Questions for you CRUISERS

[Ironmover0613]

Hey what's up everybody! I'm new to this site but not new to gear!
Stats:
Age:29
5'11
205lb
9% bf current
Have 3 cycles under my belt
If you want to know more let me know!

My question is I was cruising on test e at 250mg a week. I received test cyp 300mg/ml 20mg vial from a friend. Said it was pretty good stuff and I believed him, his results showed. Now I switched to 300mg cyp, 2 shots a week so 600mg total. Doing a "bulk" for winter
I am currently 3 weeks into the cyp cycle, but I've noticed that since I switched gear, from test E to test CYP, I feel like I came off. I don't have that being "on" feeling, my pump feeling has gone, and I've noticed that my balls have gotten bigger lol. What's going on? Any thoughts? Shouldn't of the blast kicked in by now? And why would I of lost the feeling of being on? Thanks for the help GENTS.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Have you checked the quality of your gear? it's possible the testosterone was underdosed or bunk.

 

[Ironmover0613]

Should I switch back to my test e?

 

[Ironmover0613]

And if I do switch back how fast will it kick in again? Thanks man

 

[eddymerckx]

go get a test test--stevesmi has a link on here someplace--only way to know and good to know if you have been on for a while (though no one at 29 should cruise (or hormone replacement therapy as it should be known).

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/private-md-labs-bloodwork-15-code-1268783.html

 

[Ironmover0613]

I even lost my vascularity :/. Not as pumped. I pinned today 300mg test cyp. Could I pin 250 test e tomorrow?

 

[eddymerckx]

spend the $50 and get a blood test or else u will never know for sure




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[dylangemelli]

it has nothing to do with the ester switch... did you get the gear from the same place or is it different... without a blood test it is hard to say but it definitely sounds like the gear...

 

[Ironmover0613]

Got the cyp from a different lab..it's just weird though. I'm holding steady on my weight and I haven't really dropped lb's. My strength is still up..lifting the same amount. Even though the esters switched would it still take the couple weeks for cyp to kick in?

 

[dylangemelli]

bro, it keeps coming back to the same thing... get the blood work!!

 

[Ironmover0613]

Update: getting blood work done tomorrow. Let you know the results soon as I get them. I'm starting to bloat though so the cyp might be working just under dosed

 

[Ironmover0613]

Blood test results:

Testosterone serum >1500 HIGH

Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH 0.1 LOW
FSH SERUM
FSH <0.2 LOW
Estradiol
Estradiol 123.4 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL

Is the cyp under dosed? If it is would that explain my high estradiol levels? My natural test is kicking in and I have estrogen floating around?

 

[RickRock13]

Blood test results:

Testosterone serum >1500 HIGH

Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH 0.1 LOW
FSH SERUM
FSH <0.2 LOW
Estradiol
Estradiol 123.4 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL

Is the cyp under dosed? If it is would that explain my high estradiol levels? My natural test is kicking in and I have estrogen floating around?

Its too tough to say whether its underdosed or not, but it is definitely legit stuff. LH is at zero, and Test is over range. Also you show the sign of high aromatization which tells me if your stuff is even under dosed at all it isn't by much

 

[joeblow12345]

Update: getting blood work done tomorrow. Let you know the results soon as I get them. I'm starting to bloat though so the cyp might be working just under dosed

Bro if I go from 250 mg of test e to 500 I notice within a few hours. Once it's been in your system for a while you notice the changes very fast. I'd say the cyp is just underdosed and that's why you haven't felt any different but your still holding the weight and strength. I feel normal on my cruise but as soon as I introduce a higher dose I feel it. The libido skyrockets, weight goes up along with a slight strength boost, and appetite.

 

[Ironmover0613]

Thanks guys. Joeblow I've been on the test cyp for 4 weeks and haven't gained weight. I'm doing 300mg test cyp twice a week so 600mg. All it has done is kept my weight stable. Haven't lost to much strength. But I feel like I'm not "on" cycle. Vascularity has gone down. And I've noticed that my balls have come back to size,nipple puffs went away. Never had issues with gyno. What concerns me is that my estrogen levels are high right now so does that mean my natty test is coming back and fighting with the cyp. If that makes sense? Should I switch back to my test E or just run a pct. thank you

 

[-SD-]

Maybe since youre cruising at 250mg you just arent feeling the blast as you would feel it had you never been cruising

 

[jcnuts]

No way it's underdosed if your Test is over 1500. It could be 3,000 for all you know. And trust me the E has nothing to do with your natural test cause your body is not producing any natural T. You really need to get your Estrogen in check because that is very high. Also you should find a lab that shows exact levels because the >1500 is showing you it's legit it just doesn't let you know exactly where you're at. How long in between the last injection and when blood was drawn? It's best done on the 6th or 7th day because from 24-48hrs is when your levels are highest. A 1500 on the 7th day means 24-48hrs it was above 3,000.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[-SD-]

If you really want to know if your gear is good run it at 125/wk, get a test and if you hit around 1200 T levels then thats good shit

 

[joeblow12345]

If you really want to know if your gear is good run it at 125/wk, get a test and if you hit around 1200 T levels then thats good shit

Let me know where your getting that shit. That's damn good. 125 would usually put you around 600 ish.

 

[-SD-]

Let me know where your getting that shit. That's damn good. 125 would usually put you around 600 ish.

That seems low. I natty am about 350-400 as it is.

 

[bigbassturd]

I can attest to Robolics being that fuckin strong. Had to back off my test dose about 3 weeks ago

 

[Ironmover0613]

I know my body isn't producing natural test but it's just confusing to why my boys came back to full size while I switched to test cyp. When I was on my test e they shrunk down..not to small though. Estrogen is high I'm running formeron from black lion research. Should I switch to something better. And I had my blood drawn Monday and my last shot before that was Thursday before

 

[jcnuts]

I know my body isn't producing natural test but it's just confusing to why my boys came back to full size while I switched to test cyp. When I was on my test e they shrunk down..not to small though. Estrogen is high I'm running formeron from black lion research. Should I switch to something better. And I had my blood drawn Monday and my last shot before that was Thursday before

Yes you need Arimidex or Aromisin immediately. I don't know why your boys joined the party again, but I wouldn't be complaining.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[jcnuts]

Let me know where your getting that shit. That's damn good. 125 would usually put you around 600 ish.

I run 200mg a week of Pfizer Test Cyp from the pharmacy and my levels stay between 1200-1500 so 125mg a week would be around 900-1200 I'd guess. Everyone is different and not everyone responds the same way and I guess we'd have to consider potency as well.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~