Quick car question... Oil Change.

[fitnessgrl8621]

Ok, I was told to go in every 5000 miles to get the oil changed. I'm now at 10,050... and planning on going in this coming week. BUT I just looked at the little sticker, and it says to come in by March... Is milelage or time more important??

 

[PICK3]

Ok, I was told to go in every 5000 miles to get the oil changed. I'm now at 10,050... and planning on going in this coming week. BUT I just looked at the little sticker, and it says to come in by March... Is milelage or time more important??

Typically oil change places recommend 3k miles or 3 months, because they sell oil.

5k miles/6 months is recommended by most car manufactures. You can extend that mileage with synthetic or synthetic blends.

If you want to find lab tested UOA's (Used Oil Analysis) for your particular vehicle, do a search here:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB3

Oh yeah ... and try to avoid FRAM oil filters at all cost.

 

[fitnessgrl8621]

Typically oil change places recommend 3k miles or 3 months, because they sell oil.

5k miles/6 months is recommended by most car manufactures. You can extend that mileage with synthetic or synthetic blends.

If you want to find lab tested UOA's (Used Oil Analysis) for your particular vehicle, do a search here:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB3

Oh yeah ... and try to avoid FRAM oil filters at all cost.

Ok, thanks for the link.

I take it to the honda dealership where I bought the car. Nots ure what FRAM oil filters are, but hopefully they don't use them!

 

[PICK3]

Ok, thanks for the link.

I take it to the honda dealership where I bought the car. Nots ure what FRAM oil filters are, but hopefully they don't use them!

Many new Hondas specify oil changes @ 10k miles in the manual.

I thought that was excessive, but testing proved that Hondas are easy on oil.

Some Honda Brand filters are made by FRAM, but to Honda specs. They're not the "Orange Canisters of Death" sold at Wal-Mart.

 

[fistfullofsteel]

Ok, I was told to go in every 5000 miles to get the oil changed. I'm now at 10,050... and planning on going in this coming week. BUT I just looked at the little sticker, and it says to come in by March... Is milelage or time more important??

whatever comes first. so you doubled the mileage of when you were supposed to get an oil change?

 

[Cutiebaby]

typically mileage is most important. I never go by the dates on the little stickers. All the date is, is a estimated time on when your miles will be up and you will most likely need one done.

 

[fitnessgrl8621]

whatever comes first. so you doubled the mileage of when you were supposed to get an oil change?

No, my car is exactly 1 year old as of yesterday I got the first oil change right at 5k, and NOW the car has 10k on it... So, it's been 5k since the last oil change. I'm going to take it in this next week, but I was worried when I saw the sticker that said to come in by March... It's only been maybe 6 1/2 months since the last one.

 

[mobro]

whats wrong with FRAM filters? i have never heard anything bad until now but you seem to have something to base that on PICK.

fitnessgrl,
is that you in your avi? if so you have an awesome waist line and figure from what i can tell. sorry, just sayin

 

[Cutiebaby]

Yes, what is wrong with Fram filters? I have a Fram and so far so good!

 

[swole]

perform an oil change 3k miles or 3 months, whichever comes first.

i've seen many heads from cars whose owners actually went by this rule and they were sparkling clean

i've also seen heads from cars whose owner did not follow this, and they were sludgy and dirty

try to order original equipment filters

to many, oil is oil, but i prefer castrol gtx...i've seen motors stay sparkling clean with this stuff

i've used fram for many cars with no problems, but if you're worried just get the mobil-1 equivalent

i just lol @ the thought of having someone else change my oil...if anything it gives me a chance to check out other parts of the car that might need attention (seals, suspension, exhaust)

for god's sake have a dude do it, you're hot enough (i think)

 

[jh1]

I'll check your oil....

 

[fitnessgrl8621]

I'll check your oil....

You're too kind.

 

[fitnessgrl8621]

whats wrong with FRAM filters? i have never heard anything bad until now but you seem to have something to base that on PICK.

fitnessgrl,
is that you in your avi? if so you have an awesome waist line and figure from what i can tell. sorry, just sayin

Thaaanks

 

[heatherrae]

I don't go past 4,000 miles between changes now. My last car's engine blew. This one I got new and am treating like a baby.

 

[PICK3]

perform an oil change 3k miles or 3 months, whichever comes first.

i've seen many heads from cars whose owners actually went by this rule and they were sparkling clean

i've also seen heads from cars whose owner did not follow this, and they were sludgy and dirty

3k/90 day oil changes are wasteful and is a myth created by oil companies wanting to sell oil.

If you follow 5k OCI'S just about every other component on your car will wear out before your engine.

Every modern oil ( ILSAC GF-4/API SL) will last 5k miles and hardly any owner's manual recommends 3k OCI's. I'd trust the engineers who built the car.

If you're that concerned about sludge and plan to keep your car well over 100k miles use RX treatment every 5th oil change.

http://www.auto-rx.com/

try to order original equipment filters

Not necessarily. Most OEM filters are made by someone else ... they just cost more.

I prefer WIX or NAPA Gold (made by WIX) filters.

to many, oil is oil, but i prefer castrol gtx...i've seen motors stay sparkling clean with this stuff

I do too. GTX has an excellent cleaning additives.

i've used fram for many cars with no problems, but if you're worried just get the mobil-1 equivalent

It's not likely you'll have a catastrophic failure from a FRAM, but the orange canister POS's you buy from Wal-Mart, PepBoys, etc ... are very poorly designed.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters.html

Years ago FRAM was a quality filter manufacturer. Now their standard filter (the radioactive-orange cans) is one of the worst out there. It features cardboard end caps for the filter element that are glued in place. The rubber anti-drainback valve seals against the cardboard and frequently leaks, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak all the time. The stamped-metal threaded end is weakly constructed and it has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow. I had one of these filters fail in my previous car. The filter element collapsed and bits of filter and glue were circulating through my system. The oil passage to the head became blocked and the head got so hot from oil starvation that it actually melted the vacuum lines connected to it as well as the wires near it.

The other FRAM offerings are just poor values for the $$$.

for god's sake have a dude do it, you're hot enough (i think)

agreed

 

[pdaddyII]

I'll check your oil....

wtf?!

 

[megamania500]

Damn! I've got a FRAM on my car

 

[Megalomaniac]

perform an oil change 3k miles or 3 months, whichever comes first.

i've seen many heads from cars whose owners actually went by this rule and they were sparkling clean

i've also seen heads from cars whose owner did not follow this, and they were sludgy and dirty

try to order original equipment filters

to many, oil is oil, but i prefer castrol gtx...i've seen motors stay sparkling clean with this stuff

i've used fram for many cars with no problems, but if you're worried just get the mobil-1 equivalent

i just lol @ the thought of having someone else change my oil...if anything it gives me a chance to check out other parts of the car that might need attention (seals, suspension, exhaust)

for god's sake have a dude do it, you're hot enough (i think)

How funny is that? Right now I'm laying in bed watching ESPN and surfing the net. If any random decent looking chick knocked on my door right now and said would you come change my oil in my car I would be out of bed and underneath faster than she could show me what car was hers. Chicks should get oil changes for free if they have any idea of what is going on.

 

[PICK3]

Damn! I've got a FRAM on my car

You'll probably won't have a problem. Many peeps racked >200k miles using cheap dino oil and FRAM filters.

There's just better options out there including Wal-mart's $3 SuperTech filter.

 

[Jon79]

omg, change it asap

 

[Scotsman]

I agree that the 3k oil change is a myth. Think about it if oil had a shelf life of three months then why would it sit in bottles for months at a time before putting it into your car. It would also come with an expiration date. The limiting factor on motor oil is the rate the additives in it break down and "dirt" collection in the oil. I run mine for 5k and have for years and have no problem. I also run fram filter but's that's because anyone else who makes the same filter charges twice as much. I also run their air filters because almost no one else makes the same one. I would recommend carquest or napa filters (both made by isuzu).

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[PICK3]

I would recommend carquest or napa filters (both made by isuzu).

Cheers,
Scotsman

WIX Filters makes most NAPA & Carquest filters.

 

[Smurfy]

Typically oil change places recommend 3k miles or 3 months, because they sell oil.

5k miles/6 months is recommended by most car manufactures. You can extend that mileage with synthetic or synthetic blends.

If you want to find lab tested UOA's (Used Oil Analysis) for your particular vehicle, do a search here:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB3

Oh yeah ... and try to avoid FRAM oil filters at all cost.

Gernman Syntec baby!!!!!

 

[PICK3]

Gernman Syntec baby!!!!!

I use that for anal lube.

 

[digimon7068]

if your car is fairly new. . .mileage. . .period.

if your car has a lot of miles on it (which doesn't seem possible if you're months are up before your miles are up), the answer can change. . .as an engine wears, seals wear out and piston rings wear thin, allowing lubricant and unspent fuel to trade places. . .this type of scenario can make the "months" thing a little more important.

 

[SpyWizard]

think of it this way....

your engine uses oil as lube...

the dirtier it gets the more grit it gets in the oil, the more abrasive it becomes

it's like using the same lube for sex more than what is recommended.. so if you used the same lube for sex 5 times.. it would be a little gritty, and thus cause damage to the parts that are exposed to the dirty lubricant..

 

[PICK3]

if your car is fairly new. . .mileage. . .period.

Also, not exactly accurate.

I just changed my oil for the first time with only 2,440 miles on my car because it was 6 months old.

1) to comply with the warranty

2) condensation and the residues of combustion processes contaminate oil over time. Applies particularly to vehicles used for frequent short trips and in cold climates.

 

[digimon7068]

Also, not exactly accurate.

I just changed my oil for the first time with only 2,440 miles on my car because it was 6 months old.

1) to comply with the warranty

2) condensation and the residues of combustion processes contaminate oil over time. Applies particularly to vehicles used for frequent short trips and in cold climates.

i wasn't talking about a brand new car. . .imho, with a brand new car i think the first couple of oil changes are probably the most important of a car's life. . .the first few thousand miles of a car's life, when the engine's tolerances are very tight, quite a bit of metal ends up in the oil pan and getting that metal-laden oil out of there and replacing it with fresh oil is very important.

 

[Mr. dB]

Follow whatever oil change interval is recommended in the car's owners manual.

 

[PICK3]

i wasn't talking about a brand new car. . .imho, with a brand new car i think the first couple of oil changes are probably the most important of a car's life. . .the first few thousand miles of a car's life, when the engine's tolerances are very tight, quite a bit of metal ends up in the oil pan and getting that metal-laden oil out of there and replacing it with fresh oil is very important.

Ummmh ... not really

In the old days that was true, but now machine tolerances are so precise very little metal shavings end up in your oil pan. Many manufacturers deliver new cars with special "break-in" oils high in additives e.g., molybdenum, and heavy duty filters. Honda is particularly adamant about keeping the factory fill into the first recommend OCI. It would be unwise to change oil prematurely.

And, many high performance cars (Woot’s Viper) are tested so rigorously they are practically broken in at delivery and come with synthetic oils.

 

[puddlemonkey]

This fucker is relentless! But unfortunately for him so am I. Die spammers die!!! (and yes Digger I reported it)

 

[Scotsman]

WIX Filters makes most NAPA & Carquest filters.

WIX's heavy deisel filters manufacturing is operated by isuzu. Those are the main filters I buy, for generators and big trucks, from napa and carquest.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[PICK3]

WIX's heavy deisel filters manufacturing is operated by isuzu. Those are the main filters I buy, for generators and big trucks, from napa and carquest.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Wrong

WIX Filtration is not operated or affilated with Isuzu.

Not for heavy diesel filters for big generators, not for big trucks, not for passenger vehicles, not for lawn mowers, not for go carts, not for ...

So, they're not sold at NAPA, CarQuest, PepBoys, Sears Auto, Auto Zone, ...