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littlebiggie

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Hello. Looking for profess advice, and or adjustments. Thank you in advance.

5 months in.

I'm doing:

1ml deca 2x's a week
600 mg test cream (three pumps) per day

Lifting heavy 5 days a week, one body part per day. Intense.

I'm 5'10"

In January I was:
chest: 43 1/2
arm: 16.25 flexed
Waist: 35 1/2;
thigh: 22.5;
weight: 187

Now, June I am
chest: 44.5
arm: flexed 17.0
Waist: 35.5
thigh: 24.5
weight: 197

I look pretty thick for my size, and can tell there is some progress. A little fat coming in. Wondering if this sounds normal, if I should see more by now or have more patience...

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wait have you been on deca for five months?

and have you only gained 10lbs in those five months?

if so:
1 stop the cycle and start pct NOW
2 your diet / training needs MAJOR work
 
Asked if should have more patience LOL dude 5 months is too long, especially if not on hrt. deca shuts u down hard. Should have gained more weight off deca
guess better than guy who was on deca for 2-3 years.. he's on daily cialis and never gonna function again though.

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Looks like I trusted some bad advice from the Dr. who prescribed. I suspected, and that's why I asked here. Thank you.

That said, can you pls run me through pct; for example do you keep applying the test cream during pct or stop that as well?
 
Looks like I trusted some bad advice from the Dr. who prescribed. I suspected, and that's why I asked here. Thank you.

That said, can you pls run me through pct; for example do you keep applying the test cream during pct or stop that as well?

fuck bro, you don't even have pct lined up?? fuck... no you would not keep using test in pct... you need to run a low dose of clomid... 25/12.5/12.5/12.5... also get the unleashed/post cycle combo and also forma stanzol...

you need to get checked out after your pct is complete... get all your bloodwork done... check your test, prolactin, cholesterol, ,etc...
 
Are you on hormone replacement therapy or something? Ya you should stop and start an extensive pct

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Are you on hormone replacement therapy or something? Ya you should stop and start an extensive pct

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that's what i was wondering too... this whole scenario is just all fucked up and im worried that the OP is going to be all fucked up as well...
 
Yes, on a hormone replacement therapy. The program prescribed by my Dr. was set to have a pct period in a month from now.

But as I continued my own research I suspected that I should start that sooner. Furthermore, I'm wondering if the pct program prescribed is trustworthy, if you're saying I shouldn't be on the deca for this long.

Can you please explain what 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 means?

I apologize for being misinformed, however I was trusting the Dr.'s program.

I should also clarify that I made much more progress before the deca program. When I was simply on the test cream, last year, with the same lifting schedule and nutrition as I'm currently using, I gained 36 lbs of almost pure muscle and fairly large gains in muscle dimension.

Because I have seen so little progress on the deca, I began to question why I'm using it. That brought me here.

Thank you again for the advice.
 
Yes, on a hormone replacement therapy. The program prescribed by my Dr. was set to have a pct period in a month from now.

But as I continued my own research I suspected that I should start that sooner. Furthermore, I'm wondering if the pct program prescribed is trustworthy, if you're saying I shouldn't be on the deca for this long.

Can you please explain what 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 means?

I apologize for being misinformed, however I was trusting the Dr.'s program.

I should also clarify that I made much more progress before the deca program. When I was simply on the test cream, last year, with the same lifting schedule and nutrition as I'm currently using, I gained 36 lbs of almost pure muscle and fairly large gains in muscle dimension.

Because I have seen so little progress on the deca, I began to question why I'm using it. That brought me here.

Thank you again for the advice.

i think your doctor is fucking moron... anyway... the dosing is in miligrams... thats how much to do a day each week... so week 1 dose it at 25 mg and each week after 12.5... you can get your clomid at chemicalneed.com...
 
How the hell have you been on deca and test for 5 months and only gain 10 pounds????

I gained 25lbs from running deca and test... And that was only in 8 weeks.

Your doctor is a ruhtard.

As stated by previous posters deca shuts you down super hard.... I was shut down so hard after just 7 weeks of deca... I can't imagine 5 months of that shit... You're gonna need an extensive and longer than normal pct. I'd run a pct for 6 weeks of clomid at 50mg everyday combine with some hcg, formastanzol, and unleashed/post cycle.

I hope you can recover from this man. Deca for 5 months is scary. 7 weeks was enough for me to hate it and had to cut the cycle short. Never will touch that shit again.
 
ok it sucks but people have done worse.

I would stop the deca ASAP no matter what.

then some questions.

Do you plan on being on HRT for life? Nothing wrong w/ that but that determines your next step.

If you did this just to cycle then I would stop the deca but not the test. Id run the test at least 4 more weeks maybe 6. This is just to let all of the deca clear your system. Id start hcg or hcgenerate asap. Id start formastanzol asap.
After that I would stop the test run low dose clomid for 6 weeks with post cycle and unleashed.

If you plan on staying on hrt for life then stop the deca and find a new doc.

actually no matter what.. find a new doc
 
get on caber asap.

then sue him for malpractice.

what kind of doctor puts someone on deca for 5 months anyway with nothing to control progesterone? did u find this guy in an alley?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ my thoughts exactly... this guy got his license in a fucking cracker jack box... definitely get on caber because my guess is that your prolactin is completely fucked...
 
Thanks all, particularly Judo Tom.

No, the plan is not to stay on hrt for life. Actually, I had achieved much of my mass-building goals prior to the deca; the deca was just to see if I could go beyond.

Because the results with deca were less than I expected, and because I do feel "big enough", my focus now is on leaning out; fine tuning definition and detail.

As for changing doctors, are there ones you recommend?
 
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