Primobolan Depot and DBol

[Peter Gunz]

i searched the site(yes people do use the search) and found what i want for my next cycle....

primo depot 300 mgs a week for weeks 2-10 &
Dbol 20 mgs a day for weeks 1-5
and clomid at end of course

DO I NEED LIQUIDEX OR ARIMEDRIX WITH 20MGS. OF DBOL?

ANY ADVICE, OPINIONS?

 

[deify]

my experience with dbol is that expecially w/ a low dose like 20 mgs. you don't notice anything while on except maybe a little water retention... However, I get the rebound effect of it once I go off like acne and sore nips... My advice would be to have some armidex or nolvadex on hand in case of need and maybe an additional antiestrogen (like proviron or a little armidex) along with the clomid. If you can, I would use this like this:

week 1: dbol 25 mgs/day
week 2: dbol 25 mgs/day
week 2: dbol 20mgs/day
week 3: dbol 20 mgs/day
week 4: dbol 15mgs/day
week 5: dbol 10mgs/day (taken first thing in the morning)

I have found dbol to be very effective like this, but I'm sure you would find similar results with a standard 20mgs/day. Hope this helps,

-deify

 

[Peter Gunz]

really, very good response., u are helping alot., thanks., if anyone else can help gunz, give a holla., i know i ain't use 500mgs. of test,. or fina., but this still works for me in real life., so help a brother out., peace

 

[Peter Gunz]

bump., for some answers., at least one or two mods answer., peace

 

[PatBateman]

first of all, what number cycle is this for you. Primo at 300mg you won't see much. That is actually a nice cycle, if it is your 3rd and on cycle, I would do dbol@40mg a day for weeks 1-5(don't taper) and primo at 600-800mg. Hey, yeah that's expensive, but if you want to use primo right and effectively you gotta pony up or switch your ideas.

 

[gilly6993]

If you're going to use primo like this you need at least 500 mg a week.....and as Pat said, bump the dbol to 40.....

 

[kidkoala]

Primo and Dbol.....Arnold's favorite!!!!

 

[Peter Gunz]

i don't wanna use more then 400mgs of primo a week and 25mg of dbol a day., i am on my third cycle and i had great gains on just 250mgs of test every 5th day., so i think anything over 400mgs of primo is too much., anyone every run primo at 200-400 range., and have great results., i am not a competitve BB., and i am interesting in knowing at what doses of Dbol make liquidex nessecary in this stack ., thanks for everyones opionions., i would love to hear more from everyone., peace

 

[PatBateman]

i don't wanna use more then 400mgs of primo a week and 25mg of dbol a day., i am on my third cycle and i had great gains on just 250mgs of test every 5th day., so i think anything over 400mgs of primo is too much., anyone every run primo at 200-400 range., and have great results., i am not a competitve BB., and i am interesting in knowing at what doses of Dbol make liquidex nessecary in this stack ., thanks for everyones opionions., i would love to hear more from everyone., peace

fine be stubborn, that's ok. Bro, 200-300mg is used primarily as a cruising dose, to help simply keep gains you've already made; the hpta is supressed, but not to the point if say you were on deca/test. So let's break this down, the dbol at 25mg/ed for weeks 1-5 will give you great strength and some good size, but it won't all be completely keepable. The primo will help you build solid, lean gains and also help solidify your dbol gains. If you use 200mg of primo, when you stop the dbol it will almost be like you are coming off. You will simply be trying to maintain the gains of your first 5 weeks. Now, if you do want to gain past that part, and I'm assuming you do, you will have to use a higher dose of primo. At the very least, do what Gilly suggests at 500mg wk, but I like the dose much better at 600mg/wk for a minimum(sheer minimum of 8 weeks). The question really is do you want to throw your money away, because at 200mg that is what you are doing. And no, I wasn't assuming you are a comp. bb, if you were you certainly wouldn't have picked this cycle.

 

[Veto]

i was kinda wondering about somthing along those lines. now i know the whole total supression/partial suppression thing is still up in the air but bear w/ me on this. What if someone was to use similar doses specified (300 mg primo, 10-15 mg d-bol) but w/ the d-bol in a morning only dosage pattern for an extended period of time, like 15-20 weeks. Maybe use 10 or so mg of nolvadex a day just to keep LH up more than it would be otherwise. Will there be suppression? Yes. Will it be total suppression? I don't really think so. And when all is said and done recovery should be relatively rapid using a few recovery techniques (drop the primo 3 or 4 weeks before the d-bol, triple the dose of nolvadex or throw in some clomid, etc.). The gains should be gradual, mantainable, and pretty side-free. I ran this idea past Bill Roberts and he thought it would be ok, but then suggested that i use nandrosol instead as he feels the the results would be comparable making me wonder if he actually gave the idea a second thought before ending w/ a shameless plug. Any how i personally like the idea and may give it a try when i have the cash to do so, just thought id throw it out there for a few responces.

 

[Peter Gunz]

appreciate both views., i am looking into both an extended cycle and high doses of primo., but i always use real life experiences...and guys in the gym on only 200-300 a week of primo have made great gains in bench and squats, just not in mass ., and more posts???????????????????????????/

p.e.a.c.e

 

[PatBateman]

i was kinda wondering about somthing along those lines. now i know the whole total supression/partial suppression thing is still up in the air but bear w/ me on this. What if someone was to use similar doses specified (300 mg primo, 10-15 mg d-bol) but w/ the d-bol in a morning only dosage pattern for an extended period of time, like 15-20 weeks. Maybe use 10 or so mg of nolvadex a day just to keep LH up more than it would be otherwise. Will there be suppression? Yes. Will it be total suppression? I don't really think so. And when all is said and done recovery should be relatively rapid using a few recovery techniques (drop the primo 3 or 4 weeks before the d-bol, triple the dose of nolvadex or throw in some clomid, etc.). The gains should be gradual, mantainable, and pretty side-free. I ran this idea past Bill Roberts and he thought it would be ok, but then suggested that i use nandrosol instead as he feels the the results would be comparable making me wonder if he actually gave the idea a second thought before ending w/ a shameless plug. Any how i personally like the idea and may give it a try when i have the cash to do so, just thought id throw it out there for a few responces.

but what is the point of this? Is this a cycle or are you trying to bridge. I never really got the idea of the bridge, because no matter what, the hpta is still going to be shutdown, whether it's 300mg primo wk, or 15mg of dbol in the morning. If you are going to be hardcore and need to be constantly on(ie need to bridge) then use Doggcrap's suggestion of a cruising test dose@300-400mg wk.

 

[1911]

I have seen the per amp price of Primo drop significantly of late via Intl. sources but it still has limited bang-for-the-buck IMO. I would not choose it as a base for a cycle regardless of current objectives. It certainly has it's place, for example I used it on my first for two reasons 1. Solidify gains and 2. I wanted a mild anabolic to stack with test. If I were going to do the cycle you propose I would run Primo at 400 - 600 per week for 10 weeks min, but there are better moderate-cycle alternatives out there (such as a Dbol/EQ stack). Feels like your'e shooting Valvoline too, no big deal but it's thick shit.

Later,