Putting children on leashes

[blueta2]

So we have met before.

heheh.....well unless you're a 60 yr old drunk in a baby blue Dodger, then yes

 

[walliwalibus]

Tie them there kids up to a tree with just enough rope to reach the water bowl. No I am sorry we just do that to harmless animals.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I can't tell you how many times I have had little kids run in front of me while I'm walking, worse when I have my hands full - typically in a store and since children tend not to look before running and when they hit something they bounce off and keep running (or fall over and start wailing). I don't think it's so much of leashing the kid as much as putting a little fear in them to behave properly and frankly I find it irritating to have little kids running around screaming like it's play time while in a store. So if a parent is at their wits end trying to keep they child in line I'm all for leashes if that is what it takes.

Funny, I used to see the type of behavior you describe on a regular basis when I lived in Jersey. Since I have moved to Texas I have had parents yank pre-teen boys back by the collar of the shirt because they walked out the automatic door at the Target when I was walking in.

"Son, you apologize to that lady for walking in front of her and not letting her go first."

My husband and I were dressed in full "scary biker" dress and it mattered not. It was Target for goodness sakes and that mattered not. That parent clearly cared about the behavior of his children even though on the east coast what they did would not have caused a head to turn. The boy didn't run into me, nor would he have. It was simply a matter of him waiting for me (a total stranger dressed like a hellion) to enter first because I happened to be an adult female.

I guarantee you Velvett, that putting a child on a leash because a parent THINKS it will prevent him/her from running about the place wild and nutty and completely out of control is silly at best. You think a kid that won't listen to verbal instruction and physical cues (a little pinch or gentle tug on an ear goes a looooooooooong way or the old raising fingers with the "I had better not get to three" look) will mind when placed on a leash that is designed to restrict them? Ever see a dog take its owner for a drag?!?! LMFAO

As for the pedophiles and child molesters abusing children more today than they did 50 years ago: the only way I would give that arguement any weight is because the number of people has increased. More people = more nutjobs. But other than that I don't think it is a valid point. It is just that you hear about it more. Sadly, you will never hear about ALL of the victims as they additionally bear the burden of shame which is a weighty burden indeed.

I was 9 the first time I was molested. I told my mother immediately. She was too ashamed to confront the man because he was a good friend of my uncle and we were at a public pool. I actually got blamed. Yup, 9 year olds are incredibly sexy and should know better than to allow an older gentleman that they were told they could trust to teach them to swim. When I got molested again at the age of 12 I realized that I had no one to tell so I just kept my mouth shut but warned my younger sister not to play at this cousin's house because their grandfather (not ours) was sick, the same way I made damned sure that she didn't let that sick motherfucker "teach her how to swim too". Goodness knows my mother was too busy with her head in the sand to say something to my younger sister. When I was raped at barely 15 (my first sexual experiences) it was YEARS, nearly a decade that I would even admit to myself that it happened as it was a cousin who did it. There's a lot more to the story with some pretty unpleasant details that can be saved for a rainy day but I think I've driven the point home that regardless of how old the victim or how old they are when they are abused by one of these sick bastards whether they will tell someone or not is a bit more complex than just whether or not society as a whole has become more aware that this stuff goes on with some regularity and that it is NEVER the victim's fault. There are very VERY strong stigmas attached to sexual assault. Whether we like it or not, there are. And most survivors spend the rest of their lives trying to forget... 'course it doesn't work that way either.

 

[walliwalibus]

If you can get a license to carry, get one. If you see a child getting kidnapped, shot the bastard. I recommend the desert eagle .50 . Rip their guts out.

 

[Bikini Mod]

If you can get a license to carry, get one. If you see a child getting kidnapped, shot the bastard. I recommend the desert eagle .50 . Rip their guts out.

One of the first things I taught my children when they were old enough to walk away from me is that if ANYONE ever tried to grab them that instead of merely scuffling, kicking and screaming things like, "Leave me alone or Mami" (or something to that effect) to scream "STRANGER". This way everyone around would know what was going on, instead of them misinterpreting the scene as merely a parent trying to haul off an unruly child.

 

[heatherrae]

Well, I have to admit that I bought one of those little backpacks with the tails that you can hold on to for Devin. I have never used it though. My reasoning is that once Devin could walk, I didn't want a moment's inattention from me or from him result in an accident. Say for example, we are in a parking lot and he darts off, as kids will do, after a toy he dropped or something, before I can reach for him and he gets hit by a car? Or he reaches for something like a loose shelf before I can get to him and pulls it over on his head.

I don't think that it traumatizes a kid in any way for wearing one.

I dunno if I will ever put it on him and use it, but the little backpack is a pretty cute way for them to carry some of their own stuff.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Well, I have to admit that I bought one of those little backpacks with the tails that you can hold on to for Devin. I have never used it though. My reasoning is that once Devin could walk, I didn't want a moment's inattention from me or from him result in an accident. Say for example, we are in a parking lot and he darts off, as kids will do, after a toy he dropped or something, before I can reach for him and he gets hit by a car? Or he reaches for something like a loose shelf before I can get to him and pulls it over on his head.

I don't think that it traumatizes a kid in any way for wearing one.

I dunno if I will ever put it on him and use it, but the little backpack is a pretty cute way for them to carry some of their own stuff.

There are some gadgets that are definite improvements for the safety and wellbeing of our children; carseats for example. But something like what you described is totally unnecessary crap that they sell parents who are totally afraid of "what if"?

Dear Lady - you are bright and attentive and loving. I had four children and NEVER ran out of hands... I am thinkin that you won't run out of them either.

 

[heatherrae]

There are some gadgets that are definite improvements for the safety and wellbeing of our children; carseats for example. But something like what you described is totally unnecessary crap that they sell parents who are totally afraid of "what if"?

Dear Lady - you are bright and attentive and loving. I had four children and NEVER ran out of hands... I am thinkin that you won't run out of them either.

I get some really crazy thoughts and worries in my head sometimes. I know that some of my ideas are a bit crazy, but then I think that it's the parents who don't obsessively think of what could happen that you see on the news crying who say "I just looked away for 30 seconds and he drowned in the pool" or what not. I may need to see a shrink...lol.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I get some really crazy thoughts and worries in my head sometimes. I know that some of my ideas are a bit crazy, but then I think that it's the parents who don't obsessively think of what could happen that you see on the news crying who say "I just looked away for 30 seconds and he drowned in the pool" or what not. I may need to see a shrink...lol.

Trust me when I tell you that being obsessively worried will not HELP you or your son. It will only make YOU crazy. It is wise to be prudent and attentive but obsessing is silly at best and harmful at worst.

I was RIGHT THERE so many times when any number of my children could have gotten seriously hurt. Goodness I can't tell you how many times my oldest got into eating laundry detergent, etc which made for many panicked phone calls to poison control! A parent can not stand over their child 24/7. What will be, will be to some extent. You have to shut all the scary images of "what if" or you WILL lose your mind.

I am the voice of that experience to the nth degree with regard to that as I have endless images of WHAT IS and still can't do a damned thing. Well not more than I am and have been doing. So now, what am I supposed to do to stay sane?

You just be prudent, loving and attentive and both you and your son will have very happy and healthy lives.

 

[galaxy]

Funny, I used to see the type of behavior you describe on a regular basis when I lived in Jersey. Since I have moved to Texas I have had parents yank pre-teen boys back by the collar of the shirt because they walked out the automatic door at the Target when I was walking in.

"Son, you apologize to that lady for walking in front of her and not letting her go first."

My husband and I were dressed in full "scary biker" dress and it mattered not. It was Target for goodness sakes and that mattered not. That parent clearly cared about the behavior of his children even though on the east coast what they did would not have caused a head to turn. The boy didn't run into me, nor would he have. It was simply a matter of him waiting for me (a total stranger dressed like a hellion) to enter first because I happened to be an adult female.

I guarantee you Velvett, that putting a child on a leash because a parent THINKS it will prevent him/her from running about the place wild and nutty and completely out of control is silly at best. You think a kid that won't listen to verbal instruction and physical cues (a little pinch or gentle tug on an ear goes a looooooooooong way or the old raising fingers with the "I had better not get to three" look) will mind when placed on a leash that is designed to restrict them? Ever see a dog take its owner for a drag?!?! LMFAO

As for the pedophiles and child molesters abusing children more today than they did 50 years ago: the only way I would give that arguement any weight is because the number of people has increased. More people = more nutjobs. But other than that I don't think it is a valid point. It is just that you hear about it more. Sadly, you will never hear about ALL of the victims as they additionally bear the burden of shame which is a weighty burden indeed.

I was 9 the first time I was molested. I told my mother immediately. She was too ashamed to confront the man because he was a good friend of my uncle and we were at a public pool. I actually got blamed. Yup, 9 year olds are incredibly sexy and should know better than to allow an older gentleman that they were told they could trust to teach them to swim. When I got molested again at the age of 12 I realized that I had no one to tell so I just kept my mouth shut but warned my younger sister not to play at this cousin's house because their grandfather (not ours) was sick, the same way I made damned sure that she didn't let that sick motherfucker "teach her how to swim too". Goodness knows my mother was too busy with her head in the sand to say something to my younger sister. When I was raped at barely 15 (my first sexual experiences) it was YEARS, nearly a decade that I would even admit to myself that it happened as it was a cousin who did it. There's a lot more to the story with some pretty unpleasant details that can be saved for a rainy day but I think I've driven the point home that regardless of how old the victim or how old they are when they are abused by one of these sick bastards whether they will tell someone or not is a bit more complex than just whether or not society as a whole has become more aware that this stuff goes on with some regularity and that it is NEVER the victim's fault. There are very VERY strong stigmas attached to sexual assault. Whether we like it or not, there are. And most survivors spend the rest of their lives trying to forget... 'course it doesn't work that way either.

Cliff notes please