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gonelifting

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I had this posted on the Home Improvement forum 2 years ago with no real luck.

My plywood subfloor squeaks in some spots under the carpet. I uased 3/4 plywood , glued and screwed in. I used a tube of glue for every 4x8 piece just to avoid this problem. That did'nt work. lol

So, is there a way I can correct it now with the carpet still in place? I can always take up the carpet and renail or screw again, but i'd rather not because if it did'nt work the first time, I don't see how this would change things. I'd hate to pull up the carpet AND have the floor still squeak.

Jack Shit where are you? lol



Oh, and I know this will get at least 40 replies. pfft.
 
i dont know anything about plywood but i felt sorry that noone replied so i will:)


squeaks suck when your a teenager trying to sneak in the house late at night
 
SoKlueles said:
i dont know anything about plywood but i felt sorry that noone replied so i will:)


OMG Just like the "Will anyone have sex with me" thread! lol
 
gonelifting said:
I had this posted on the Home Improvement forum 2 years ago with no real luck.

My plywood subfloor squeaks in some spots under the carpet. I uased 3/4 plywood , glued and screwed in. I used a tube of glue for every 4x8 piece just to avoid this problem. That did'nt work. lol

So, is there a way I can correct it now with the carpet still in place? I can always take up the carpet and renail or screw again, but i'd rather not because if it did'nt work the first time, I don't see how this would change things. I'd hate to pull up the carpet AND have the floor still squeak.

Jack Shit where are you? lol



Oh, and I know this will get at least 40 replies. pfft.


uhmmm, strange. you glued it and used screws.

i think i know what it is maybe. is your house on post and beam then? if so did you use regular plywood or treated plywood?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
wait - you glued it, nailed it AND screwed it...and it still squeaks?

bro put your hammer down - you have mice



Yes, but I did'nt nail AND screw the same boards. I ran out of screws at one point and used nails for the rest. Only a few pieces. I did glue everything though.

I'm thinking MAYBE.... I may have not put enough of a gap between the boards for expansion when hot.

Has anyone had experience with nails that break off at the head specifically used for driving into wood through carpets? I have a thick carpet and would'nt want little indentations everywhere.
 
gonelifting said:
Yes, but I did'nt nail AND screw the same boards. I ran out of screws at one point and used nails for the rest. Only a few pieces. I did glue everything though.

I'm thinking MAYBE.... I may have not put enough of a gap between the boards for expansion when hot.

Has anyone had experience with nails that break off at the head specifically used for driving into wood through carpets? I have a thick carpet and would'nt want little indentations everywhere.

answer my questions now i have to go to bed.
 
spongebob said:
uhmmm, strange. you glued it and used screws.

i think i know what it is maybe. is your house on post and beam then? if so did you use regular plywood or treated plywood?



I used regular 3/4 plywood. The hose is 17 feet wide and has 2X4's going up the sides of the house in a balloon framing on the outside walls from first floor to second floor roof. The floors are 2X12 along the whole span of the 17 width or microlam (sp?) spanning across where needed. Everything else is NOT a load bearing wall. It's an open floor plan.
 
gonelifting said:
I used regular 3/4 plywood. The hose is 17 feet wide and has 2X4's going up the sides of the house in a balloon framing on the outside walls from first floor to second floor roof. The floors are 2X12 along the whole span of the 17 width or microlam (sp?) spanning across where needed. Everything else is NOT a load bearing wall. It's an open floor plan.

my main question though is, can you get under your house and see the subfloor, meaning is it on peers and beams? can you crawl under it and see the floor joices?

*edited* make not of my edit in bold.
 
spongebob said:
my main question though is, can you get under your house and see the subfloor, meaning is it on beams? can you crawl under it and see the floor joices?


It's all covered up. I'm referring to the second floor (first floor ceiling). It is not on any load bearing beams. I did see the subfloor before I sheetrocked the ceiling. (I installed it) The plywood is on top of 2X12's spaced 16 inches apart along the whole length of the house. It's all new wood/new construction except for the outside walls of the house.


***edit.. No peers (piers)? It's spans all the way across the 17 feet.
 
gonelifting said:
It's all covered up. I'm referring to the second floor (first floor ceiling). It is not on any load bearing beams. I did see the subfloor before I sheetrocked the ceiling. (I installed it) The plywood is on top of 2X12's spaced 16 inches apart along the whole length of the house. It's all new wood/new construction except for the outside walls of the house.


***edit.. No peers (piers)? It's spans all the way across the 17 feet.

ok i thought we were dealing with the bottom level.

but the only thing i can think of is that the glue you used may have not been moisture resistant and therefore came lose in spots. ive seen that before but most likely not your case.

i had some hardwood floor glued down and the asshole used the wrong glue. well it never really fully cures and moisture causes problems with it.

good luck fellow do-it-yourselfer.
 
Is it a newer house, it's most likely due to the nails or nails already there that missed the floor joyces.

I have an older house with wood floors and my daugter loves it when i bounce up and down in the living room and make the basement door rattle, she's two and a half so we have about the same mentality.

Squeek on Squeeker!!!
 
3x4 plywood on 2x12's and it still squeaks?

Glue's fucked up.
 
stilleto said:
or, its the joists that are squeeking, not the subfloor.
gonelifting, is it just in one spot or along a line?


It's in certain spots of the whole floor. It SEEMS to be at the joints or corners of the wplywood, not sure. At night, we avoid "the spot" in the bedroom hallway as to not wake the child.

Like i said above, I may have to take out the carpet and rescrew it but I'd hate to do all that work if it won't help. There are those screws I've heard about that break off at the top and go into the carpet... BUT? I've only heard of them and not seen them in action on a thick carpet. Worse things could happen, I guess. thanks.


btw I used the contractor glue that comes in the tubes for a caulking gun. The brown colored type glue for wood. From Home Depot. ONE Tube per 4X8 piece JUST to avoid this very problem.
 
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