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Quick powerclean and push press question

ErnieScar

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I did these for the first time this morning and I loved them. Just wondering how often you should do them. Are they like DL's and only once a week?

Also I wanted to start doing push press and was curious on the approx weight to use compared to MP?
 
In the context of 5 x 5, original Starr program has powerclean on M/F, and incline bench on Wed which would be PP for you if you wanted to do that sub.

My personal experience was that I could go heavier on PP because of the leg drive, like a cheated military. Not sure how strict you're going to be on elbow position but when I tried elbows up and forward my weight went down, although to be fair I was new to the movement so I was probably doing some things wrong.
 
you can powerclean multiple times per week if you don't go all out. even if you do, you'll start failing reps (not pulling high enough) before you'll start seriously tiring yourself out like a max squat or deadlift would.

once your technique is good, push press weights will be noticeable higher than normal ohp because most of the work is done by the legs which are stronger. your upper body just locks out and supports the weight.

if you do powercleans on a day that includes squats or deadlifts, do the powercleans first, then move on to the slower lifts. i don't know how good your form is but make sure you are not pulling with your arms or catching with your hands, but pulling with a jumping motion and racking the bar on your delts (hands still securing it obviously). maybe your form is already awesome but you'll be wasting a lot of energy for nothing if you're doing them drastically wrong.
 
As mentioned as long as you don't go all out you can do them more than once a week. PC's really wear on the CNS so you'll get slower response as the week goes on. Strengthwise you shouldn't drop much (unless doing them everyday) but you ability to do them will lapse. I would suggest twice a week max one heavy day and one form day where you work on high pulls, front squatting and balancing the motion.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
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