Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Has anyone ever had this type of kidney problem before??? I was told by my doctor that i was pissing out a particular protien that helps you get rid of fluids from your body. This protien should not be coming out in my urine but my kidneys are not working like they should. Kind of worried cause i am not sure if this will pass or if i have caused permanent damage to my kidneys or not. Anyway i am retaining water, my blood work for this will be in on Wed and ill fill everyone in on an update on this issue. Has anyone ever experienced this off of a cycle??? Just looking to see what anyone has to say.
Proteinuria had to cut cycle short
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bigtasty25
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u r holding water and ure blood pressure is prob high too which places the stress on ure kidneys bro...u need some altace to bring ure bp down...its an ace inhibitor which also reverses proteinuria...ask your doc about this..my doc told me this...u should def look into it...and make sure ure bp is normal..that will place the most stress on ure kidneys..and get rid of the water bloat asap...letro works great for this...arimi is ok..
lanky
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ap282 said:
elevated BP can cause proteinuria, any H/O high BP?....how about diabetes? previous hospitalizations for infections? Medications and supplements(this inclused AAS)? It is good that you got bloodwork done,will shed some light on the possible cause? You may want to invest in a aoutomatic BP cuff regardless if BP is the issue. you can test the entire family...there is a reason why elevated BP is called the silent killer.
macrophage69alpha
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not drinking enough water
bigtasty25 said:
My blood pressure is 144/88. That was checked today at the doctors office. I have been off of aas for about 2.5 weeks. I am on Letro from AG guys and have noticed no difference as far as less water retension. I hope your right about altace, i am going to research this today. Do you think that my kidneys have been damaged beyond fixing?? This is my main concern.
lanky said:
Yeah my BP today was 144/88, which is high. No diabetes, and no previous hospitalizations for infections. I was on EQ for about 8 weeks, i did Tren for 4 weeks, and Test Prop for 5 weeks, i traded the prop for winny after week 5. Do you think that i have caused damage to my kidneys that is beyond fixing, or do you think this will eventually pass??? This is my main concern.
bigtasty25
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what were the last compounds u went off of 2.5 weeks ago? anything long acting? if so, thats prob why ure values r still elevated my friend...
and no theyre not damaged beyond fixing...proteinuria...excreting protein...is just the first sign of kidney damage...its slight...and my guess is a large % of steroid using bb;'ers have this buy they just dont know it, its kinda common, but aLtace can help reverse it, and DO drink alot of water, at the very least 1 gal daily, and even 1.,5 is better..get these questions answered conclusively by a doc though ..
and no theyre not damaged beyond fixing...proteinuria...excreting protein...is just the first sign of kidney damage...its slight...and my guess is a large % of steroid using bb;'ers have this buy they just dont know it, its kinda common, but aLtace can help reverse it, and DO drink alot of water, at the very least 1 gal daily, and even 1.,5 is better..get these questions answered conclusively by a doc though ..
bigtasty25 said:
I was on EQ that would be the longest acting ester i was cycling last. Well glad to hear that this protienuria has not damaged my kidneys beyond fixing. I made an appointment with my doc for next monday but the results for my blood work will be ready by Wed so i am goning in on wed to talk to another doc that can tell me what i need to do.
bigtasty25
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yep eq can definately raise bp...even on short acting esters my levels were raised the first week or 10 days i was off cycle so 2.,5 weeks off and u can still get the effects off it sure...but do go see the doc thats a wise move
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bigtasty25 said:
Thanks bro i will keep you posted on what happens next. The doc was already trying to get me to see a kidney specialist. So after this wed i am going to make an appointment if the doc tells me i should. I need to get back to equilibrium for sure. I will probably stay off of AAS for at least a year to allow my body to completely recover. I am still on PCT of clomid, letro, and nolva. Do you think that this might aid to my kidney problem?
macrophage69alpha
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nolva is hard on the liver and has modulatory effects in the kidneys which can be both positive and negative depending on the hormonal environment. However most of the effects in non disease states are negative. CLomifen does not seem to have negative impact on kidneys but does place strain on liver (though does not induce hyperplasia of liver cells (cancer induction) as tamoxifen does- high dose studies)
macrophage69alpha
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would drop the nolva and run clomid and letro.
increase water intake... IMHO 1gal per 120lbs of body weight is minimum for people eating a high protein diet.
what is your protein intake like? grams per day and grams per meal?
increase water intake... IMHO 1gal per 120lbs of body weight is minimum for people eating a high protein diet.
what is your protein intake like? grams per day and grams per meal?
macrophage69alpha said:
My protien grams per day are at 250-300 grams. I try to average 30-50 grams per meal. I will cut the Nolvadex out of my PCT and continue running the Clomid and Letro. Thanks for the advice bro. Still drinking no less than 1.5 gallons of water a day, have noticed a small difference in the past 3 weeks i have been doing this.
macrophage69alpha
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what is your body weight?
macrophage69alpha
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cut your protein to 200grams or less, at least until you get a "clean bill of health. you can get by with 160g pretty easily (maintainance).
bigtasty25
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what's Lanky?
dumb comment but i didnt know high protein diet's are hard on the kidneys...are u sure of that macro? I'd take ure word over most anyone's on here though..
i didnt know nolva places strain on the liver...at least in anabolics2005 it doesnt say that...is it significant? What about proviron? Ive been using it continuously lately, off and on cycle... I know it places a little stress..but is it any worse or less than that which nolva does?
In that case ill be using arimi over nolva from now on LOL.
dumb comment but i didnt know high protein diet's are hard on the kidneys...are u sure of that macro? I'd take ure word over most anyone's on here though..
i didnt know nolva places strain on the liver...at least in anabolics2005 it doesnt say that...is it significant? What about proviron? Ive been using it continuously lately, off and on cycle... I know it places a little stress..but is it any worse or less than that which nolva does?
In that case ill be using arimi over nolva from now on LOL.
Kidneys filter the protein, sometimes dietary or globular protein leaks through when it isnt supposed to, this can be from several reasons.
Lanky is a dudes name, he posted in this thread.
Hepatic or renal problems= lower protein intake needed (damn near zero in some hepatic conditions....liver cant transdeaminiate the proteins properly).
Serum creatinine levels? I think its your protein intake, post the numbers of the blood/urine work, we need to see what else is going on there.
Lanky is a dudes name, he posted in this thread.
Hepatic or renal problems= lower protein intake needed (damn near zero in some hepatic conditions....liver cant transdeaminiate the proteins properly).
Serum creatinine levels? I think its your protein intake, post the numbers of the blood/urine work, we need to see what else is going on there.
bigtasty25
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ttt
bigrand said:
I was supposed to see a nephrologist today but it got postponed. I spoke with a general doctor again today as this doctor was the one that could refer me to a nephrologist. My blood work came back almost normal except my cholesterol was LDL 380 and my HDL was down to about 29. My blood as far creatine levels are normal range what i dont have enough of in the body is a particular protien i dont know the name starts with an "A". this particular protien helps prevent you from retaining water. Because i dont have enough of this protien and its coming out of my urine all the time, i am retaining too much water and inturn the water is going into my soft tissue like an edema patient would have. The doctor told me that my kidneys according to the blood work are functioning fine and there is no immediate danger but i am scheduled to see a nephrologist (kidney doctor) on Monday, hopefully he can give me something to help my kidneys get rid of this water. The doctor also mentioned that as the AAS is leaving my body my i should come back to equilibrium.
It was actually funny cause the nurses i spoke with asked why i was retaining water and when i told the two ladies who were very hott might i add they were all intregued and asked if they could feel my arm haha. Then when they took my blood pressure they were like i have never put a BP cuff on an arm so big hahaha it was so funny i was eating it all up. The doctor on the other hand didnt even know normal people can get steriods, she thought only professional atheletes can obtain it. Anyway i will fill you in on what happens with the nephrologist as soon as i get an answer.
bigrand said:
According to my blood test my liver is fine. What is happening is that i am urinating all of the protien or albumin i am acctually difficient in that according to my blood test, because the kidneys are not retaining it. I will update you guys as soon as i get a nephrologist to check me out which should be next week or something like that.
bigrand said:
Okay i got an update for anyone who was interested on what the nephrologist said. Basically i was diagnosed with Nephrotic syndrome. The syndrome means that it is a bunch of bad things that come together to cause one problem. Symptoms for what i have are foamy urine (because of the protien), Edema especially in the abdomen and lower legs, and headaches. My kidney function is fine besides the protienuria that i am experiencing. The doctor says i should respond to the treatment just fine. The cause of this was exposure to drugs or AAS. He also said that my glomerli should heal up just fine with the treatment he gave. The medicine he gave me is basically a cortisteroid which will help out the Edema that i am experiencing quite abit. Also he prescribed me some cholestorol pills, and he prescribed me an ACE inhibitor which will help my glomeri, and help bring my BP down as well. With all of this i am taking i hope to be back to normal by the next two weeks. Anyway just thought i would update on this i will keep this updated as to how my recovery goes. If you got questions ask.
cronicguitar
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hi, can you give me an update? has your kidneys healed? i have this same condition. please reply.
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