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question about why only test on first cycle

8and20 said:
primmo is a long smooth ride. it doesnt kick like mule like test does. it is not a big weight gainer nor explosive power gains however it will be the best gains u will get and almost all keepable.

r u after alot of strength?

well, just wondering how to tell if its legit thats all, just what to expect and when. thanks for the info btw.
 
var wouldn't be a good first cycle. i don't think your gonna get much from it. primo could be if you run it like said above at least 400mg ew.
IMO and i stress "IMO"

you could run any of these for a first cycle but i'd only run one compound

deca
npp
test
tbol
dbol
winny
tren, why the fuck not :)
 
jagerbombme said:
Anavar - oxandrolone - wouldn't be a good first cycle. i don't think your gonna get much from it. Primobolan - methenolone - could be if you run it like said above at least 400mg ew.
IMO and i stress "IMO"

you could run any of these for a first cycle but i'd only run one compound

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -
NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate -
test
Turanabol
Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
Winstrol - stanozolol
trenbolone, why the fuck not :)

Man if trenbolone was the first gear I ever did I'd never do gear again! LOL These night sweats and insomnia are killin me :p
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
Man if trenbolone was the first gear I ever did I'd never do gear again! LOL These night sweats and insomnia are killin me :p


lol, i know alotta dudes ran it and they say it's all tolerable, but from waht i read on here it's like everyones taking something different
 
jagerbombme said:
lol, i know alotta dudes ran it and they say it's all tolerable, but from waht i read on here it's like everyones taking something different

Well it seems like as of a couple days ago the night sweats are all but gone now but I still wake up every friggin hour at night. I've got some mega sleep aid capsules from customcapsule.com on the way so hopefully that'll take care of it. Other than that, I really haven't had any other bad sides. BP went up a little but not into a bad range.
 
My $.02 is to advise you to do a TEST E only cycle for your first time, because you WILL get that kick. Unlike Primo. Part of the joy in doing gear is when that KICK, kicks in. Plus the overall feeling Testosterone gives you is a better "high" if you will than Primo.
Primo is an excellent steroid. Arnold's personal favorite. But for a first timer, I think you will get better results, quicker than Primo. Ultimately, you must decide for yourself. In either case you will want to run for 12 weeks.
Good luck, bro.
 
8and20 said:
Primobolan - methenolone - & Anavar - oxandrolone - is an excellent 1st cycle and I personally believe people should do something like that.

i mostly think it is a good idea as far as sides. most cant or dont want to shell out that kind of money for a cycle.

one of the reasons behind a test only (preferably a single ester) is to monitor sides and see how you react at lower doses. say u run a first cycle of test-e & Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and get horrible sides (acne gynecomastia water retention hair loss the whole 9 yards). which compound caused it? the test or the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - or a specific combination of both? was it the fact that u ran the test at 500mg instead of the usual 250mg? see where i am headed with all this?

another reason is gains. u want to use as little as possible to make solid muscle gains. as you cycle more and more u will find your gains are not as good as the first time and you slowly find yourself using more and more compounds and dosages. so start small.

Starting with one compound to see how you react is a good idea. I disagree about a primo/anavar cycle as a good first cycle or cycle at all. Sure itll work, but both of those compounds are supressive (maybe not so much as others but still). Meaning youll be without or with suppressed test for a good amount of time. Adding in a maintence dose of test to any cycle is always a good idea. It seems many try to push primo only cycles on this forum. Primo is a shitty buy for the results you get. It has a place but it should not be the base of a cycle. If what your looking for is a good beach bod, then fine but if you want some decent mass a primo/anavar isnt gonna hack it.
 
Something I've wondered is when did testosterone cypionate become the red-headed stepchild of longer esters?
 
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