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Protein intake

Rommel

Rommel

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Protein intakes greater than three times the recommended level do not enhance work capacity during intensive training. For athletes, muscle mass does not increase simply by eating high-protein foods. If lean tissue synthesis resulted from all of the extra protein intake consumed by the typical athlete, then mass would increase tremendously. For example, eating and extra 100g of protein daily would translate into a daily 500-g (1.1 lb) increase in muscle mass. This obviously does not happen. Additional dietary protein, after deamination, provides for energy or recycles as components of other molecules including stored fat in subcutaneous depots. Dietary protein intake significantly above recommended values can prove harmful because excessive protein breakdown strains liver and kidney function through the production and elimination of urea and other solutes.

McArdle, William. Katch, Frank. Katch, Victor.
Essentails of exercise physiology, second ed.
 
Rommel said:
Protein intakes greater than three times the recommended level do not enhance work capacity during intensive training. For athletes, muscle mass does not increase simply by eating high-protein foods. If lean tissue synthesis resulted from all of the extra protein intake consumed by the typical athlete, then mass would increase tremendously. For example, eating and extra 100g of protein daily would translate into a daily 500-g (1.1 lb) increase in muscle mass. This obviously does not happen. Additional dietary protein, after deamination, provides for energy or recycles as components of other molecules including stored fat in subcutaneous depots. Dietary protein intake significantly above recommended values can prove harmful because excessive protein breakdown strains liver and kidney function through the production and elimination of urea and other solutes.

McArdle, William. Katch, Frank. Katch, Victor.
Essentails of exercise physiology, second ed.
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ask McArdle, William. Katch, Frank. Katch, Victor.
Essentails of exercise physiology, second ed. if they look like me! then tell them that what looks good in a book dosen't always pan out in real life.:mad:
 
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THE BOUNCER said:
ask McArdle, William. Katch, Frank. Katch, Victor.
Essentails of exercise physiology, second ed. if they look like me! then tell them that what looks good in a book dosen't always pan out in real life.:mad:
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I just asked them, and they said they look BETTER than you! Just kiddin bro, but they're right...you don't grow from just eating more protein, there are actually some schmoes that think you can...
 
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Bulldog_10 said:


I just asked them, and they said they look BETTER than you! Just kiddin bro, but they're right...you don't grow from just eating more protein, there are actually some schmoes that think you can...
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sleep/protein
 
Bulldog_10 said:


What exactly don't you guys agree with? They are exactly on point with this little excerpt...
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i feel 2g/protein for YOUR TARGETED WEIGHT is the way to go, the way i see it, if you eat too much protein your body will turn it into glucose and use it as such, if you dont eat enouph it sure as hell wont turn carbs into amino acids, so why take any chances?
 
serge said:


i feel 2g/protein for YOUR TARGETED WEIGHT is the way to go, the way i see it, if you eat too much protein your body will turn it into glucose and use it as such, if you dont eat enouph it sure as hell wont turn carbs into amino acids, so why take any chances?
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But that has nothing to do with the excerpt. It's just saying that you need to workout to grow...you can't just up your protein intake...I'm sure there have been those little shmucks that read the diets of the pros and say "shit, If I eat more protein I'll grow like a fucking weed!" And they lack in the weightroom...
 
Bulldog_10 said:


What exactly don't you guys agree with? They are exactly on point with this little excerpt...
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hahahahaha. yeah, what are you one of those fags that want us to take in .7 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight. pansy!!!
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:


hahahahaha. yeah, what are you one of those fags that want us to take in .7 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight. pansy!!!
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Oh man...he's back...check out the thread about the new "gay bodybuilding board" I think you'll fit in nicely over there!:rainbow:
 
Bulldog_10 said:


But that has nothing to do with the excerpt. It's just saying that you need to workout to grow...you can't just up your protein intake...I'm sure there have been those little shmucks that read the diets of the pros and say "shit, If I eat more protein I'll grow like a fucking weed!" And they lack in the weightroom...
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thats obvious, at least to us, then again there are plenty on this board that have the mentality; "pill of this, shot of shat; and i will look like ronnie coleman in no time"
 
Bulldog_10 said:


What exactly don't you guys agree with? They are exactly on point with this little excerpt...
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Most scientists/studies believe that 1g per pound is a high amount, some say its acceptable, some still insist that there is no proof that any more than 50g total is needed.

In other words, what is proven to work in real life has nothing to do with the lab coat guys believe, which is yet another reason I am wary to believe in what some lab coat scientist tells the world. Half the time it is disproven later, like the 4 minute mile being scientifically impossible, obviously disproven, yada yada.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


What exactly don't you guys agree with? They are exactly on point with this little excerpt...
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i can't even read so im just going along with everyone else. wait a minute, if i can't read, how am i typing this? ah never mind.
 
serge said:


thats obvious, at least to us, then again there are plenty on this board that have the mentality; "pill of this, shot of shat; and i will look like ronnie coleman in no time"
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While that's true, that's not what the article is saying...you're missing the point...There's a lecture in every class, and an article in every text about the fact that eating more protein alone does not make you grow.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


Oh man...he's back...check out the thread about the new "gay bodybuilding board" I think you'll fit in nicely over there!:rainbow:
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ha! sounds like fun making fun of gays over there, but there are enough of them over here to keep me busy! highlight of my night is when i get home and log on and see your name replying to threads and i know i can fuck with you! its great! :devil: now go eat some goddamn protein to make up for your .7 per kilo strategy that isn't working.
 
There is a guy on another board, who eats childrens breakfast cereal, subway sandwhiches for lunch, etc, basically a kids diet. He says that he can't grow and has been shrinking for the past 2 years, wonder why?

He was told to get his diet down. Comes back later about 6 weeks, asks the same question, what roids should I do, I can't grow, I need some kind of jump start, yada yada, insists that diet isn't helping him.

Wonder why? He didn't change a fucking thing.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:


ha! sounds like fun making fun of gays over there, but there are enough of them over here to keep me busy! highlight of my night is when i get home and log on and see your name replying to threads and i know i can fuck with you! its great! :devil: now go eat some goddamn protein to make up for your .7 per kilo strategy that isn't working.
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Ugh...Do I have to spell this shit out for you? Who's going to grow more? Someone who eats 1.5g/lb bodyweight...or someone who eats 2g/lb bodyweight?

yep, you guessed it, whoever works harder in the gym!
 
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THE BOUNCER said:
ask McArdle, William. Katch, Frank. Katch, Victor.
Essentails of exercise physiology, second ed. if they look like me! then tell them that what looks good in a book dosen't always pan out in real life.:mad:
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Yeah Bouncer, but what about your special protein??
 
Bulldog_10 said:


Ugh...Do I have to spell this shit out for you? Who's going to grow more? Someone who eats 1.5g/lb bodyweight...or someone who eats 2g/lb bodyweight?

yep, you guessed it, whoever works harder in the gym!
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the excerpt said "intensive training".....so they are saying higher than average protein intake is useless even for an intensely trained trainer. you still agree with them bitches?
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:


the excerpt said "intensive training".....so they are saying higher than average protein intake is useless even for an intensely trained trainer. you still agree with them bitches?
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So now you think protein makes you stronger?
 
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creep said:


Yeah Bouncer, but what about your special protein??
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Plus all that vitamin E he gets when he and warbird get together...that's his secret...It's a secret of the pros...Sorry bouncer, but the people have a right to know!
 
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Bulldog_10 said:


Plus all that vitamin E he gets when he and warbird get together...that's his secret...It's a secret of the pros...Sorry bouncer, but the people have a right to know!
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He must be hogging all the Vite E then, cuz he is like a hundred pounds bigger than me. bitch ass.
 
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WARBIRDWS6 said:


He must be hogging all the Vite E then, cuz he is like a hundred pounds bigger than me. bitch ass.
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You know where all that vitamin E is coming from right? He should share with you, that's selfish of him.
 
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Bulldog_10 said:


You know where all that vitamin E is coming from right? He should share with you, that's selfish of him.
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yes i know, but feel free to give us an explicit sex ed course if you like.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


From warbird's semen of course...
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had to say it didn't you.
damn creep, first you piss off the ebay guy......now you get us a disgusting visual. your on a roll this week. :)
 
That is completely dependant on the individuals body, there is no study that proves that no human can use more than 30g protein per sitting, I myself take in a minimum of 60 over 5 meals a day, on 30 I would not be able to grow, 1g per pound bodyweight and I stagnate, and thats even less than that.

It depends on the subject, there are those who take in 500g per day, and its not because they like wasting the stuff.
 
Milk?

How good is the protein I get from my skim milk? In the offseason, I regularly drink a gallon of milk a day plus a gallon of water....should I count all those grams on the back of the milk jug? or am i wasting my time??
 
Bulldog_10 said:


Ugh...Do I have to spell this shit out for you? Who's going to grow more? Someone who eats 1.5g/lb bodyweight...or someone who eats 2g/lb bodyweight?

yep, you guessed it, whoever works harder in the gym!
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All other things being equal...the guy who eats 2g/lb is more likely to grow more
 
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