Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Why do most people suggest test only on their first cycle? why wouldnt something like primo or anavar be ok, i know you wouldnt put on that much mass without test, but i was just researchin the fact a little. Could u use primo only as a first cycle if you werent looking to explode?
question about why only test on first cycle
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todoveritas
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BC all AAS are analogs or synthetic variations on testosterone, and bc testosterone is in the male body naturally, it is generally thought best to introduce supranormal levels of testosterone to maximize AR stimulation in the most natural way possible before introducing the more synthetic compounds.
primo & var is an excellent 1st cycle and I personally believe people should do something like that.
i mostly think it is a good idea as far as sides. most cant or dont want to shell out that kind of money for a cycle.
one of the reasons behind a test only (preferably a single ester) is to monitor sides and see how you react at lower doses. say u run a first cycle of test-e & dbol and get horrible sides (acne gyno water retention hair loss the whole 9 yards). which compound caused it? the test or the dbol or a specific combination of both? was it the fact that u ran the test at 500mg instead of the usual 250mg? see where i am headed with all this?
another reason is gains. u want to use as little as possible to make solid muscle gains. as you cycle more and more u will find your gains are not as good as the first time and you slowly find yourself using more and more compounds and dosages. so start small.
i mostly think it is a good idea as far as sides. most cant or dont want to shell out that kind of money for a cycle.
one of the reasons behind a test only (preferably a single ester) is to monitor sides and see how you react at lower doses. say u run a first cycle of test-e & dbol and get horrible sides (acne gyno water retention hair loss the whole 9 yards). which compound caused it? the test or the dbol or a specific combination of both? was it the fact that u ran the test at 500mg instead of the usual 250mg? see where i am headed with all this?
another reason is gains. u want to use as little as possible to make solid muscle gains. as you cycle more and more u will find your gains are not as good as the first time and you slowly find yourself using more and more compounds and dosages. so start small.
todoveritas
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Good points, 8. I think we need to point out that the compounds you selected have higher anabolic qualities (as opposed to androgenergic) and as you said, the sides will be less.
I totally agree with your "less is more" philosophy. I can't tell you the number of guys I have seen burn out from starting with 1gm/wk dosages or super-advanced cycles. My gosh, just what do they plan to use on their 20th cycle? In this game, the tortoise usually wins the race.
I totally agree with your "less is more" philosophy. I can't tell you the number of guys I have seen burn out from starting with 1gm/wk dosages or super-advanced cycles. My gosh, just what do they plan to use on their 20th cycle? In this game, the tortoise usually wins the race.
slamminshaun
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This thread demonstrates why I'm glad I found this site....you don't even want to know what some people I know were telling me to do for a cycle. I think my 200mg of Test-E per week (with H.C.G. and Arimidex) is plenty for now...hell, I'm stacking Phyto-Test, Demarcine, and Unleashed in there with it....I think that's plenty for an "intro" cycle.
Your first cycle doesnt HAVE to be test only, but for the reasons 8and20 mentioned it is usually the best idea.
In my case, I was too scared to pin at first so I ran a cycle of anavar and winnie that got me pretty nice gains which I was able to keep. After that one though I was like "Show me the needles!"
In my case, I was too scared to pin at first so I ran a cycle of anavar and winnie that got me pretty nice gains which I was able to keep. After that one though I was like "Show me the needles!"
primo good 1st cycle
primo & var good 2nd cycle
people r going blow me alot shit about this but yes u can run primo without test & make good gains. add the test when u get a few cycles under your belt. that is if this is the route u choose.
u could always go with the single ester test or a single ester test & primo.
400mg ew for 8-10 weeks.
primo & var good 2nd cycle
people r going blow me alot shit about this but yes u can run primo without test & make good gains. add the test when u get a few cycles under your belt. that is if this is the route u choose.
u could always go with the single ester test or a single ester test & primo.
400mg ew for 8-10 weeks.
