Quick Gyno Question...

[DJLegacy2k1]

So Im not a "platinum" member so I cant do much searching on the topic but here it goes, Im not sure how much help Im going to get.

Basically I havent used any gear but up until recently I was alway a little over weight. Anyways, I recently noticed that my bodyfat levels ahve been dropping but not really in my chest...There are no lumps just behind the nip or just under them, but there does seem to be some rubbery type stuff around the edges. Oh, and I def have puffy nips to go along with it.

Anyways, my question is, what should I try as my first step to reducing this? I have read about several different Anti-E's and such, but no one seems to agree on what, if anything will help.

So anyways, what would you guys suggest I do first?

Thanks For The Help
-Legacy

 

[todoveritas]

...I was alway a little over weight. est...There are no lumps just behind the nip or just under them, but there does seem to be some rubbery type stuff around the edges. Oh, and I def have puffy nips to go along with it.

What should I try as my first step to reducing this? I\
-Legacy

You didn't say how old you were. If at least in your 20's most of your "baby fat" should be gone. If not you need to lean at first to differentiate true breast tissue from adipose. If still present after being down to <15% BF, Int I would initiate therapy with Letrozole. I would advise against gear but if you must, stay away from anything that even remotely aromatizes (E.g. test, d-bol). Deca and winny would be your best bet for a first cycle.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Nah, im not looking to run any cycles anytime soon.

Im probably about 18% bf and still in the middle of cutting down. Im about 185lbs right now, I have a small frame and am trying to cut to about 165lbs. Im 22 years old and 6 foot tall, and havent used AAS at all. I wasnt even thinking about it until I cut down to about 10-12% bf.

I was alway a little over weight growing up...Ive had puffy nips for years, and recently i noticed some rubbery tissue around the edges of the nips that I can basically pinch between my fingers in certain spots.

Need any other info? I was reading about Letro, but its hard to get anyone on here to give newbies much advice lol. Ive been trying to read up on everything, but since I havent used AAS, most people dont have much to say to me.

Anyways, what do you suggest for me?

Thanks Again
-Legacy

 

[todoveritas]

You will be able to feel breast tissue only in about 40% of cases. Is it unilateral or is it on both sides? Work-ups include lab tests for estrogens or other feminizing hormones. Rarely, it is caused by testosterone deficiency. Treatment for the former is with Letro. Look for Liquidex online (AG Guys might carry it for research use). Sometimes this will do the trick. If not, we sometimes give weekly shots of Testosterone 250 X 4and see if this does anything. (After we have tried Letro therapy). If that fails, the only option is surgery. Not very major at all. IN and out in a day.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Seems to be the same or close to the same on both sides...rubbery tissue around the edges of the nips and puffy nips.

So you suggest Liquidex as a first attempt at a solution? For my situation, what should the dosing be and for how long? At this time im not running anything besides my ecay stack.

Thanks for the help so far
-Legacy

 

[ManOfArms]

I have the same problem, that rubbery crap around the edge, not in the center. Honestly bro, I wouldn't recommend you take anything. Just stick to your diet till you reach your BF goal. If it’s still there, then you have two options. Go see your Dr and have it checked to see what it is. There have been many people on here who have had it removed and covered by their insurance. Second options would be Anti-E's (in case your Dr is a dick and says its nothing to worry about)... which have done nothing for me.


I'm working on the same goal, to get down to 12-13% body fat and see how it pans out. I'm currently at an 18% and dropping.

 

[todoveritas]

Femera is extremely potent. For estrogenic carcinomas the dose is typically 1mg a day. However, this is far above that required in treating gyno in an otherwise normal male. There are no formal medical studies that I am aware of but I would bet letro .25mg QOD for a couple of weeks would be more than enough to determine whether it would be amenable to non-surgical treatment. (Disclaimer: This information is for educational purposes only and is not meant to be medical advice intended to diagnose, treat or cure any disorder, for that I must recommend you see your private physician.)

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

I tried using some AIFM, but didnt seem to do much...

So what should I do? Wait till later? Start something now so that when Im done cutting the gyno is taken care of also? or what?

If I should start taking something now, should I go with Nolva, Liquidex, Letro or what as a first attempt? Also how much and for how long do you think I should run it before I decide if anything is working or not?

-Legacy

PS: Thanks for the responces so far! :-D

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

 

[todoveritas]

I tried using some AIFM, but didnt seem to do much...

So what should I do? Wait till later? Start something now so that when Im done cutting the gyno is taken care of also? or what?

If I should start taking something now, should I go with Nolva, Liquidex, Letro or what as a first attempt? Also how much and for how long do you think I should run it before I decide if anything is working or not?

-Legacy

PS: Thanks for the responces so far! :-D

Sometimes it's a estrogen/testosterone ratio thing. Like I mentioned, it would not be unreasonable to run letro .25mg QOD concomittantly with a small test cycle 250mg weekly X 4. This will flip your ratio. If this doesn't work, surgery is your only option.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

I know EOD is every other day....QOD is?...what, Im retarded. So I should run both at the same time? Ive never ran any aas cycle and hadnt planned on it for another year or 2, so you still think that this is the best solution?

Just want to make sure before I jump into anything. Thanks again.

-Legacy

 

[todoveritas]

QOD is the proper acronym for Every Other Day. It stands for the Latin: "Qaque Altere Die". My friend, I am not advising anything medical that your physician should do for you. See him first. All I am saying is: If I didn't want to see my doctor and were in your position and had done the following: #1) Had leaned down to < 15% bf; #2) was over 21; #3) had tried letro by itself .25mg QOD for two weeks; then I would try letro .25mg QOD AND do testosterone cypionate 250mg IM Q weekly X 4 weeks (enanthate ok too). After that only the knife will cure.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Gotcha!

Thanks

-Legacy