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leonidas33
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is it ok to use this with cellmass (creatine)? or would it be counter productive?
I replied to this is a PM but for everyone else -- DEFINITION will remove water under the skin so you will still retain the fullness from creatine, you'll just be less bloated.
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leonidas33
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Nelson Montana said:
thanks Nelson... I guess it is a great time for protein factory!
Hybridtheory2o
New member
Hmm I kinda wanna try this stuff but im bulking..maybe it will help me pull off the lean bulk look then i can go for the ultra shredded summer look when the time comes.
Hybridtheory2o said:
DEFINITION and ZIP are great to stay as lean as possible while bulking.
xrsist said:
ZIP hypes the thyroid. More thyroid activity, more fat burned without stims or appitite supression. Non supressive.
muffinmaker
Banned
How come you wont respond to me, after calling me out?????leonidas33 said:
muffinmaker said:
Huh?
SuperOne said:
Typo. On the bottle it says the correct dosage -- 75 mgs. Thanks for the heads up. I'll let them know.
No problem. Let us know how it works out for you. BTW, I recommend a double dose with lots of water. (They have to be conservative on the label but for most gear using purposes, a double does the trick).
SuperOne said:
You can go up to 5 caps twice a day for a few days. Expect to pee a lot. After that use it accordingly.
blondambition
New member
I'm excited! I ordered a few things from PF this week, one of them being Definition. I also order Zip, MyogenX and some protein powder. I'm not a gear user so what would be recommended on the dosages?
blondambition said:
Well, DEFINITION is strictly for water bloat. ZIP works subtley but you'll get a nice gradual loss of fat that won't come back the way it does with stims. (Because it doesn't affect the CNS). MyogenX helps get LH up after a cycle. If you're not using gear and want a hormonal boost I'd recommend UNLEASHED.
blondambition
New member
I looked at UNLEASHED as well but thought that me being female, the MyogenX would be a better choice? I am not really sure. I emailed and spoke with a woman who said that any of the test products wouldn't cause unwanted side effects. I am certainly open to some advice Nelson Montana.
blondambition said:
Since UNLEASHED lowers SH BG it makes sense that it will raise a womens free T as well. And becuase it's your own T, and not elevating it via a exogenous source, there's no supression. Many woman also report a big boost in libido from UNLEASHED. Try it with the MyogenX and see how it goes. Then there are other options for tweeking hormones and such for faster , safe gains.
JimBoy said:
No need for zinc and E if you take a multi.
Definetely add "POST-CYCLE" and UNLEASHED. Maybe HC G depending on what you're doing. Don't like clomid.
blondambition
New member
I definately want to get the UNLEASHED now. So should I use the MyogenX and Unleashed together? Or would just the unleashed be best.
blondambition said:
Try the UNLEASHED first. If you find that helping, add the MyogenX and see if it improves the results. Let us know.
Hey Nelson, sorry got another couple questions.
How long before going to bed should i take my last dose of ZIP for the night?
Also, if someone is sub hypothyroid, or has high levels of androgens or adrenal issues inhibiting thyroid production, will ZIP keep the thyroid working fast under these coditions and bring them back to normal in somebody with impaired function?
How long before going to bed should i take my last dose of ZIP for the night?
Also, if someone is sub hypothyroid, or has high levels of androgens or adrenal issues inhibiting thyroid production, will ZIP keep the thyroid working fast under these coditions and bring them back to normal in somebody with impaired function?
SuperOne said:
ZIP has helped people who were borderline hypothyroid but obviously I can not diagnose you or claim that ZIP is a replacement for medical attention. It certainly can help though.
blondambition
New member
I am going through testing now. Blood work came back with indications of hyperthyroid. I would guess that means that I cannot take Zip and I just got it. Haven't even opened the bottle 
Nelson, I know you are not a doc but is my common sense right here since you know the products?
Nelson, I know you are not a doc but is my common sense right here since you know the products?
ZIP won't cause insomnia but it's best not to take it after 6pm.
Even if you're hyperthyroid, ZIP won't hurt you. The thyroid still needs and can benefit those nutrients. But yeah, hypers tend to be lean so the ZIP may not show as much of an effect in regard to fat loss.
Even if you're hyperthyroid, ZIP won't hurt you. The thyroid still needs and can benefit those nutrients. But yeah, hypers tend to be lean so the ZIP may not show as much of an effect in regard to fat loss.
