Pros use 3 grams injectables/week, 200 mg orals/day?

[big_boy_1]

Plus a lot of GH, insulin, diuretics...

Do these pro cycles sound about right?

I. 16-8 weeks out
500mg sustanon ED
300mg deca EOD
300mg eq EOD
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout
100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout
200mg TNE 90 mins pre workout
2. 8-4 weeks out
200mg test propionate ED
100mg TNE 3x per day
100mg tren acetate ED
600mg tren enanthate EW
200mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
3. 4-1 Weeks Out
150mg TNE 3x per day
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
50mg halotestin ED
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
4. 1-0 weeks out
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
60mg halotestin ED
100mg dbol ED
100mg anadrol ED
10iu hulamog with each meal
*diuretics not included.

"Steroid Guru" apparent cycle of one of his 2012 Mr.O Clients - SuperiorMuscle.com - Bodybuilding Forums

 

[big_boy_1]

1-10  Testosterone Enanthate, 750mg a week (1000-1200mg
advanced)
1-10  EQ, 800mg a week (1000mg advanced)
1-10  Tren E, 600mg/week (800mg advanced)
1-8 D-Bol, 50mg every day (up to 100mg advanced)
10-16  100mg Testosterone prop EOD (100mg ED advanced)
10-16  100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD (75-100mg ED advanced)
10-16  100mg Masteron propionate EOD (100mg ED advanced)
10-16  50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED (sometime I do both)
8-16  Start T3 at 25mcg ED and taper up as needed.
12-16  Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every
week (not a good choice for those who aren't mentally strong.)

https://www.t-nation.com/steroids/steroids-what-pro-bodybuilders-are-really-using


400 MG A WEEK
MASTERON ,,800 MG A WEEK EQUIPOISE ,,400 NG A WEEK
TRENBOLONE ACE,,THIS IS TOTAL OF 1600MG NOW THATS WHAT
GH15 MEANS BY THE FACT THAT THEN....THE BODYBUILDER SHOULD
GET IN HIS SYSTEM 2.5 GRAM TESTOSTERONE A WEEK INORDER TO
HAVE SEX DRIVE AND FULLNESS AND THE RIGHT BALANCE GOING SO
HE CAN GROW RIGHT AND CAN STILL FUCK HIS WOMAN RIGHT! SOME
PEOPLE SEEM TO NOT GET IT YET,,
YES WE DO 3-4 GRAMS GEAR,,ITS ALL A RATIO MY FRIENDS,,WE DO A
LOT MORE THAN 3-4 GRRAMS IN SOME CASES,

gh15 bible: Doses for pro bodybuilders:

 

[big_boy_1]

At first I said OMG!

But then I remembered it ain't uncommon to see aficionados using 1g+ or even 2g nonstop cycles!
And there were credible rumors of pros using 3 to 5 grams per week.

If you find a link of purported pro cycles please post them.
Karma

 

[polarbear1134]

Why would pros getting tested take something with over 6 month detection time 8-16 weeks out?

 

[bigorse]

I know a top amatuer who does 5g cycles 3 month's on 3 months off and uses gh and slin...

 

[big_boy_1]

I know a top amatuer who does 5g cycles 3 month's on 3 months off and uses gh and slin...

Does he ever gets completely off?
I guess still uses a gram+ of test during his 'off' periods.

 

[big_boy_1]

Some interesting points.

1. So it looks like almost all pros DO use Halotestin.

2. They follow a 'use as many different steroids as possible' approach.
This makes sense as a very low dose, something like 10mg or 25mg, would saturate ALL androgen receptors in the body. AAS continue to be effective as doses get beyond 1 gram so AAS also act elsewhere in the body.

3. They purportedly use T prop when they are also using sus or other T esters? this doesn't make sense.

4. As polarbear said Why use deca/eq near the show?
Some guys say testing is random, so they take their chances.
Health at such megadoses and getting money for them are already a bigger gamble.

5. At such doses it's no wonder why AASs got banned.
Low and morerate doses like those discussed on EF do almost no harm and may even be healthy for skinny people.

6. No wonder why ordinary people despises BB contests.
Pros need psychological help they are insane.
Although most pros already use psychiatric drugs to handle the BB drugs mental side effects.

 

[zmyj88]

1. Because its outstanding
2. I do like this approach
3. Preworkout, it'll give you that boost.
4. Deca/eq IMO, horrible things
5. They always ban the fun stuff
6. We were all insane waaay before the juice

 

[Steeldude99]

If you look at the mass and quality of Dorian Yates and then the Olympia winners before him you can see that there is a difference. Yates used insulin, the Olympia winners before him did not. To get that pro beast look you may have to use slin. Be careful though if you get insulin wrong you will die (No joke).

 

[banana monkey]

no one ever said these guys are smart or is it just me... not enough money in the world to take chances like that....

 

[polarbear1134]

You also have to consider the reason you are doing what you are doing. Arnold was the 1st of the big champs and the last of the ones that most females think look good.
So if you are straight and want girls...do you really want a look that turns them off? In fact most women even think Arnold back in the day had gone too far.
Keep that in mind as many many people do this to look good. Same goes for those 70lb 5ft7 anorexic people...they look in the mirror and think it looks great and everyone else who sees them just wants to take them to the hospital for help.
When you get to the 0.1% most extreme in any direction, skinny fat tall short muscular ect...your audience that think you look good is going to be very very tiny.

 

[bigorse]

Does he ever gets completely off?
I guess still uses a gram+ of test during his 'off' periods.

Honestly not sure what he classes "off"

 

[bigorse]

If you look at the mass and quality of Dorian Yates and then the Olympia winners before him you can see that there is a difference. Yates used insulin, the Olympia winners before him did not. To get that pro beast look you may have to use slin. Be careful though if you get insulin wrong you will die (No joke).

Slin honestly isnt dangerous at all if you put the research in and do it properly. Safer than gh and aas in the long run too.

 

[polarbear1134]

Slin honestly isnt dangerous at all if you put the research in and do it properly. Safer than gh and aas in the long run too.

Actually insulin is extremely hard on your kidneys and why so many diabetics have to go on a low protein diet after extreme kidney damage from long term use/abuse on insulin. When you stack in bb major use of protein and add in insulin you have a recipe perfect for damaging or destroying someone's kidneys.

 

[zmyj88]

My kidney is fine, and I only have one, so it better well be, and that's with 10+iu 2-3x a day month on, month off

 

[bigorse]

Actually insulin is extremely hard on your kidneys and why so many diabetics have to go on a low protein diet after extreme kidney damage from long term use/abuse on insulin. When you stack in bb major use of protein and add in insulin you have a recipe perfect for damaging or destroying someone's kidneys.

Diabetics never come off insulin amd have insulin in their system all day long, We do not. Totally different

 

[big_boy_1]

What made pros' guts bloat as compared to the 70s or 80s?
Insulin or test?

 

[polarbear1134]

hgh its not called gh gut for nothing

 

[big_boy_1]

Evolutionary has some pro cycles
Some are BS, some may be true.
Looks like almost all pros still use deca and dianabol.

Schwarzenegger pyramiding up to 800 mg primobolan, 400 mg deca, and 100 mg dianabol.
Arnold Schwarzenegger Cycle - elitefitness.com/forum

Franco Colombu
1 g deca, 100 mg dbol, 50 mg anadrol.
Franco Columbu Steroids Cycle - elitefitness.com/forum

Dorian Yates
1.5g sust, 1 g deca, 100 mg dbol
Dorian Yates Steroids Cycle - elitefitness.com/forum

Jay Cutler
1.5 g sust, 200 mg deca, 100 mg dbol, 100 mg anadrol
Jay Cutler Steroid Cycle - elitefitness.com/forum

Lee Haney LOL
400 mg deca/wk, 20 mg dbol everyday.
I bet he's only disclosing his first cycle ever, probably when in high school.
He admitted he is a christian now and doesn't want to become a bad role model.

 

[big_boy_1]

Ronnie Coleman

I always said if reincarnation exists and I have to become black (no racism intended) then I want to become RC.

Sit down and breathe slowly
Sust 500 mg per DAY! = 3.5g per week if no weekends off
deca 200 mg/ day (1.4g/wk), eq 300 mg/day (2.1g/wk)
anadrol 100 mg/day, dianabol 100 mg/day
That's 7 grams a week of injectables!

Let's do some math about oil volume
500 mg sust @ 250 mg/ml = 2 ml per day
200 mg deca @ 200 mg/ml = 1 ml
300 mg eq @ 200 mg/ml = 1.5 ml
That is 4.5 ml per day = 31.5 ml per week!

How to inject that much?
2 glutes 4 ml each twice a week = 16 ml
2 delts 2 ml each 2x/w = 8ml
2 quads 2 ml each 2x/w = 8 ml
Total 32 ml, close to the needed 31.5.