelson you did get it wrong bro. As it turns out AG guys sells what I was looking for, here's a link http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product.php?productid=16164&cat=250

Now you told me to "man up and admit I was wrong" So now we are to believe asking about a product AG guys sells is an "open source post" as you said? Bottom line is you jumped the gun here and should not have accused me of an open source post for a product sold by a board sponsor.

Now to the reason I asked. There is a link between elevated estrogen and lowered thyroid function via a progesterone feedback. Evidently, you can have a normal thyroid reading, but exibit low thyroid symptoms if your estrogen / progesterone balance is out of whack as can occurr when taking aromatising compounds. A thyroid test will show normal levels. The real culprit is low progesterone levels relative to estrogen levels.

I just wanted to experiement with Synthroid (T4) to see how that affected how I feel on cycle. My intent was to post the results here.

Anyway, good luck everyone.
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I would never get in between this issue on the 'subject matter' of the original disagreement, but I will say again, that it will do you or the board no good if you were to leave for such a reason. Your presence would be missed, and you know down deep it would always be a sore spot so to speak. If you have to leave or want to for real, do yourself a favor and leave on a good note. You are doing great by re-voicing your view of the situation, and hopefully it will be resolved appropriately not only between you two, but for all of us to learn from it. Good luck to you MD, whatever you decide.
 
Re: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

mattdan said:
First, thanks to the straight up dude that diffused my bomb. Second, thanks for all the positive comments below. I honestly thought I'd never come back but I feel a lot better after reading all that. I am going to at least take some time away and see how I feel.

However - Nelson you did get it wrong bro. As it turns out AG guys sells what I was looking for, here's a link http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product.php?productid=16164&cat=250

Now you told me to "man up and admit I was wrong" So now we are to believe asking about a product AG guys sells is an "open source post" as you said? Bottom line is you jumped the gun here and should not have accused me of an open source post for a product sold by a board sponsor.

Now to the reason I asked. There is a link between elevated estrogen and lowered thyroid function via a progesterone feedback. Evidently, you can have a normal thyroid reading, but exibit low thyroid symptoms if your estrogen / progesterone balance is out of whack as can occurr when taking aromatising compounds. A thyroid test will show normal levels. The real culprit is low progesterone levels relative to estrogen levels.

I just wanted to experiement with Synthroid (T4) to see how that affected how I feel on cycle. My intent was to post the results here.

Anyway, good luck everyone.
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Dude, I'm sorry but you're wrong. You're just not getting it.


Just because somebody sells it, does not mean it is legal, or available without a prescription.

Let's get it all out in the open. The AG guys are treading on thin ice. They sell their own unlicensed versions of certain chemicals and get it under the wire by saying "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" or "FOR RESEARCH ONLY". Show me where it says that on a legitimate medication!

If it were legal you could just walk into a drugstore and get it. You are not understanding the difference between what's legal, and non prescription.

What you are talking about IS A SOURCE. Now they're not selling controlled substances BUT STILL...!!!!

Look, you're probabaly a good bro and you're right about the thyroid/estro connection and I'd be glad to discuss it with you. But if you want to threathen leaving I'm not going to beg you to stay -- especially after attempting to diss me beacuse you didn't get what you want, or wanted to hear.

And one more time, if everyone is okay with anyone openly posting a source. I"M FINE WITH IT. But it is what it is. Maybe the AG guys would rather lay low. Maybe they want the publicity. I don't know. I don't care. But for the last time, synthroid is illegal to sell or obtain without a prescription. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levothyroxine

THE END.
 
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Nelson Montana said:
Just because somebody sells it, does not mean it is legal, or available without a prescription.

Let's get it all out in the open. The AG guys are treading on thin ice. They sell their own unlicensed versions of certain chemicals and get it under the wire by saying "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" or "FOR RESEARCH ONLY". Show me where it says that on a legitimate medication!

If it were legal you could just walk into a drugstore and get it. You are not understanding the difference between what's legal, and non prescription.
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Not to get in the middle of the argument (because honestly I have no idea what the hell you two are arguing about! lol) but what Nelson said was true. Also, from what I have heard AG Guys and the rest of these ancillary sites are next on the feds chopping block so be careful.

Just because these sites sell the items for research purposes they are stretching the wording of the law. I am an attorney and a while back I looked at this stuff closely and I will tell you with 100% certainty that if you are purchasing these items without a script and think that you'll never get caught because it is for "research purposes" you are just plan crazy. This shit is not legal, even if you buy it from AG Guys or any other "research site".
 
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The Old Vet said:
Not to get in the middle of the argument (because honestly I have no idea what the hell you two are arguing about! lol) but what Nelson said was true. Also, from what I have heard AG Guys and the rest of these ancillary sites are next on the feds chopping block so be careful.

Just because these sites sell the items for research purposes they are stretching the wording of the law. I am an attorney and a while back I looked at this stuff closely and I will tell you with 100% certainty that if you are purchasing these items without a script and think that you'll never get caught because it is for "research purposes" you are just plan crazy. This shit is not legal, even if you buy it from AG Guys or any other "research site".
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This is the thing. i'm not saying this to win an arguement or prove I'm right or anything like that. It's a fact, and knowing it will only help you. Denying fac ts, , insulting the person who informs you and then threatening to go away is grade school bullshit.
 
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Yeah there are no alterior motives here.

matt are you just really juiced out man

i have been fuckin it up lately myself.
 
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My point was the site linked in that thread sold powders. Unlike AG-guys or the other research Chem sites. Right out in the open on the board. IMHO, that constitutes a source post. Mattdan didn't post the source but he quoted the post, making it visible even after the original poster edited his. He never edited it either.
 
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Remember when the little punk ass kid in grade school would get mad cuz nobody would pick him for the team and he would always say "Im gonna take my ball and go home".. This shit is childish.. Hey matdan if you want to leave then bounce! If not then stay. 99% of us excluding the guys that are sympathizers could really care less. Peace out my man its been real.
 
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serious!
or let it go!

your an old member bro, youre supposed to set an example......
 
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ive been following this since just after the deletion of the first thread
ive had some serious comments and some silly ones

there will be no more silly comments to follow on this subject


now there have been some strong points made on both sides of this arguement
when i said i was flip floppin
i meant it, ive changed my opinion on the right and wrong of the parties involved at least twice

i am at the point now that there is no clear winner in my mind on the subject and both have good reasoning and thoughts

the peace pipe has been put forward and offered by nelson in my opinion and i think that it is time for a reconciliation

when holy ghost is typing correct english this is serious
lets let this thread go and perhaps start the thread that is about the effects and uses of T-4 and go on
i said it before some of my best friends of this board started as my bitterest enemies
lets hope that can happen here
 
Re: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

Anybody remember that game "four square" that game was the shit.
 
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Arguing on the internet is like participating in the Special Olympics...even if you win you are still a retard.
 
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acneman said:
damn thats a strong post
im flip-floppin like a flounder on a gig
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What the heck's with all the ghetto slang on the board nowadays? I never know what you guys are talking about any more.



:cow:
 
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samoth said:
What the heck's with all the ghetto slang on the board nowadays? I never know what you guys are talking about any more.
:cow:
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way off science mod man

im from mississipi and giggin flounder
is fishing with a barbed spear, in shallow water, for flat fish
this can be done while waiding or in a small boat
when the fish is struck by the spear they will wiggle back and forth
trying to escape
the spear is calld a gig
the flat fish is called a flounder
hence in referance to my changing opinion more than once...
i was "flip-floppin like a flounder on a gig"

come on down to biloxi samoth
ill teach you how to flounder
beer is very anabolic
you should see my ab
 
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ukkared said:
Anybody remember that game "four square" that game was the shit.
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omg u just brought back memories I had long forgotten. 4 square WAS the shit!

I wonder if kids still play that game?
 
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I have a serious "Flinch" at the age of 43 from getting hit in the face alot fromn when I was a kid playing "Dodgeball" in the school yard.
 
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what about that damn game where theres a ball attached to a rope attached to a pole and who ever hits the ball enough times to get all the rope wrapped around the pole wins ??? i think its called 'tether ball'. i remember gettin slammed in the head by that damn ball by a kid 3-4 yrs older than me........ i tried to take my ball and go home but i couldnt get it unattached from the freakin rope.
 
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IM a fucking G at Teather-Ball
We had that shit in Juvi back way back when
 
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holy ghost said:
IM a fucking G at Teather-Ball
We had that shit in Juvi back way back when
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I was the teather ball Yard Boss at C.Y.A.
Juvi was for punks.
 
Re: My synthroid post and all the flaming...

Nelson Montana said:
This is the thing. i'm not saying this to win an arguement or prove I'm right or anything like that. It's a fact, and knowing it will only help you. Denying fac ts, , insulting the person who informs you and then threatening to go away is grade school bullshit.
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lol it's like trying not to talk about the 500lb gorrilla sitting at your kitchen table.
simply not talking about it isn't going to prevent the inevitable from happening.
in my view the "research company" is the one to blame for such blatant open pimping.
 
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