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Progress Pics - Last 5 months

coolcolj

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Here are some comparison pics from the last 5 months.

Time between each pic is about 2-2.5 months.

Pic 1 - 180lbs Waist 32.5inches
Pic 2 - 192lbs Waist 34 inches
Pic 3 - 192lbs Waist 33-32.75 inches

So I may have added 4-5lbs of musle while losing the same mount of fat

I'm also 5'9" and natural
I'm not training for bodybuilding, but poses are used to help guage where the muscle went :)
Still way to fat, but getting there

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Abs flexed in 3rd pic
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jeremys said:
nice progress! how much have your lifts gone up?

from the first to last pics - just about doubled!

Rows went from 115x6 to 230lbsx6
Full Squat went from 95x5 to 245x5
Deadlift went from 205lbs to 405+ ( I maybe able to do 500lbs now)
incline dumbell B.P from 55lbsx6 to 90-95lbs x6 (not sure, I haven't done them since I hit 90lbs - switch to bench press)
 
Tarhell just remeber that the way I train is aimed more at strength, speed and power. So the ratio of muscle gain to strength is stacked in favour of strength :)
 
You can definately see the improvement in your waist and BF%. Great job!!

When ya goin' for that 500lbs dead?? Make sure you get a vid of that one. Couple weeks, I'll be goin' for 435.:D


Joker
 
looking good man!

have you thought about another hypertrophy cycle to increase your leverage for more strength? you are periodizing right? never mind...you probably got that covered.

bad nate....leave work at work!!!
 
I alternate between hypertrophy, then strength and then power phases.

I'll be going back into some hypertrophy next week :)
 
nice!! the traps are looking nicely developed. awesome man.
gains are great!!!!

cant wait to see you flying when you cut your fat down a little so you can see your abs nicely. you will be killling it on the court!!!!
 
Wow.. AWSOME progess for 5 months man!

I remember when I first joined the board.. about 3 months or so ago.. and saw your first set of progress pics.. your making tremendous progress Coocolj
 
awesome muscle gain in 5 months, youve really transformed between 1 and 2......you never train to failure right?????i thought about doing the same. but im a "bodybuilder" though. would u suggest not training to failure for a bodybuilder. like hit a muscle 2 or 3 times a week without goin to failure. once again great gains. you look like youve added over 20 pounds or so of muscle from the first and last pics, maybe more
 
CoolColJ said:


from the first to last pics - just about doubled!

Rows went from 115x6 to 230lbsx6
Full Squat went from 95x5 to 245x5
Deadlift went from 205lbs to 405+ ( I maybe able to do 500lbs now)
incline dumbell B.P from 55lbsx6 to 90-95lbs x6 (not sure, I haven't done them since I hit 90lbs - switch to bench press)

Those jumps in 5 months are AMAZING, excellent job. Excellent.
My deads are coming up in a similar way, as I add 20lbs. every workout and always complete them. Other stuff, not as fast but good. Once again, excellent job.
 
CoolColJ said:


from the first to last pics - just about doubled!

Rows went from 115x6 to 230lbsx6
Full Squat went from 95x5 to 245x5
Deadlift went from 205lbs to 405+ ( I maybe able to do 500lbs now)
incline dumbell B.P from 55lbsx6 to 90-95lbs x6 (not sure, I haven't done them since I hit 90lbs - switch to bench press)
AWESOME
 
CCJ,
I've gotta be honest bro. When you first came on here and showed your first pics, I was thinking "who the hell is this guy to be tossing out advice so much?" Then I payed attention to your posts and noticed you did know your shit.

Now, its very clear that you can also apply your knowledge. Very impressive for a 5 month period. Big difference overall, but great progress with your delts, lats and traps.

Good job man

Also, you're going to have some BIG goddamn wheels.
 
lol i felt the same way thaibox. ccj seems to know more than most people on this board when it comes to training. most people including my self lol mainly give out advice just by there experience but he seems to have alot of knowledge about the body and diffrent styles and many other things
 
Your delts are definitely coming a long too... I can notice serious delt size increase in every picture... obviously along with what everybody else has said...
Keep up the good work....
By the way... I wouldn't mind hearing more about your hypertrophy/strength/power cycles..... You should make a post outlining your training from top to bottom... I'm sure it would benefit a TON of people here!
Thanks
 
awesome progress pics. you can see that you have added muscle and lost fat, just about everywhere on your body. keep up the good work. also, it is good that you posted the numbers as far as the amount of weight you were lifting, then to now. are you taking any supplements? if so, what?
 
Firstly I wanna thank everyone for your comments. Makes me feel like I've done something right for a change :)


nclifter6feet6 said:
awesome muscle gain in 5 months, youve really transformed between 1 and 2......you never train to failure right?????i thought about doing the same. but im a "bodybuilder" though. would u suggest not training to failure for a bodybuilder. like hit a muscle 2 or 3 times a week without goin to failure. once again great gains. you look like youve added over 20 pounds or so of muscle from the first and last pics, maybe more

Well I used to train to failure - which is where I was in the first pic. Between Pic one and two, I changed completely and trained trying never to go to failure on purpose. I also started training faster in terms of rep speed.
It made a huge difference, because I could train more often and not get into overtraining. I think it works well for anyone. If I can gain mass on it, why can't a bodybuilder get the same results? . Frequency and volume over the course of a week still give the most mass gain IMO. The body becomes its function. Give the msucle a reason to get bigger. If you sit on your ass all day long, your gonna shrink. On the other hand if a muscle gets constant stimulation every few days, its gonna have no choice but to grow.

Like everyone has said my traps, back and shoulders grew the most. Guess which muscles get hit the most frequently? Yep the same 3 :) They get hit on my back day, lifting things, when I do olympic lifts several times a week etc


Thaibox said:
CCJ,
I've gotta be honest bro. When you first came on here and showed your first pics, I was thinking "who the hell is this guy to be tossing out advice so much?" Then I payed attention to your posts and noticed you did know your shit.

Now, its very clear that you can also apply your knowledge. Very impressive for a 5 month period. Big difference overall, but great progress with your delts, lats and traps.

Also, you're going to have some BIG goddamn wheels.

Thanks - I know I haven't been training that long, but I really do have the overall feel for this stuff and the neural recruitment of someone more advanced. Hard to put into words, let just say I'm not like most people who train in gyms :)

Not sure if i want huge legs :) I've been keeping my reps really low to minimise non-functional hypertrophy. If I so much as squat above 5 reps, the suckers just blow right up easy! Pretty high ratio in white fibers.

DrBones said:
[BBy the way... I wouldn't mind hearing more about your hypertrophy/strength/power cycles..... You should make a post outlining your training from top to bottom... I'm sure it would benefit a TON of people here!
Thanks [/B]

Well I have a basic framework that I more or less stick with and just change every now and then. The difference between the cycles is mainly to do with % of 1RM, volume of sets, speed of the reps and sometimes choice of exercises. I still train somewhat instinctively in a sense depending on how I feel at the gym, but there is still an overall direction. And so far Ive been taking 2 week layoffs to soften the body up every 9-12 weeks depending on how I feel.

I'll post a new reply to this thread once I get it sorted. I think I outlined my basic split in my previous progress pic thread. See if I can find it. But really I'm not doing anything really special. In some ways the way I train has some parallels to what they use at Westside in that I use some of the same research to base my training on, but that's where the similarities end :)

the People's Champ said:
also, it is good that you posted the numbers as far as the amount of weight you were lifting, then to now. are you taking any supplements? if so, what?

Supplements - pretty basic stuff I've been taking since I started.

One serving of whey+vit C powder and water on waking up plus breakfast. Multi-vitamin

2xFish oil capsules at every meal. There is definietly something positive in these to help you stay lean or get leaner. Helps your strength too IMO.

whey+vit C powder and water before training.
whey+vit C powder + Fast Carb powder mixture+ water after training.

And at last meal I add some calcium complex tablets.

That's it. he Whey and carb powder has 6 grams of glutamine in them each, per serve.


Lifts - well its hard to say exactly on some of them - but I'll give it a shot. I didn't do some exercises all the way through

Full Squat - I pretty much started with just a bar and around the time of the first pic or just after I was using about 95lbs for 5 reps. This was not to failure but pretty heavy for me back then.
95x5 to 245x5

Incline Dumbell B.P - 55x6 to 90x6 - I stopped doing em a month ago.
70 degree bent over rows - 115x6 to 230x6
Dumbell Decline tricep extensions - 25x6 to 50x5
Dumbell curl - 25x6 to 50x4
Chins - BWx3 (on bar) to +30x6 (on power rack)
Deadlift 1RM about 205 to 405+ (yet to retest a new max yet - soon)
Romanian Deadlift - 115x6 to 205x6

That's about the exercises I did all the way through I think
 
CoolColJ said:
2xFish oil capsules at every meal. There is definietly something positive in these to help you stay lean or get leaner. Helps your strength too IMO.

Is this stuff expensive? And is it easily attainable, online (cheap), or at a local store? I feel like such a moron for asking this.
 
it's pretty cheap. i just ordered a batch online from supplementdirect.com. i got 4 jars full of fish oil softgels (100 caps per jar) for $22 shipped.
 
Thaibox said:

Hey, fuck you. You're getting no sympathy from me:)

Well you take the bad with the good :)
They're the main reason why I can jump and move pretty quickly.
 
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CCJ, Great improvements! You have gained the respect of many on this board including myself. You found what works for you and DID IT. I`ve been reading your posts all along and sensed your excitement about your ability to find what works. EXCELLENT JOB. Very efficient.
 
You look nothing like your avatar!! :)

Is the sun broke down under? I know you guys have an ozone problem but DAMN!!! :)

Your bodyfat looks as though it has gone down a bit... making your muscle look tighter. Just from what I've seen, your back seems to be your greatest improvement... along with some cosmetic fat loss. Your arms don't look as big... but large arms ... who needs em? :) They just get in the way.

Yeah, I know... I want large arms. :)

C-ditty
 
Citruscide said:
You look nothing like your avatar!! :)

Is the sun broke down under? I know you guys have an ozone problem but DAMN!!! :)

Your bodyfat looks as though it has gone down a bit... making your muscle look tighter. Just from what I've seen, your back seems to be your greatest improvement... along with some cosmetic fat loss. Your arms don't look as big... but large arms ... who needs em? :) They just get in the way.

Yeah, I know... I want large arms. :)

C-ditty

Well my arms started behind the 8 ball and my calves are still bigger than them. But they are catching up since calves just don't grow as fast :)
I don't really train my arms that much, I just toss in a couple of sets here and then. I get bored training em :)

I'm gonna try not training em at all for the next 2 months and see what happens. Me thinks they will still grow
 
skaman607 said:
hey what's your vertical at? and are you wearing pants on the first pic?

Dunno, never measured it - but its pretty high.

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No I'm not wearing pants, but I am wearing underwear :D
 
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gonelifting said:
CCJ, Great improvements! You have gained the respect of many on this board including myself. You found what works for you and DID IT. I`ve been reading your posts all along and sensed your excitement about your ability to find what works. EXCELLENT JOB. Very efficient.

Sniff that brought a tear to my eye :bawling:


Thanks :beer:
 
Ok I'm gonna outline how I mostly train - this is not set in stone. Things change a bit from time to time. But so far I've trained like this over the last 5 months.

For one I don't do any isolation exercises, except for arms. Everything is compound. And I think the Arm training is a waste of time I feel, I'm gonna drop them, if none of my other muscles require isolation exercises to grow, then why should my arms need em?

Basicly I start a training cycle by taking 2 weeks off to soften the body. When you come back from that 2 weeks, your body will respond very quickly, liek a bgeineer does.

To break back slowly into the weights and to gain some mass and prepare the body for strength gains later I utilise HST principles. Basicly I work the whole body every 2nd day using a few basic compound moves 2-3 sets each ( I find 3 sets works better)and only 6 reps. This is done for 3 weeks. The idea is to start light and then add weight at every session until by the end of the 3 weeks your back up to your working poundages. So you will need to calculate what starting weight and increments to use. I normally sometimes start with higher reps and slower rep speed when the weight are lighter and begin to drop the reps and speed up as the weights approach my current PRs with 5-6 reps. Also Rest periods ae shorter with the lighter weights and then gradually get longer by the end of the 3 weeks.

You will find by the end of the 3 weeks your body will be close to overtraining - that is the idea. You may or may not be stronger, but you will be bigger. This is called Concentrated loading.

Then when I switch to the strength phase afterwards, your body begins to do a delayed supercompenstation from the lower volume and high intensity. This is a good way to do things alternate 3 week blocks of Accumlation (high volume low intensity) and Intensification (Low volume high intensity). Also in strength training intensity refers to % of 1RM, which seems to be different from the term as used in BB'ing.

In this 3 week Strength training phase, I will split my body up into a typical Poliquin style split.

Day1 - Chest and Back
Day2- Olympic Lifts, Legs and Abs
Day3- Rest
Day4- Olympic lifts, Shoulders and Arms
Day5- Rest

But you can split the parts however you like. At the moment I'm running a different split to accomodate BBall and a few weeks ago sprinting.

The Strength Phase- basicly consist of me doing a 2-3 sets of 3-6 reps. And then 1 to 2 lighter 50-60% of 1RM speed sets. )Plus a set of paused reps. You pause at the bottom of the move for 3-4 ses and then fire it up. Removes the stretch reflex and builds starting strength in the belly of the muscle.
I don't do a lot sets overall. Every rep is pushed as hard as I can move the weight on the concentric - CAT training. You still practise good form and brake the weight at the end of the motion to avoid injury. Though if you have bands you can shove the weight hard all the way through. Pushing weights hard means your maximising muscle tension. wether the weight is at 80-90% or 50-60% of 1RM, you apply the max force your muscle can create every rep. If you push the weight slowly like most BB'ers do, you are only recruiting and applying just enough force to move the weight.

Believe me training like this is a lot harder than it looks. People think moving weights fast makes it easier, just try it, its not if you attempt to push as hard as if your sprinting down the track.

Also you should not go to failure on purpose, otherwise your recovery will be prolonged.

Since the split I used never falls within weekly limits. I base everything on microcycles - ie when you complete one full split, you have done one microcycle.
You ramp the volume up over the first 3 microcycles(MC).
Well after you have done 3 microcycles - on the 4th one you Deload, which means you cut the volume to allow your body to rest and supercompenstate a bit. I remove the speed and paused sets, and just do 2-3 straight heavy sets.

Lately I've been playing around with wave loading as well. So far only on the overhead presses and upright rows.

Then I switch to the Power phase. This means differnet things depending on the bodyparts. For legs, I add in things like box jumps, jump squats etc. The idea is to up the speed emphasis.
For everything else I start to wind up the band usage and band tension. I only got these recently though.
Plus I do contrast training.
This is one heavy set of 3-5 reps. 3 mins rest then one power set at 50-60% of 1RM (better with bands) moved as fast I can up and down like a piston. Then 3 mins rest and back to heavy and so on. I do 2-3 of these cycles.
On some exercises instead of the lighter speed set, I use jumps and plyos type moves. Ie I might do a set of glute ham raises, rest 1.5 mins and then do some box jumps.

Again I ramp up over 3 Microcyles and deload on the 4th. I take a few days off test my 1RM Deadlift and then take my 2 week layoff and start again.
This is how I have beeen training so far. But I may change it up in this current training cycle since I'm always experimenting and learning stuff. I'm gonna try some cluster training - this fits in more with the strength side of things.
 
Amen to that brotha, nothing makes you grow like compound moves. I grew a lot my first year off the 5x5 routine light medium heavy principle. i also didn't do a single isolation exercise and i grew all around everywhere. however my bi's definitely grew faster once i added some isolation exercises to them. Good work bro. keep it up. your doing great all in which you deserve a pat on the back.

Scaggs
 
Thanks Scaggs

Well I'm thinking power rack chins (compund curl) and towel chins (compound hammer curl) hit the biceps hard enough as is.

And triceps get plenty from presses, normal bench and close grip bench as is. Maybe dips - haven't done those in a long time.
 
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CoolColJ said:

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No I'm not wearing pants, but I am wearing underwear :D

well first off, I can't see the pic:bawling: anyway, I was just a little curious as to why the bottoms and top of some of the pictures were blacked out
 
skaman607 said:


well first off, I can't see the pic:bawling: anyway, I was just a little curious as to why the bottoms and top of some of the pictures were blacked out

Well keep trying pic will show sooner or laster, webspace must be busy

Not all the photos are the same size that is why there are black areas.
 
Excellent progress!

That was a great post outlining how you train. Your training is done really intelligently, and a lot of people can learn from it. I know I can :)

CoolColJ said:
Basicly I start a training cycle by taking 2 weeks off to soften the body. When you come back from that 2 weeks, your body will respond very quickly, liek a bgeineer does.

I understand the logic, but I couldn't do it myself. I had to take a week off when I had a cold and it killed me mentally. Physically, its probably exactly what I needed. I'm sure I over-trained in the week prior to getting sick...

Is two weeks really enough to increase your body's initial responsiveness? Obviously its not going to mirror the magnitude of what a beginner can do, and I understand the parallel in logic, but two weeks is a decent amount of time off. Basically, do the long term gains outweigh the negatives of being out of training for that long?

CoolColJ said:

Every rep is pushed as hard as I can move the weight on the concentric - CAT training. You still practise good form and brake the weight at the end of the motion to avoid injury.

Could you explain how you "brake the weight at the end of the motion"?

Cheers!
 
Rivaldo said:
Excellent progress!

That was a great post outlining how you train. Your training is done really intelligently, and a lot of people can learn from it. I know I can :)

Is two weeks really enough to increase your body's initial responsiveness? Obviously its not going to mirror the magnitude of what a beginner can do, and I understand the parallel in logic, but two weeks is a decent amount of time off. Basically, do the long term gains outweigh the negatives of being out of training for that long?


Could you explain how you "brake the weight at the end of the motion"?

Cheers!

Thanks

Well it does takes guts to take 2 weeks off. And when you return everything will feel heavy! But its just a golgi tendon inhibition. That's why you start light and start to ramp back up. And the time off will alow injuries to heal and motivation to return. You stay active though. Go play a sport or whatever.

Well your body will soften up enough to allow a generous amount of DOMS to return :)
It basicly makes the body let its defences down. So even lighter weights will make you gain again, and then the progressive rise of loads will continue this on. Let me put it this way. When get to a certain strength level, progressive loading won't work anymore. But when you take the 2 weeks off and do the 3 week concentrated loading, it will work. So it obviously does something.

This only lasts for about 8-9 weeks though, so that's when I usually terminate the training cycle and take my 2 week layoff and start again. Your body will let you know. Well so far after 2 such cycles. I do not stop gaining. I keep breaking PRs, and going up in strength and size. While just about everyone in my gym is plateaued from what I can see. I've been there for 7 months now and no one looks any different!!

By "Braking" I mean you stop accelerating the weight before you reach the lockout point. It takes practise to judge this. In some exercises you use your antagonist to do this- ie when I do dumbell inclines my back muscles do the braking - so much so they get pumped :)
On other exercises you basicly just reduce your pushing force and gravity does the job - squats come to mind.
Some exercises don't need "Braking" - ie barbell rows - you just pull the bar hard into your stomach.


I recall talking to some guy who saw me around the time I took my first pics. Then I bumped into him a month ago. He couldn't believe how much size I had gained. He thought I was on roids ;)
Its pretty noticeable in clothes too - a girl came up to me at a party recently and asked me "You've been working out, haven't you? " :)
 
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CoolColJ said:
2xFish oil capsules at every meal. There is definietly something positive in these to help you stay lean or get leaner. Helps your strength too IMO.

Would Olive oil work too?
 
Well if I played Bball more often without my shirt on I would be nicely tanned :D
If you look closely you can see my neck and forearms are more tanned than the rest of m upper body :)

Well Oly lifters don't bench so I guess I'm not one of those guys :spit:
 
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Awesome results CoolColJ! Your ever evolving routine you described was a very interesting read. Keep up with that and those nice avatars too :)
 
cool colj

great progress, what diet did you follow, i am trying to lose 10 pounds in 4 months and 5%body fat and am looking for a diet that is not too extreme
 
jaymis said:
great progress, what diet did you follow, i am trying to lose 10 pounds in 4 months and 5%body fat and am looking for a diet that is not too extreme

Woah this thread is old :)

I didn't "diet"
I just ate 6 meals a day, about mainteniance levels.

The thing that made me lose fat was the once a week sprints and agility drills - about 45mins from start to finsh including warmup and post stretching
 
Your progress is great, but to be honest out of concern for your safety, you're sacraficing proper form and will hurt yourself, and sooner rather than later.

That deadlift video you recently showed us? You talked about blowing the 455. Yeah you did, I'm surprised you aren't seeing a physician right about now.

But your form on the 365 wasn't good either man! I'm not trying to bust your chops but your "warmup" was terrible form as well. And now you're going to get 500 soon?

You need to work on getting IMPECCABLE form, especially in an excersize like the deadlift, and add weight SLOWLY, while maintaining PERFECT form. I add 2-5 lbs each week on my dead personally.
 
Pics back up - just refresh

Debaser my deadlift form is more a result of all the olympic style lifts I do since that's pretty much how do them, although the start position is different. I have only deadlifted 5 weeks in total for the time I have been training.

I will most probably go sumo, since there is less interference with my cleans and snatches form.
 
One question (actually, I have about 100 as I'm trying to decipher your routine, but I'll stick to this): What Olympic lifts do you do on those two days?

And yeah, you're jacked and I'm envious :p
 
Madd Hatter said:
One question (actually, I have about 100 as I'm trying to decipher your routine, but I'll stick to this): What Olympic lifts do you do on those two days?

And yeah, you're jacked and I'm envious :p

Haha thanks - that's the first time anyone has called me "jacked"!
Those last pics were taken in November 192lbs, I'm around 200lbs now, so a little bigger, maybe fatter though. I'll have new pics comparo pics up one day.

Well I don't train quite the same way as back then, in terms of splits, but still similar in other ways. I prefer to have a days rest between each session now. And tend to train more wholebody as opposed to splitting up parts.


Well as far as oly lifts go I do so many variations its not funny!
You have the two main types power clean and power snatch - but I no longer do the wide grip power snatch - too risky on the cuffs. I just do snatches with the same grip width as my cleans. Then I'll do variations like from the hang, high hang, from blocks etc. I don't do specific ones on certain days anymore, but I tend to do snatches on squat day - more speed less weight.
 
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