Put all my shit back in the Yaris liftback (with easy rear entry) so I guess I'm not trading it in

[PICK3]

you'll find out......

Oh, I know I'm gonna get it.

But, I'm not just gonna roll over and let slip it in dry.

 

[Mr. dB]

Nothing ... I have an addiction to purchasing new vehicles.


also, an addiction to the peen

damn

 

[PICK3]

Both of those are going to be huge improvements for GM.

In the case of the Saturine Astra, it's just a straight import of the German Opel Astra with Saturine badges. And the Malibu is also based on a German Opel platform.

In the future, Saturn is going to be the GM division to watch, because their product line is going to be the same as GM's German Opel division, model for model. That's the long-range plan for Saturn anyway.

What's so great about Opel?

They use to suck.

 

[jerkbox]

you actually drive a Yaris?


lolololol

 

[PICK3]

you actually drive a Yaris?


lolololol

Ummmmh ... yes

http://i13.tinypic.com/2chv19l.jpg

 

[Mr. dB]

What's so great about Opel?

They use to suck.

That was 30 years ago. Things change. They've had to get at least reasonably good in order to remain competitive in their home market, against rivals such as VW, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, SEAT, Skoda, Ford...

GM has pretty much given up on developing passenger cars in the USA. Except for a few lingering older products, platform development for passenger cars has been passed off to their German and Australian divisions. Cadillacs will probably continue to be developed here only because there's no demand outside of the US, Canada, and Arab countries, for cars above a certain size. The only thing GM USA can do well anymore is truck development, and the Corvette.

So most normal-size GM cars will have chassis architecture that comes from Opel (or Holden in Australia for the rear-wheel-drive models), with Americanized bodies and interiors. Saturn, on the other hand, will be selling the German designs as they appear in Germany, changing pretty much only the badge.

That Saturn Astra is the same as an Opel Astra or Vauxhall Astra. The rest of Saturn's range of products will be synchronized with Opel's product line over the next half-decade or so.

 

[PICK3]

That was 30 years ago. Things change. They've had to get at least reasonably good in order to remain competitive in their home market, against rivals such as VW, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, SEAT, Skoda,

^^^
Not exactly leaders in teh automotive industry in terms of quality.