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JKurz1

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While on a clean bulking regimine................
- say you were sick for awhile and lost 5-10 pounds. Your goal has been to bulk up cleanly (staying under 10% bf).....up to this point, you do cardio every morning on an empty tank for 20-25 mintues. Now, do you stop the cardio for a week or two and just eat healthy? Or do you keep the cardio in the am and slam the calories?

2 - When clean bulking, do you still count cals or just worry about protein grams?

3 - You are stuck in a 3 hour traffice jam. Next exit is a subway and thats it. What do you do? What do you order? Remember clean bulking.

4 - How many days a week do you do completely NOTHING during clean bulking except rest, drink and eat? How do you feel and how does your diet chang?
LASTLY:
Post your stats, age, years of training.
 
JKurz1 said:
While on a clean bulking regimine................
- say you were sick for awhile and lost 5-10 pounds. Your goal has been to bulk up cleanly (staying under 10% bf).....up to this point, you do cardio every morning on an empty tank for 20-25 mintues. Now, do you stop the cardio for a week or two and just eat healthy? Or do you keep the cardio in the am and slam the calories?

2 - When clean bulking, do you still count cals or just worry about protein grams?

3 - You are stuck in a 3 hour traffice jam. Next exit is a subway and thats it. What do you do? What do you order? Remember clean bulking.

4 - How many days a week do you do completely NOTHING during clean bulking except rest, drink and eat? How do you feel and how does your diet chang?
LASTLY:
Post your stats, age, years of training.

1. yes i stop cardio for a week.
2. def count calories, thats a no brainer.
3. find a mrp that fits your needs best for macronutrients and keep 4 in your car at all times.
4. this changes, as regimen changes. normally 2-3 days off. not in a row.
 
shortstack said:
1. yes i stop cardio for a week.
2. def count calories, thats a no brainer.
3. find a mrp that fits your needs best for macronutrients and keep 4 in your car at all times.
4. this changes, as regimen changes. normally 2-3 days off. not in a row.
STATS?

So, you do 2-3 days off of nothing?? Completely lazy?
 
i would reduce cardo to 3 times per week while bulking
keeping a meal replacement or protien bar in your car is a good idea or just pick the best you can find at subway which isnt that bad while bulking anyway
i usually work out 2 on 1 off but i usually do cardio on the off days but lateley ive been doing some cardio after my workout so i would say that i usually get 2 days off completely to rest eat and eat
i would still count cals if you have been i usually dont (i know)
AGE 27 190lbs about 10-12bf curently trying to gain using 25mg dbol and 1 omna every 4 days just started last week good luck with your up comming cycle j .i would also not worry about the weight you last while being sick most of it was probably water weight i ws recnety sick with the flu 103 degree fever and all and i was unable to eat or train for like 4 days and i lost some weiht and my body looked flat the weight came back after a couple of days eating right again
 
1- Cardio can hinder your bulking, since you sick I would stop heavy cardio and walk for 15 mins nothing heavy.
2 - Clean bulking you have to remember 1-2 grams protien per pound, heavy carbs before workout and light cards after it increases insulin in your body helps you build muscle. Remeber you also need to supplement essential oils such as olive oil or flaxseed 2 table spoons a day.

3 - Always have a couple of MR packs with ya or bars. I prefer ready to drink myoplex, or something like that.

4 - Monday Wed Fri heavy low rep workouts....Tuesday Thursday Sat Sun off. My workouts still are intense I feel rested....keeps me fresh.
LASTLY:
6' 272lbs 13%bf, age 33, training since I was 16 on AAS for last 3 years, had a couple cycles at 23-24(knew nothing about it then)
 
JKurz1 said:
STATS?

So, you do 2-3 days off of nothing?? Completely lazy?

so i guess most of the serious bodybuilder in southern cali are lazy to since they all alternate off this routine.
thanks for bashing my reply post to help your ass out.
next time i wont bother.
 
shortstack said:
so i guess most of the serious bodybuilder in southern cali are lazy to since they all alternate off this routine.
thanks for bashing my reply post to help your ass out.
next time i wont bother.
lol..you totaly misread me bro.........all I was asking was, is your off day completely nothing??? Many do light cardio or work constuction and consider that an off day....I sit in an office all day, so it's a struglle mentally not t odo anything....I was wondering if this is effecting my gains...........Cmon short, I appreciate the response and I NO WAY WAS BASHING YOU!!!! I want to be lazy 1-2 days a week, just need to cope mentally!!! Sorry bro........
 
Here's my story.......6'2, 185 and about 8%. I'm extremely anal about my diet and feel it's necessary to do at least 20 mins of cardio 1st thing in the morning for mental purposes. I think it's because my last meal is about 5 mins before bed so I feel if I do cardio, it's kosher. So, I do it 7 days a week and train at least 5. On the other two days I do 2 sessions of cardio.....nothing but a little HIIT on the elliptical for 20 minutes, but still....my cals are most likely on the light side as the scale hasnt moved more than a couple pounds each way for awhile + my strength is stagnent. Sounds like I need a week off, but there is no way I could handle it........I just dont wanna piss this cycle away by doing too much and/or not consuming enough cals. I was at my best in college...250, around 12%, and stronger than shit mainly because I knew JACK SHIT about nutrition. We used to slam the cafe buffets, I did little cardio, and just trained balls out. Subway was the king of foods. After every session, we'd grab a footlong tuna and scarf it then go to dinner........protein shakes were of the unthinkable, as were most supplements......although we did slam phosphagain II with ice cream often.........beers on the weekends coupled with late night pizzas were of the norm.........Why dont you just go back to that? I hear often, but I'm thinking it was 5+ years ago so my metaobolism was prob through the roof. I now am a CPA and in an office all day, not walking across campus, etc.........so, what do I do? How the hell do I snap this? DOES ANYONE ELSE SIT ALL DAY ND FEEL MY PAIN?
 
JKurz1 said:
While on a clean bulking regimine................
- say you were sick for awhile and lost 5-10 pounds. Your goal has been to bulk up cleanly (staying under 10% bf).....up to this point, you do cardio every morning on an empty tank for 20-25 mintues. Now, do you stop the cardio for a week or two and just eat healthy? Or do you keep the cardio in the am and slam the calories?

2 - When clean bulking, do you still count cals or just worry about protein grams?

3 - You are stuck in a 3 hour traffice jam. Next exit is a subway and thats it. What do you do? What do you order? Remember clean bulking.

4 - How many days a week do you do completely NOTHING during clean bulking except rest, drink and eat? How do you feel and how does your diet chang?
LASTLY:
Post your stats, age, years of training.

1.stop cardio get weight back up
2.worry about grams of complex carbs and lean protein and fat(good fat)
3.Yes stop, get a footlong anything
4.2-Sat. and Sun. eat eat eat to grow grow grow and recover

6'4" 255 12%, 27, 8 years, 1juiced,
 
Ok..last ?............how close to bed is your last meal??? My problem.......I train at night and find I'm so beat that I crash immidiately after my pw meal........detrimental?
 
I do cardio everyday. I am only concerned with adding LEAN mass, and i am in no rush to do it. I do around 45-60 min of med-high intensity cardio every morning. I lift in the evenings 5 days per week.

I am 5'10'', 218lbs at 6% bodyfat, which was measured hydrostatically. I zig zag my calories between 3000-4000 per day. The only carbs I eat come in the form of oatmeal, I have absolutely no sugar in my diet. Protein is around 350-400 grams per day, and fat is around 100 grams per day, mainly from fish oil and olive oil.

Also, I stay on low doses year round. For example, i am currently using 250mg of test every fifth day. I will add in deca at 200mg per week for 4-5 months then drop it and stick to test only for another 4-5 months and repeat,etc.

I am 26 years old and I also have a job that is very sedentary. I believe that cardio is very necessary.
 
mr.cuts said:
I do cardio everyday. I am only concerned with adding LEAN mass, and i am in no rush to do it. I do around 45-60 min of med-high intensity cardio every morning. I lift in the evenings 5 days per week.

I am 5'10'', 218lbs at 6% bodyfat, which was measured hydrostatically. I zig zag my calories between 3000-4000 per day. The only carbs I eat come in the form of oatmeal, I have absolutely no sugar in my diet. Protein is around 350-400 grams per day, and fat is around 100 grams per day, mainly from fish oil and olive oil.

Also, I stay on low doses year round. For example, i am currently using 250mg of test every fifth day. I will add in deca at 200mg per week for 4-5 months then drop it and stick to test only for another 4-5 months and repeat,etc.

I am 26 years old and I also have a job that is very sedentary. I believe that cardio is very necessary.

will u do me a favor and post a sample daily diet?
 
JKurz1 said:
will u do me a favor and post a sample daily diet?

My usual daily diet is a follows, keep in mind that I try to zig zag the calories which I accomplish though manipulating carb intake.

4:00 am: 2 scoops whey
1/2 cup oatmeal
5 tabs fish oil

5:00 am Cardio

6:30-7:00 am: 2 scoops whey
1.5 cups oatmeal
5 fish oil caps

9:00 am: 1 chicken breast or thigh
2 scoops whey
1-1.5 cups oatmeal
1-2 tbsp olive oil
5 fish oil caps

11:00 am: Repeat the 9:00 am meal


1:00-2:00 pm: 2 Chicken breasts or thigh
1 scoop whey
1.5 cups oatmeal
1-2 tbsp olive oil
5 fish oil caps

4:00 pm: Train

5:30-6:00pm: 2 scoops whey
2 cups oatmeal
5 fish oil caps

8:00pm: 1 chicken breast of thigh
1-2 scoops whey
1-1.5 cups oatmeal
1-2 tbsp olive oil
5 fish oil caps

-I usually go to sleep around 9:00-9:30 so the 8:00pm meal is my last
-Also, i try to drink around 1.5 to 2 gallons of water per day
 
JKurz1 said:
lol..you totaly misread me bro.........all I was asking was, is your off day completely nothing??? Many do light cardio or work constuction and consider that an off day....I sit in an office all day, so it's a struglle mentally not t odo anything....I was wondering if this is effecting my gains...........Cmon short, I appreciate the response and I NO WAY WAS BASHING YOU!!!! I want to be lazy 1-2 days a week, just need to cope mentally!!! Sorry bro........

well then my appologies bro... yes i dont do jack on those days, but i make sure to put extra attention to detail on my diet on those days.
as far as stats, 5'7 190 8% bf and i lose about 15lbs a year due to my crohns, so bulking is neccery more than cutting for me. 23 yr old and 2.5 short cycles (4-5 weekers) under my belt. i also have a ton of certifications as a trainer, but that tends to put alot of confusion in my head sometimes, because a bodybuilders stand point and a scientific stand point are diffrent in alot of ways. i enjoy long walks on the beach and,... oh shit.
 
here you go bro, here's come good advice for you, from a scientific stand point. go to your local 24 hour fitness (bare with me) and do a body gem test ($40). this will tell you to the exact calorie how much you burn on a daily basis at a resting heart rate. there are formulas to figure this number out to, but they can be highly inacurate, anywhere from 200-650 cals off. this test measure you oxeygen consumtion levels. from this number you will recieve, you will want to go 20% above per day in cals to gain lbm, and 20% below when losing bf. i have mentioned this a few times to peeps and i dont think they have followed up. if you are anal about your diet and want exact calculated results you will go do this, as it just came out about 4 months ago, and there is not a more accurate way of finding out anywhere. you will gain lbm at these cals. good luck
 
All the questions were answered pretty well. However, here's a little tip when you are forced to go to Subway. Get a foot long of the chicken teriyaki in honey oats bread. That is the only one with real chicken breast strips in the sandwich. High protein. Just say "extra chicken please" lol
 
JKurz1 said:
While on a clean bulking regimine................
- say you were sick for awhile and lost 5-10 pounds. Your goal has been to bulk up cleanly (staying under 10% bf).....up to this point, you do cardio every morning on an empty tank for 20-25 mintues. Now, do you stop the cardio for a week or two and just eat healthy? Or do you keep the cardio in the am and slam the calories?

2 - When clean bulking, do you still count cals or just worry about protein grams?

3 - You are stuck in a 3 hour traffice jam. Next exit is a subway and thats it. What do you do? What do you order? Remember clean bulking.

4 - How many days a week do you do completely NOTHING during clean bulking except rest, drink and eat? How do you feel and how does your diet chang?
LASTLY:
Post your stats, age, years of training.

Quick?!?! This thing would take at least 10 minutes of straight typing to answer!
 
mr.cuts said:
My usual daily diet is a follows, keep in mind that I try to zig zag the calories which I accomplish though manipulating carb intake.

4:00 am: 2 scoops whey
1/2 cup oatmeal
5 tabs fish oil

5:00 am Cardio

6:30-7:00 am: 2 scoops whey
1.5 cups oatmeal
5 fish oil caps

9:00 am: 1 chicken breast or thigh
2 scoops whey
1-1.5 cups oatmeal
1-2 tbsp olive oil
5 fish oil caps

11:00 am: Repeat the 9:00 am meal


1:00-2:00 pm: 2 Chicken breasts or thigh
1 scoop whey
1.5 cups oatmeal
1-2 tbsp olive oil
5 fish oil caps

4:00 pm: Train

5:30-6:00pm: 2 scoops whey
2 cups oatmeal
5 fish oil caps

8:00pm: 1 chicken breast of thigh
1-2 scoops whey
1-1.5 cups oatmeal
1-2 tbsp olive oil
5 fish oil caps

-I usually go to sleep around 9:00-9:30 so the 8:00pm meal is my last
-Also, i try to drink around 1.5 to 2 gallons of water per day
430 25 minutes HIIT
530
1/2 cup oats
pc of whole wheat
1/2 can tuna salad
1 scoop whey

830
egg whites to fill 1 cup
1/2 cup oats
1 scoop whey
1/2 tub dry curd cc, some rasberries, blueberries, and 1/2 banana

1130
6oz ground beef
1 c brown rice or 6 oz yam
2c of green vegies
large salad

230
6oz chicken, , 250g of cottage cheese, tb peanut butter, scoop of whey
1/2 banana

4pm train

530
1/2 cup oats, 1 scoop whey


830 Bedtime
250g cottage cheese, 22oz of skim, scoop of casein, 3-4 handfulls of nuts.............
 
JKurz1 said:
430 25 minutes HIIT
530
1/2 cup oats
pc of whole wheat
1/2 can tuna salad
1 scoop whey

830
egg whites to fill 1 cup
1/2 cup oats
1 scoop whey
1/2 tub dry curd cc, some rasberries, blueberries, and 1/2 banana

1130
6oz ground beef
1 c brown rice or 6 oz yam
2c of green vegies
large salad

230
6oz chicken, , 250g of cottage cheese, tb peanut butter, scoop of whey
1/2 banana

4pm train

530
1/2 cup oats, 1 scoop whey


830 Bedtime
250g cottage cheese, 22oz of skim, scoop of casein, 3-4 handfulls of nuts.............



This looks like a solid diet, however I think you should increase the amount of complex carbs. For example, have 1.5 cups oatmeal per meal or 2 yams etc. Also, I think you should have a small meal 1 hour prior to your morning cardio session, especially since you are doing hiit.
 
Impossible for me to get a meal in precardio......need to be at work by 5:30am, so I literally jump out of bed and to the gym......it's only 25min on the elliptical, sprint heavy resistance for 30 seconds, back it off 30, hit it for 1min, back it off for 30, etc.........think's its really that detrimental?

Increase all to 1 cup????? What about post-workout, thats where everyone kills me.....think my pre-bed meal is horrid literally 10 mins before bed???? Thanks bro....
 
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