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Protein drink as meat replacement??

jokerswild

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I have trouble finding the time (and money) to eat enough meat products to reach daily protein and calorie goals. I know people supplement with whey drinks but has anyone ever cut meat out completly and went on protein shakes only? I mean if I can get 300 cals and 50g of protein in 20 sec for about $1 its worth a try.........
 
yeah but you have to keep in mind that whey protein is in your blood for a very short amount of time
meat burns slowly, so your nitrogen balance is consistently positive
rather than spiking it
 
hell no, never replace a protein shake for a meal, unless it is a nasty 1500 cal, 50g protein post workout shake...three words tuna, tuna, tuna is the key to success...
 
tuna is fast too
open the can, and let er rip...in the states its like 50 cents a can, in canada its a buck...any canadians know where i can get cheap but high quality protein btw :D?
 
Protien drinks were not designed to be meal replacements. If you were to substitute protien drinks for meals, you would starve to death. Once and a while you'd be OK to do so but on a regular basis, you might as well not be eating at all (well, that's overstated but you get my point).

A better choice for a 60 mile an hour meal is an actual MRP. Even these would barely qualify. They will go further than a regular protien drink as they do have some carbs and other goodies that will mimick an actual meal.

Use the protien shakes as they were meant. Post workout and to get your protien intake up. Use MRPs as they were meant to be used too.

Then you'll have few problems or worries.

Yeah, better choice would be the tuna. Real food over shakes ALWAYS!!!!
 
Griz1 said:
Protien drinks were not designed to be meal replacements. If you were to substitute protien drinks for meals, you would starve to death. Once and a while you'd be OK to do so but on a regular basis, you might as well not be eating at all (well, that's overstated but you get my point).

A better choice for a 60 mile an hour meal is an actual MRP. Even these would barely qualify. They will go further than a regular protien drink as they do have some carbs and other goodies that will mimick an actual meal.

Use the protien shakes as they were meant. Post workout and to get your protien intake up. Use MRPs as they were meant to be used too.

Then you'll have few problems or worries.

Yeah, better choice would be the tuna. Real food over shakes ALWAYS!!!!

I'm not taking about a meal replacement just for replacing the meat in my diet, I would continue eating oatmeal, rice etc.....
 
It would be more optimal for you to have a protein shake postworkout, possibly as another snack at some point during the day. However you need to consume a portion of your protein intake thru food. Whey is absorbed into the system much too quickly to be a staple of your diet in filling in for meat altogether. Tuna is super cheap at usually like 50 cents a can, personally i also enjoy Pollock or Whiting fish, each are pretty cheap, although not quite as cheap as tuna usually. There are sales sometimes where you can get whiting for about a buck a pound. I can usually eat at least half a pound at a time, depending on what veggies i eat with it, sometimes closer to a pound. I substitute that in for a little variety.
 
If you're worried about the rate at which the protein is synthesized. Try the Whey Protein with skim or soy milk that will slow the absorption rate down. You can also use a slightly more expensive protein called Casein it has a much slower rate of digestion than Whey. But Yes it is okay to Supplement for some of your Protein intake that's why there is "Protein Supplements". The way I eat it's almost like I am using a protein shake as a meal replacment but I eat 5 to 6 meals throughout the day and take in a bout 4-6 shakes a day.

meal 1 - whey with water. and food. like egg whites with weat..

meal 2 - casein with soy milk or protein bar

meal 3 - a tuna wrap or chicken salad

meal 4 - casein with soy milk or protein bar,or an apple and almounds

meal 5 - meat and veggie brown rice.

meal 6 - casein with soy milk

also whey before and after my workout...

so, the point I'm trying to make is that protein supplements are key. you do need them. Also my diet is not of a bulking bodybuilder or powerlifter either. You should adjust as needed. And at all cost I would never supplement real food for a shake, it just so happens that this schedule is the most conveinent for me. and works very well... All of my calories are accounted for this way.
 
jokerswild said:
I have trouble finding the time (and money) to eat enough meat products to reach daily protein and calorie goals. I know people supplement with whey drinks but has anyone ever cut meat out completly and went on protein shakes only? I mean if I can get 300 cals and 50g of protein in 20 sec for about $1 its worth a try.........

beef top round is cheap 3.5 - 4/lb and is 96% lean. I would not advise replacing real food with a shake.
 
jokerswild said:
I'm not taking about a meal replacement just for replacing the meat in my diet, I would continue eating oatmeal, rice etc.....
well if you are trying to gain you should eat the protein, carb, and a protein shake on top of it...
 
Heres what todays menu was:

5am- 3 packages oatmeal, 10 oz. 1% milk with 2 scoop nitro tech (50g pro)
8:30am- 1 homemade breakfeast burrito, 2 boiled eggs, 4oz ribeye
11:00am-2 tuna fish sandwiches on white
3pm workout
4pm-10z 1% milk with 2 scoops nitro tech
5pm- Hamburger helper with slice white bread, 10oz milk
before bed-P.B. sandwich and another protein drink.

Keep in mind I drink water all day long and plenty of it, also taking Mega vitamins, 25mg dbol daily and Sust at 500mg per wk........
 
jokerswild said:
Heres what todays menu was:

5am- 3 packages oatmeal, 10 oz. 1% milk with 2 scoop nitro tech (50g pro)
8:30am- 1 homemade breakfeast burrito, 2 boiled eggs, 4oz ribeye
11:00am-2 tuna fish sandwiches on white
3pm workout
4pm-10z 1% milk with 2 scoops nitro tech
5pm- Hamburger helper with slice white bread, 10oz milk
before bed-P.B. sandwich and another protein drink.

Keep in mind I drink water all day long and plenty of it, also taking Mega vitamins, 25mg dbol daily and Sust at 500mg per wk........

Other people may have other suggestions. These are mine.

1. Get protein 30 minutes after workout not 1hour. Basically swallow protein immediately after workout.
2. I'd use beef top round in replacement of the hamburger helper.
3. The only efa's u get is in the peanut butter sandwich. Why not nuts (cashew , almond , pecan , macademia, walnut ) in there somewhere or flax.
4. Oats or green veggies before bed for slow digesting carbs.
5. Why not whole wheat instead of white bread?
6. All protein shakes are whey. No casein , egg , soy (if you're not totally against soy) or other vegetable proteins
 
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