puffy nipples, should I wait?

[fiz]

I'll be 18 years old in April...

I've had puffy nipples with firm lumps behind them (especially the right one) for about 3 years now. I've tried 1 tube of andractim, but it didn't appear to help. I've tried yohimburn but it watered them up, I didn't have the DF version.

Should I wait a while and see if they go away? Or should I just have them removed?

Also, I've heard 1-AD often shrinks them when you're cycling, maybe if I use 1-AD then nolvadex after it will shrink their size for good?

Any advice is appreciated.. I've been threw hell with this..

thanks

 

[SOEX]

Fiz, I know exactly what you're going through. I've dieted down trying to get rid of it, and I'd say I've done a great job of getting lean.

Unfortunately it hasn't mattered. I've still got the puffy nips, and I don't think they're going anywhere. I've tried everything I could think of, all the anti Es, and even talked to some Dr. friends.

This year I think I'm going to have them removed. I've got a friend who is a plastic surgeon, and it's the last straw. I love my body, I love my looks, but when my nips aren't hard, I hate my chest. If you ever find something that does work, let me know. If I do get the surgery done, I'll give you the results.

 

[Mr.X]

I'll be 18 years old in April...

I've had puffy nipples with firm lumps behind them (especially the right one) for about 3 years now. I've tried 1 tube of andractim, but it didn't appear to help. I've tried yohimburn but it watered them up, I didn't have the DF version.

Should I wait a while and see if they go away? Or should I just have them removed?

Also, I've heard 1-AD often shrinks them when you're cycling, maybe if I use 1-AD then nolvadex after it will shrink their size for good?

Any advice is appreciated.. I've been threw hell with this..

thanks

I had the same problem when I started competing in bodybuilding YEARS ago (don't ask how many, too many).

I used my own version of Yohimburn (made is myself w/ some caffeine alkalydes) w/ nolvadex and a low-carb diet and ECA of course. After a while (12weeks), I saw the nipple starting to shrink to an amzingly small size until it dissapeared. I'd suggest not thinking about 1-AD, but going towards Y-DF/Nolva/diet/cardio

Mr.X

 

[fiz]

mr.x, was it just fat? cause mine aren't fat.. theres tissue there...

I used to be 135lbs.. like 9% fat, still had them

now I'm 192lbs, maybe 13% bf or so... still have them

I dont think losing weight will doanything.. yohimburn just watered them up since I didn't have the DF version.

Nolvadex is my only hope, what do you think?

What dosage should I use?

 

[Mr.X]

mr.x, was it just fat? cause mine aren't fat.. theres tissue there...

I used to be 135lbs.. like 9% fat, still had them

now I'm 192lbs, maybe 13% bf or so... still have them

I dont think losing weight will doanything.. yohimburn just watered them up since I didn't have the DF version.

Nolvadex is my only hope, what do you think?

What dosage should I use?

I know what you have, and that is what I was addressing, its' HARD tissue. Which is fiberous and fatty tissue. Yohimburn DF (a few bottles) w/ a good diet and 80mg Nolva for 8-12 weeks should get rid of the problem. Adding .25mg armidex to the mix would also be beneficial. Don't forget the diet and cardio.

P.S. 9% is not low enough for most, I think 6% should be your running point

Mr.X

 

[mrzap]

When I was like 15 or 16 I had a small lump that I could feel if I pushed in behind one of my nipples. I asked my doctor and he said it was because of puberty and it would go away eventually. He was right because I don't have them anymore. Hope it is something silly like that in your case too.

 

[Dai Kaioushin]

I know what you have, and that is what I was addressing, its' HARD tissue. Which is fiberous and fatty tissue. Yohimburn DF (a few bottles) w/ a good diet and 80mg Nolva for 8-12 weeks should get rid of the problem. Adding .25mg armidex to the mix would also be beneficial. Don't forget the diet and cardio.

P.S. 9% is not low enough for most, I think 6% should be your running point

Mr.X

80 mgs of Nolva? Why should he take that amount? Isn't 20 mgs or even 10 mgs sufficient for this purpose?

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

Try Nolva @ 20mg for three months. If the lumps don't budge after that, try bromocriptine at 1.25mg - 2.50mg a day for a couple of months.

If that doesn't do anything, you may have to get them removed if they bother you.

 

[HANSEL]

Hey fiz,

Same problem here, Puffy's since 7th grade, shirt hasnt been off in public since, Im 23 now! I too got down below 10%BF and noticed a difference but the nipple itself was always puffy. I dont think my chest itself looks bad its just the Very Puffy, slack Nips.
Early on in HS I had the firm tissue in there but that soon went away and left the puffy's behind.

I was wondering, Where did you buy the andractim from? I have been thinking of trying a cycle of 6OXO to combat this but havent got any feedback yet on whether its worth a try.

I did some searches and didnt find a conclusive asnwer as to whether Saw Palmetto can help this? I was told it can clear up some puffiness. Mr.X?

Im lost in a world of SuperGlue, Thiomucase, and Preparation H until I find a perm solution. : (

 

[Chuck Diesel]

If I have somewhat of the same problem how exactly should I use the bottle of Yohimburn DF that will be ariving today? Should I only put it over the nipples, or the whole chest? I am worried that if I don't do it evenly that I will end up looking stupid, is that possible?

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

I highly doubt the Yohimburn (yes I've used it) will have such a dramatic effect as to make you look weird on the areas applied to.

I would apply to the whole lower chest if your problem is fat pocket related, or around the nipple if the problem is hard lumps.

 

[Mr.X]

80 mgs of Nolva? Why should he take that amount? Isn't 20 mgs or even 10 mgs sufficient for this purpose?

10-20mgs will not be sufficient for his purpose, for he developed the fiberous tissue already.

Like I said, he can try the extreme route, or he can wait and get it removed it's all up to him. There is no way someone can poinpoint a cure for gyno, all these are, are suggestions.

Mr.X

 

[fiz]

I've used 6-oxo after a 1-AD cycle.. its more for prevention I think verses reversing already done damage.

I'm gonna get some nolva, and yohimburn DF and try it. I'm bulking up to 205 first, then i'm gonna cut down. It's genetic though, my bro had it for a short time, and they're gone, I've had mine longer and no sign of them clearing up yet.

I might try bromo, but I hear it makes you sick and surpresses your appetite. So nolva is safe at my age?

thanks for the help guys.

whoever wanted the andractim msg me.. its expensive b/c you don't need a script, the sites that require scripts sell it much cheaper. I used 1 tube, it did nothing.

 

[Mr.X]

I might try bromo, but I hear it makes you sick and surpresses your appetite. So nolva is safe at my age?

thanks for the help guys.

I wouldn't use BROMO unless you know everything about it...FONZ is the bromo guru on this board.

Nolva, safety wise, no one can tell you that, I used nolva at 15 (a fairly young age) and I was fine, but it all varies. I'm not a medical doctor, but I would assume it should be at least fairly safe.

Mr.X

 

[fiz]

Ok. I'll try 80mg for 12 weeks.. need to get my damn credit card first so I can get some..

What was some one saying about saw palmetto helping puffy nips, I've never heard anybody mention that before.. is there any truth to that?

Also, do you think your caffeine alkaloids mixture works better than yobhimburn DF?

 

[Dai Kaioushin]

Ok. I'll try 80mg for 12 weeks.. need to get my damn credit card first so I can get some..

Definitely post your results bro. I'm interested in how this works for you.

 

[Mr.X]

Ok. I'll try 80mg for 12 weeks.. need to get my damn credit card first so I can get some..

What was some one saying about saw palmetto helping puffy nips, I've never heard anybody mention that before.. is there any truth to that?

Also, do you think your caffeine alkaloids mixture works better than yobhimburn DF?

I doubt the caffeine alkaloids mixture alone works better than DF, email me: [email protected]
I'll go over somethings w/ you...put PUFFY nipples in the title
do this before you get nolva...

Mr.X

 

[MiamiStyle245]

Same problem here guys...puffy with fibrous mass. Mr. X, are there any possible adverse sides to using nolva in those dosages? What do you think about running the nolva simultaneously with 20mg var daily for those 8-12. Could that cause any probs? Thanks

 

[Mr.X]

Same problem here guys...puffy with fibrous mass. Mr. X, are there any possible adverse sides to using nolva in those dosages? What do you think about running the nolva simultaneously with 20mg var daily for those 8-12. Could that cause any probs? Thanks

*******read my earlier post*********
Nolva, safety wise, no one can tell you that, I used nolva at 15 (a fairly young age) and I was fine, but it all varies. I'm not a medical doctor, but I would assume it should be at least fairly safe.
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I would think running var wouldn't change your nipple situation, but it would be a good bridge if anything.

Mr.X

 

[MiamiStyle245]

Mr. X, I read your earlier posts. I am sorry about not wording my question correctly. I meant to ask if you experienced amy sides at that dosage. I was thinking about running the var with the nolva and yohimburn DF mostly for anticatabolic purposes. When I hit the DF+nolva, I want to cut down really low so that I can determine for once and all whether I should go under the knife. I want to preserve as much muscle as possible, so I had var in mind at a low dosage. What do you think?

 

[Mr.X]

Mr. X, I read your earlier posts. I am sorry about not wording my question correctly. I meant to ask if you experienced amy sides at that dosage. I was thinking about running the var with the nolva and yohimburn DF mostly for anticatabolic purposes. When I hit the DF+nolva, I want to cut down really low so that I can determine for once and all whether I should go under the knife. I want to preserve as much muscle as possible, so I had var in mind at a low dosage. What do you think?

Oh, I never experienced sides and I used over 80mgs before...but that varies from person to person.

I would think adding var would be a good idea for anti-catabolic purposes. Plus, the idea of dropping to a low bf is great too, so you know what's going on w/ the fiberous tissue when you're done.

Mr.X

 

[MiamiStyle245]

Sounds good Mr. X...thanks for the advice.

What do you think of the generic nolvas? I usually order from Masters Marketing, but haven't used the generics before. They are much cheaper. Any experience/input? Same effect?

Thanks a lot.

 

[Mr.X]

Sounds good Mr. X...thanks for the advice.

What do you think of the generic nolvas? I usually order from Masters Marketing, but haven't used the generics before. They are much cheaper. Any experience/input? Same effect?

Thanks a lot.

I only use generic products, they are cheaper and still just as effective as the next. Great stuff.....

Mr.X

 

[MiamiStyle245]

Last question: Should I spread the nolva evenly throughout the day in say five or six doses? Or should I take the whole 80 in the morning?

Thanks for your help.