Question on Mixing Test Esters

[sonicbeast]

This is news to me, or maybe I just blocked it out of my bank of knowledge due to the fact it seems far too wreckless...but, here's some background:

A buddy of mine is on his very first cycle which is:
test cyp/ 500mgs per week and he's on something like week 8

just so you know, he did not seek my advice prior to planning and starting his cycle, he told me he was on about 4 weeks into it.

my question is this:

the guy he gets it from told him he can mix about 1.5 to 2ml or 300/400mgs with a bottle of test prop 100mg/ml and that would be fine to take every third day. Will mixing Cyp with Prop slow down the release of the prop? I told him that doesn't sound right, because andropen/sust etc have esters that hit you at different times, regardless of the fact that they're mixed together.
Will the Prop injections still be as painful (I've only done Cyp and Enanthate so I have no knowlege about painful injections there)?

I told him this- I said it's not what I would do, but I'm much more prone to estrogen conversion and sides than he seems to have been so far; very little bloat, and his progress is comparable to what mine is when I basically cut out almost all estrogen while on Test

His progress is slowing, and due to his very fast metabolism and very low bloat (he thinks there's none but I can see a little), he may be a good candidate to throw in some D-bol for his last 4 weeks, right? I've ruled out D-bol for me, but he shows no potential for gyno sensitivity so far.

He would be better advised to just throw in the Prop mixed with the individual cyp injections and not mix any Cyp into the bottle, in my opinion. Does that sound right?

thanks for any input

 

[Tux]

He can add some prop and dbol to the end of the cycle, boost his gains a bit and let him start PCT right away, but no sense mixing the cyp and prop. Cutting the prop with cyp would probably make it less painfull, but then you'd get cyp with every shot of prop, so you'd never get that long ester to clear till you dropped both tests. Keep 'em separate, next time have him talk to me and we'll play mad scientist

 

[nautica]

They DO NOT average out. The amount of prop he used will have its usually 1/2 life and the cyp will have its usual 1/2 life. But, in order to take full advantage of his cycle, if he is going to use this type of mix the entire time, then he needs to do his shots every other day or so, in order to take full advantage of the short ester of prop.

btw - sustanon, omadron (sp???) are all mixed ester test. It sounds like you and your friend have TONS and TONS and TONS of things to learn before you start putting these substances into your body. This is extremely basic/simply knowlege of anabolics and if a person has this level of knowlege base, then he needs to be studying not shooting.

And, maybe at this point in your learning curve, you should refrain from giving your friend advise. Not, trying to be an ass and sorry if I am coming off as one. But, people forget that this is not a game. Okay, maybe it is a game, but its not Pee Wee league. These are prescription drugs for a reason.

Nautica

 

[sonicbeast]

They DO NOT average out. The amount of prop he used will have its usually 1/2 life and the cyp will have its usual 1/2 life. But, in order to take full advantage of his cycle, if he is going to use this type of mix the entire time, then he needs to do his shots every other day or so, in order to take full advantage of the short ester of prop.

btw - sustanon, omadron (sp???) are all mixed ester test. It sounds like you and your friend have TONS and TONS and TONS of things to learn before you start putting these substances into your body. This is extremely basic/simply knowlege of anabolics and if a person has this level of knowlege base, then he needs to be studying not shooting.

And, maybe at this point in your learning curve, you should refrain from giving your friend advise. Not, trying to be an ass and sorry if I am coming off as one. But, people forget that this is not a game. Okay, maybe it is a game, but its not Pee Wee league. These are prescription drugs for a reason.

Nautica

hey, I agree...you make a very good point, and some of what you said I should have said to him. I had the same reaction when he told me what he was up to, but what am I going to do?

Obviously the advise he's being given by whatever jackass he's talked to is not doing him any good, and he probably didn't consider the complexity of the various systems he's begun to manipulate, probably thinking this was all more simple than it is.

But there's certainly nothing I can do when someone doesn't tell you they're doing their first cycle until it's already begun. If he had, I would have told him to do some research and be sure to plan the whole thing out before hand- he didn't even do that. But seriously, there's no need to get high and mighty with me about this, my cycles have all gone exceptionally well due to meticulous planning and research of the things that apply to me and what I'm taking. I only research the drugs that I take, and if it's not a consideration (like sust, prop etc.) then I'm not going to be an expert on it, unless someone is going to pay me to be.

I've never taken or considered taking sust or any test blend, so ive never needed to know how the esters interact with each other. Instead, I learned the correct dosing schedules to keep blood concentration levels even to keep sides to a minimum, what anti-e's made the best sense for me, and exactly how and when to begin PCT. but I certainly don't think the topic of my question was "extremely basic knowlege", if it were I would have known that 7 or 8 years ago, even if it didn't apply to me.