Psychological effects during PCT

[hardgainer183]

Hi all,

I have done 3 cycles thus far.

Cycle 1: 12 weeks, Test E 500mg/Dbol Kickstart
Arimidex around .25mg eod/e3d towards the end
PCT consisted of Nolva 40/40/20/20

Cycle 2: 12 weeks, Test P 500mg kickstart/Test E 500mg/Masteron 500mg/Anavar last 6 weeks (bridged into PCT
Arimidex .25mg to start, tapered to nothing due to Masteron
PCT consisted of Nolva 40/40/20/20

Cycle 3: 10 weeks Test prop 300mg/Tren A 500 mg
Arimidex .25-.5mg eod. Gyno flared, started using letro to knock it out.
PCT consisted of Nolva 40/40/20/20

Onto my question. My first cycle PCT went great. I was a little tired but no psychological effects. My second cycle was a little bit more rough psychologically, slight depression/anxiety/jealousy issues. My third cycle PCT was ridiculous. Extreme depression for two weeks, jealous, anxiety the whole bit. I feel like my cortisol was through the roof, so I started taking suppress C and it seemed to help quite a bit with all of those problems (bare in mind, i was in about week 3 of PCT at the time so maybe my test was just coming back.)

I took the standard time on+PCT = time off approach to all my cycles. I told myself during the depression phase of my Tren cycle PCT that I would never cycle again. Obviously now that that has worn off, I want to do something again . I plan on doing the similar run of my first cycle to see how I respond in PCT this time.

Does anyone have experience with the reasoning behind the psychological effects being different on certain compounds? I understand this is part of the game and you just have to push through it during PCT. Any advice on reducing them as a side effect?

 

[RickRock13]

Well, your PCT sucked for all 3 cycles so that's a major part of the problem. The first time you bounced back easily because it was the first time you suppressed yourself. Then the next time you shut yourself down again, and recovery got more difficult. You didn't have the proper PCT to recover and unless you took a long time off it just set you up for disaster on your 3rd cycle. Those psychological effects come from having low test levels and not recovering. A serm alone isn't going to do it for recovery. A proper PCT should look like this:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Test Stack 3 caps per day
Ostarine 25mg per day

 

[hardgainer183]

Can you advise me on what "test stack" is? I used a test booster for all three cycles during PCT. I felt I was properly recovered after each one, but I didn't get bloodwork (I should be doing this to tell for sure). I would get acne during PCT and by the time it went away was roughly a few weeks before my scheduled time to go back on. Is there any "good" way to tell that you have fully recovered without getting bloodwork? My libido typically comes back quick but my "head" doesnt seem to recover for a couple months.

 

[RickRock13]

Can you advise me on what "test stack" is? I used a test booster for all three cycles during PCT. I felt I was properly recovered after each one, but I didn't get bloodwork (I should be doing this to tell for sure). I would get acne during PCT and by the time it went away was roughly a few weeks before my scheduled time to go back on. Is there any "good" way to tell that you have fully recovered without getting bloodwork? My libido typically comes back quick but my "head" doesnt seem to recover for a couple months.

No, there is no way to tell you fully recover without bloodwork. Having a libido and acne doesn't mean you recovered. Acne can develop anytime there is a swing in hormone levels. That come from an increase in hormones (going on cycle) or a decrease in hormones (coming off of high hormones). It has nothing to do with your natural test levels. How long did you wait after each PCT before you started another cycle?

 

[hardgainer183]

I followed the exact protocol of time on + PCT = time off. So somewhere in the 16-20 week period.

 

[dylangemelli]

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[hardgainer183]

Although this significantly increases the cost of my cycle, it would definitely be worth it, especially if I can hold on to more of my gains. I'll try it out and report back. Thanks guys.

 

[RickRock13]

Although this significantly increases the cost of my cycle, it would definitely be worth it, especially if I can hold on to more of my gains. I'll try it out and report back. Thanks guys.

You never want to short your PCT. That's where you want to the most you can for recovery and to keep the most amount of gains possible

 

[Shrine1]

Although this significantly increases the cost of my cycle, it would definitely be worth it, especially if I can hold on to more of my gains. I'll try it out and report back. Thanks guys.

PCT is so crucial.. you've gotten some great advice. Run a proper pct and you will keep hard earned gains get your body back to homeostasis. Spend the money and do it right

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