Proviron and the HPTA

[Smokescreen]

Does anyone know if Proviron messes with your HPTA? Also, I'm in the process of doing an aggressive PCT. And most likey NOT going back on gear ever again.

So my 2 questions are:

1- Does proviron mess with your HPTA?

2- Is taking proviron during a PCT a bad idea?

one more question...

 

[st8grad]

Don't take the proviron with PCT. Some say it isn't suppressive but I think that is BS. Besides, if you are never going to touch gear again, then just clean it out now. Try something like Unleashed for SHBG.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Proviron most certainly is supressive.

I wrote about this in my books and in articles years ago. I thought Proviron wasn't a bad idea as an anti e or for PC T because it blocked S H B G, and it had less sides than Clomid. But at some point you need to recover from the Proviron! Now with natural, non supressive options for blocking S H B G (UNLEASHED) there's no need for Proviron. That's not to say that UNLEASHED is as powerful or will give the same "muscle hardness" that Proviron is so good at doing, but it comes close and with no sides, which in many ways makes it a better option, especially for PC T.

 

[Smokescreen]

Yeah but really...how will it suppress our hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - ? Doesn't the HPTA get suppressed when it senses too much estrogen? It doesnt get suppressed if it senses too much androgens.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yeah but really...how will it suppress our hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - ? Doesn't the HPTA get suppressed when it senses too much estrogen? It doesnt get suppressed if it senses too much androgens.

Over 5000 posts and you don't know this? I'm not trying to be a dick but that is really far off. If that were the case all anyone would need to do is take anti e's and they'd never get supressed. It just doesn't work that way. It is PART of the equation but a very, very small part. Have you been reading stuff by Pat Arnold? Don't do that. He's a fool.

 

[Smokescreen]

Ok..I'm about to hijack my own thread. What about GH? If the body senses too much GH. Can that too suppress the HPTA?

 

[enacer420nj]

Ok..I'm about to hijack my own thread. What about gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - ? If the body senses too much GH. Can that too suppress the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - ?

No

 

[MorganKane]

I used Proviron during PCT for my last 2 cycles and I did better then before I would say.
I felt recovery went well and I did not fell as "down" as without it.

Used 40mg ED.

I will use it again.

 

[st8grad]

I used Proviron during PCT - post cycle therapy - for my last 2 cycles and I did better then before I would say.
I felt recovery went well and I did not fell as "down" as without it.

Used 40mg ED.

I will use it again.

Of course you didn't feel as down as without it.

 

[st8grad]

Ok..I'm about to hijack my own thread. What about gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - ? If the body senses too much GH. Can that too suppress the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - ?

No. Negative feedback loop.

 

[samoth]

Proviron is mesterolone -- an androgen. You know what the testosterone molecule looks like, right? Proviron isn't all that different from a quick glance:

And we know that any exogeneous androgens will cause some degree of suppression.

 

[Nelson Montana]

As for exogenous G.H, it will not surpress the HP TA but it will supress natural G.H secretion.