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Question for Mods etc about Testosterone levels

hitorbehit

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Hey guys, I have been taking propecia to stop hairloss for the last couple of years. I know this has a bad effect on my T-levels, am I correct in this thought? If so, would taking one of those pro-steriod suplements from GNC like androstein etc help out to raise my t-levels back up? If i do that, will it casue more hairloss probelms? Thanks everyone for any help you can give me!!!:confused:
 
i'm not sure but you have been on it for a few years that might be a problem but there are alot of guys hear who know there sh.t
 
If so, would taking one of those pro-steriod suplements from GNC like androstein etc help out to raise my t-levels back up?
Definatly not. Taking in external androgens will cause the body to lower its own test production.
 
I am not a Mod but Propecia has nothing to do with your test levels, all it does is to block Test converting to DHT and there is no need to use any prohormones for that reson. If your Test levels are low due to some other reasons, then you might consider something real...:p
 
Interesting question, so I did some research. Read the last paragraph of the below description. It seems to indicate propecia impacted DHT levels only. Further "Mean circulating levels of testosterone and estradiol were increased by approximately 15% as compared to baseline". It goes on to talk about the lack of binding affinity propecia demonstrates to the androgen receptors. Hope this helps?? Check the clinical pharmacology description below, it was taken from:

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/propecia/cns/pi/clinpharm.html



CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY

Finasteride is a competitive and specific inhibitor of Type II 5a-reductase, an intracellular enzyme that converts the androgen testosterone into DHT. Two distinct isozymes are found in mice, rats, monkeys, and humans: Type I and II. Each of these isozymes is differentially expressed in tissues and developmental stages. In humans, Type I 5a-reductase is predominant in the sebaceous glands of most regions of skin, including scalp, and liver. Type I 5a-reductase is responsible for approximately one-third of circulating DHT. The Type II 5a-reductase isozyme is primarily found in prostate, seminal vesicles, epididymides, and hair follicles as well as liver, and is responsible for two-thirds of circulating DHT.

In humans, the mechanism of action of finasteride is based on its preferential inhibition of the Type II isozyme. Using native tissues (scalp and prostate), in vitro binding studies examining the potential of finasteride to inhibit either isozyme revealed a 100-fold selectivity for the human Type II 5a-reductase over Type I isozyme (IC50=500 and 4.2 nM for Type I and II, respectively). For both isozymes, the inhibition by finasteride is accompanied by reduction of the inhibitor to dihydrofinasteride and adduct formation with NADP+. The turnover for the enzyme complex is slow (t1/2 approximately 30 days for the Type II enzyme complex and 14 days for the Type I complex).

Finasteride has no affinity for the androgen receptor and has no androgenic, antiandrogenic, estrogenic, antiestrogenic, or progestational effects. Inhibition of Type II 5a-reductase blocks the peripheral conversion of testosterone to DHT, resulting in significant decreases in serum and tissue DHT concentrations. Finasteride produces a rapid reduction in serum DHT concentration, reaching 65% suppression within 24 hours of oral dosing with a 1-mg tablet.

In men with male pattern hair loss (androgenetic alopecia), the balding scalp contains miniaturized hair follicles and increased amounts of DHT compared with hairy scalp. Administration of finasteride decreases scalp and serum DHT concentrations in these men. The relative contributions of these reductions to the treatment effect of finasteride have not been defined. By this mechanism, finasteride appears to interrupt a key factor in the development of androgenetic alopecia in those patients genetically predisposed.

Finasteride had no effect on circulating levels of cortisol, thyroid-stimulating hormone, or thyroxine, nor did it affect the plasma lipid profile (e.g., total cholesterol, low-density lipoproteins, high-density lipoproteins and triglycerides) or bone mineral density. In studies with finasteride, no clinically meaningful changes in luteinizing hormone (LH) or follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) were detected. In healthy volunteers, treatment with finasteride did not alter the response of LH and FSH to gonadotropin-releasing hormone, indicating that the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis was not affected. Mean circulating levels of testosterone and estradiol were increased by approximately 15% as compared to baseline, but these remained within the physiologic range.
 
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