Question for Canadians

[Naeblis]

I'm wondering if any canucks out there have had any success getting moderate shots of test from your dr's. I have an appoitnment to get some bloodwork done, and if the levels turnup low (whichi'm positive they will) what is the normal prescription? Is there anything I can say to convince him to give me more? Also, once these shots wear off, am I right in thinking that my test will just go low again? thanks for the help. Sorry if this has been asked before.

 

[Naeblis]

Another question for you canucks that may have gone through this. Have dr's prescribed anything else besides the shot in the ass for higher test? Is it nearly as effective?

 

[Koivu_11]

euh! No they won't at all!!! There's almost no one on legal HRT since it's not approved.

 

[Naeblis]

I'm pretty sure I read online that Dr's canlegally prescribe it. Maybe not many are willing?? Either way. This blows.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

What ever dose they give you for HRT will not be enough to bodybuild on... not even close.

 

[Naeblis]

To be honest I don't really care about growing off it. WOuld be nice if I got my libido back towhere it used to be. All the equipment still works, I'll be damned if I care most of the time though.

 

[gsxr600]

self prescribed HRT is the way to go.

 

[canadianhitman]

Your doc will only prescribe HRT if your levels are low, and retest low down the road, and you don't look like a BBer. If you walk in there looking jacked, he will know what's up, and will laugh in your face when you ask for HRT.

Besides, there is so much good UG test in Canada, you can get it for almost as low a price as getting Delatestryl from the pharmacy...if you have a good source.

 

[Naeblis]

I definately do not look like a bb'er. I actually have legitimate medical concerns. lol. really!

 

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Naeblis, check your pm.

 

[Bulk King]

My feeling is if it is low he will likely send you to an endo. Most GP's are good for shit and perfer to pass you to a specialist.

 

[PowderDragon]

if he's cool he'l give you more..

 

[jubei]

I would suggest you go on a self appointed HRT regime. 500mg of test enth/week should do quite nicely... For medical reasons.

 

[khaled]

all the doctors that i have visited here are asses

 

[CLOBRO]

I have the same problem with low libido, hard time keeping gains, etc. When my blood test came back with low testosterone, my doctor chalked it up to stress. I'm trying to get in to see a new doctor, but I have to wait 5 weeks.

Anyway, I have decided to go the self perscribed HRT route @ 100 mg every 5 days. I will be getting blood tests monitored to make sure everything is okay.

Doctors will and can legally perscribe T contrary to the above, most of them are just hesitant to do so. If they do perscribe T, they usually start off with Androgel which isn't very effective. I hear the new transdermal Testim works better but I haven't been able to find out if it is approved in Canada yet (was recently approved in the US).

 

[CLOBRO]

P.S.
There is a thread about this on Rippedcanadians right now too:
http://www.rippedcanadians.com/rippedboard/viewthread.php?tid=5812

 

[speller]

if your levels are low then your doc will prescribe you to start testosterone replacements therapy.
I am an addiction management doctor; the majority of my patients are recovering opiate dependent patients. To deal with their addiction they are prescribed methadone which is a long acting opiate. One side effect of this, as is the case with all opiates, is lowered test. Levels. Therefore many are on a prescribed test. Therapy.
The standard dose is 100 – 400 mg every four weeks. So a shot a month,
I always start them out at 100mg for a month, check their levels and then adjust accordingly. Avg. is 200 – 300mg, with the highest I believe is 600mg –for a 64-year-old patient.
No these doses are not sufficient to build muscle, but they will bring your libido back. I would be happy to answer any other question via pm.
Good luck

 

[Naeblis]

Thanks for the help guys. If anyone cares, I'll update after the test results.

 

[b1ewsw32]

To be honest I don't really care about growing off it. WOuld be nice if I got my libido back towhere it used to be. All the equipment still works, I'll be damned if I care most of the time though.

The usual protocol would be for your GP to run the appropriate tests to get the full picture: Free and total testosterone,estaradiol,prolactin and Fsh and LH, if any or all are not within the normal range,they usually refer you to an endocronologist or an andrologist,as a lot of endo's specialize in diabetes and metabolim. Some family doctors are caring and knowledgeable to resolve the problem themselves,but political referals are the usual route.
If prolactin levels are elevated,this is the first problem that needs tobe eliminated. If not HCG is usually administered in combination with nolvadex tostimulate the testes to produce androgen on their own,as this is what you want,right? HRT injections are used as a last resort.I believe that natty test is in concert with other regions of the brain responsible for libido and is much more effective than exogenous test mg for mg.
Usual dose is 2,000iu 3xwk.with 20mgnolvadex/day. If this is not effective they will keep titrating the dose until you respond, even adding HMG(human menopausal gonadotropins) to aid in recovery as well as promoting spermatogenesis.
Once elevated testosterone levels are achieved via free and total test levels,not LH and FSH ria. as this will only detect LH and FSH from piuitary production and not from HCG, clomid will be administered in an attempt to triger LHRH from the hypothalamus in ordr to release LH and FSH from the pituitary gland.
Hopefully this works, because if not further tests have to be done to determine if you have a lack of responsiveness at the pituitary level from LHRH or a compromised hypothalamus. This may include some brain imaging from MRI scan.
I know, it's a long drawn out process depending on how bad you want your natty test, and if having a family one day is a concern.
Finally, if HRT is the only option,they usually give you the choice ofdaily androgel or long acting injections, usually@100-200mgs/wk. as many members here have attested higher test levels does not=improved libido. BtW quite a bit of gp's in Canada will prescribe test cyp. or enanth. right off the hop, since legally, as soon as those testosterone levels come back sub- normal they are justified in prescribing without scrutiny or repercussions from the college of physicians and surgeons. I hope this helped.