My experience with liquidex isn't quite the same. I'm currently in week 3 of a very heavy cycle of test/eq/dbol, and this is my first experience with liquidex. I know that I'm holding less water than usual because I look less bloated and my blood pressure is somewhat under control, however my strength and weight gains are incredible. So far I'm up 21 pounds. As an example of my strength gains, I've added 50 pounds to my bench in only 3 weeks. I am returning to the weights after nearly 8 months, and I haven't done a cycle in 1 year - so I'm sure muscle memory and clean receptors are playing into this quite a bit, though.