Prohormones: The Real Deal

[RealDeal]

I intended to do this all along...unfortunately I was stupid at the beginning and did not document my weight the day I started. I've been weighing myself every few days and it's been going up consistently, but as I wasn't doing this cycle to proove any point, I didn't write it all down. Now, when I eventually decide to do a "real" cycle (i.e. gear) then I'll certainly document weight and measurement changes.

I did, however, take a couple of photos about a week into this cycle although they turned out poorly. I'll still scan them and will take a few post bulking shots w/my new digi cam. Will also be doing a cutting cycle afterwards.

This will be my personal real world experience with PH. Again, I am not attributing ALL of my gains to PH alone, but they are most certainly making a difference. Honestly, I did indeed change my eating habits, but did so 6 weeks before starting this cycle. And I'm not eating as much as I know I would need to be to make these gains w/out the PH. Also, I realize a portion of the gains I've had so far are from some water retention...unfortunately there's no way to know exactly how much. My b/f has remained at 11% since the start. Will post PH cycle results in 6 weeks if I complete it (only reason I would stop is if I start to notice any signs of gyno).

 

[NYC BOY]

do a research dude, do not believe to the marketing people !

 

[GTTRTGB]

they work

it just matters how you take them...i took andro proppers, tribulus, and dhea all at once with 2.5 grams of protien per pound of body weight and i gained 10lbs!!! 1 in on my arms!!! i only took them for 3 weeks then 3 weeks off and they work wonders for me...next i am gona try the decapara and take that with muscletech celltech(to grams of creatine per scoop)


hope i get the same results from that stuff...

 

[riskybiz007]

Real Deal just wondering what were you taking and at what quantities.

 

[RealDeal]

Real Deal just wondering what were you taking and at what quantities.

I'm currently on the following cycle of Andro Infusion (4-AD, 5-AD) & Norabol (19-nor):

(1 cap AI = 100mg 4-AD & 50mg 5-AD)
(1 cap Nor = 100mg 19-nor)

Week# / #cap Nor / #cap AI
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1 / 4 / 4
2 / 6 / 4
3 / 12 / 6
4 / 12 / 6
5 / 12 / 6 (current week)
6 / 10 / 4
7 / 4 / 4
8 / 4 / 2
9 / 3 / 2

Will start on chrysin (I know it may not do much if anything, but I have it so might as well use it) & tribulus on week #7 and continue through week #12.

do a research dude, do not believe to the marketing people !

I don't believe in marketing people...most of them I know are full-of-shit a-holes, but I DO believe in visible results. If I see them, then I become a believer. That's the way it is with anything.

 

[riskybiz007]

good doseages i think. How much weight have you put on? And at what times do you take the pills?

 

[RealDeal]

Yes, you have to use high dosages to get anything from them...that I certainly believe. I think this is also why many people do NOT get results -- the dosage directions on the bottles are way too low, but I'm sure that's for FDA and legal reasons.

I take my first dose upon waking on an empty stomach, then wait 45 mins to an hour before eating breakfast. The second dose I take approx 1 hour before training, or on off days I take it on an empty stomach in the evening (sometimes before "dinner" or before my nightly protein shake).

Two months ago I weighed 175 lbs and about 6 1/2 weeks ago I weighed 178 lbs. Yesterday I weighed in at 194 lbs. That's 16 lbs in 6 1/2 weeks. Again, I realize some of this is water weight, but how much I do not know for sure. I can visually tell I've bulked up, but after completion of my cutting cycle and dropping by b/f to under 10% I'd expect to loose 5-10 lbs...thus the reason I'm trying to gain as much as possible before cutting. I'd love to end up weighing in @ 200 lbs, but that's pretty damn optimistic to say the least. Maybe after cycle #2? That will either be a 1-AD & transdermal cycle, or waiting several months longer and trying a good gear cycle...I have to do a lot more research before making that decision.

 

[riskybiz007]

bro i just want the doses to be clarified once again which andros you're taking at what time? Or are you taking them all together? Looks like this is giving you decent results.

 

[RealDeal]

bro i just want the doses to be clarified once again which andros you're taking at what time? Or are you taking them all together? Looks like this is giving you decent results.

Times are stated above. mg's per cap stated above. The dosages (or # of caps) taken are listed above as well, but split those into 2 doses per day and I take them together. So for example, right now I'm taking 6 caps of Norabol and 3 caps of Andro Infusion (all taken at same time) 2x/day.

FYI - the 19-nor is a DIONE, though I'd prefer it be a DIOL. In the future, any PH I take will be DIOLs.

 

[riskybiz007]

what's kinda messed up is that we wont know which of the two supplements contributed most to your gains. Whether it was the Nor or the Andro. I've used the Nordiols at 600mg/day and i got small results. The Andro i've used also at about 500-600mg/day and i didn't notice anything at all w/ that. Maybe it's the Nor, from what i hear from people's reports they always get better results from the Nors.